Big Sam has edge over Arsenal and gets up Wenger's nose


The Master

By Boris Mellor
October 4 2009

"Chelsea were the only ones who used to come and battle it out with us," said Allardyce. "They always matched us up physically and then used their superior skill to beat us, whereas Arsenal tried to use their superior skill from the beginning and lost more times than they won"

   "We got close to beating Manchester United a couple of times but they always did us. But we always beat Liverpool, we always beat Arsenal." The Sun 23 September 2007.

Big Sam has Arsenal sussed; hence he has conceded 10 goals and scored two against Arsene Wenger's overseas fancy dans during his time at Blackburn.

But having been beaten 6-2 you won't catch Big Sam moaning about the referee; unlike the garlic crunching Wenger.

After the 6-2 defeat Big Sam said:

However, it was the decision not to point to the spot and send off defender Thomas Vermaelen for an apparent trip on David Dunn at the start of the second half, when Arsenal led 3-2, which incensed the Blackburn manager.

Bitter and twisted?

Allardyce stormed: "I don't want to detract from Arsenal but it was a blatant penalty.

"There is no doubt in my mind that the position of the referee was excellent. He just didn't, unfortunately, give the decision in our favour."

"In the big pressure pot that is this league, you have got to get the major decisions right otherwise you don't stay in this league too long, not as a manager or a player, so as a referee you have got to be judged the same."

"That decision wasn't good enough for me today and it had a major effect on the course of this game."

Allardyce added: "I try not to say too much publicly and say it through the system, but unfortunately the system is not working.

"So I have to be heard and people may say it is bitter or twisted, but I know I am 100% right because I am very professional in what I do.

"I research everything and [referees boss] Keith Hackett knows I am right."

Allardyce felt if the decision had gone Blackburn's way, then the visitors could well have got something from the game.

He said: "At that particular stage you would see us getting a penalty, probably scoring it, them going down to 10 men - because it is a red card for stopping a goal-scoring opportunity - and the balance swings in our favour." Sun Online 04 October 2009

Dear ol Sam, you can't blame him, he has a right to dream - "get something from the game ha ha ha oh gawd", I am splitting my sides, you are a caution Mr Allardyce.

Brilliant Arsenal Vintage Wenger

Sam your team were not on the same planet as this Arsenal performance, yet alone in the same league. You had the feeling that whatever total Blackburn scored the Gunners would score even more.

Rovers went ahead twice, but were incapable of holding a lead. Once Arsenal got to 2-2 the writing was on the wall, and at 3-2 the obituaries were being written.

This was vintage Wenger ball, movement - box to box action. One Cesc pass to Walcott - goal! Cesc to Arshavin, 50 yard run beat several defenders, back to Cesc, Fabregas to van Persie - goal. It was fantasy league football, especially if you have Cesc in your fantasy team. Four assists and a goal - still worried about him?

It was fantasy football alright, eight goals not one scored by the same player. Nearly a new record but that was achieved over at Tottenham with a 5-4 victory.

Missing Adebayor?

Games involving Arsenal have been averaging nearly 5 goals a match, this game reached 5 goals before the end of the first half. This team has now scored 24 goals to ten against; it has scored more than Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea. True it has conceded slightly more than the top two but has conceded less than Liverpool, indeed the team has the best goal difference in the league and is back in 4th with a game in hand.

Why would the Gunners need a greedy lazy lump who was offside for half the match? What would he add exactly?

Thierry Henry coaches from the boxes

Henry got a great reception from the crowd ten minutes before the game started, and his name was sung out in the second half. Perhaps the players were trying to impress him. Would he make a good coach? Well he wouldn't put up with losing half as sanguinely as Arsene does. Anyhow the Arsenal legend certainly saw some wonderful goals, many of which he would have been proud of, actually he would have been proud of every one. Let's hope he turns up more often.

Every goal came from exquisite passing and was even more exquisitely hit home. It was teamwork and forward passing that destroyed Trotters Mark 2.

Meanwhile Cesc was the puppet master - pulling every string and orchestrating the whole onslaught. The rapier is mightier than the hob nail boot. Superior skill does work.

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Big Sam has edge over Arsenal and gets up Wenger's nose
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009:10:16:19:08:44 by Padre Pio.

celine dion
04/10/2009 20:23
Sending off? SENDING OFF? you fat cow faced pillock. There were about 5 people round him. Know when you were beaten by the better team, you northern cretin.

Padre Pio
04/10/2009 20:24
imagine if Wenger moaned like that?

AJ The Gunner
04/10/2009 20:50
i used to get upset with big sam's rantings but after this, i now officially consider him DAMN RIGHT STUPID

well could be the team wanted to impress henry.mmmmmmm perhaps he can be a great coach for the gunners but being such a perfectionist i really doubt that. all i can say is Henry should visit more often since he can inspire the boys to produce such a wonderful attacking football with great goals.

i guess cesc has silenced some critiques who questioned him game after game. that was top class from a classy player.his passes are to die for.

I'm Glad RVP has found his scoring touch.

As for Vermaelen; this guy is a dream buy and an excellent goal scorer.will he over take terry and vidic's goal scoring record.at this rate he will.

Can We Now Trust The Process 🤔🤷🏿‍♀️ or Should We Still Remain Cautious 🙇🏿‍♀️

eduardo
04/10/2009 22:33
so what is fat sams record v arsenal overall, as sky said today that he had only ever won 3 or maybe it was 4 times in total and that includes cup games


also anyone else laugh when fat sam would not look at wenger after the game when shaking hands with him, plus it looked like his fat head was about to explode


by the way spuds have never won in the epl at bolton yet you never hear about it being a bogey team for them


am I wrong to thing that replays show vermaelen actually got slight touch of the ball on the dunn incident, it rolled across his boot

Padre Pio
04/10/2009 22:47
Not sure, but it wouldnt have been red he wasnt last player.
the boget team thing is absolute nonsense.
Plus we defeated him when he was Newcastle manager.
i am not sure if he ever beat us at Arsenal either.

eduardo
04/10/2009 22:56
fat sam never won a game at highbury or the emirates

Padre Pio
04/10/2009 23:01
so much for the big record

eduardo
04/10/2009 23:04
fat sam was the master of creating a media myth, it even got him an interview for the england job

H.C
05/10/2009 12:19
Should Dunn have even been on the pitch after jumping into/at/on Don Vito with the ball nowhere near?

John Gregory - that well known sage and managerial success - thought that Dunn had every right to - wait for it - 'let the keeper know he was there.'

God bless Arsene Wenger, is really all I can say, again. One day, we will be telling our grandchildren about the golden age of AFC.

Redheat
05/10/2009 13:13
Had to chuckle when we all started singing 'Sit down you Walrus!' Sam needs to lay off the burgers....

Merlion96
05/10/2009 16:27
(Sm6)
F**K! It gave the walrus a bad name.

Philly the kid
05/10/2009 16:50
Quote:
Redheat
Had to chuckle when we all started singing 'Sit down you Walrus!' Sam needs to lay off the burgers....
aah! @#$%& him. I've half a mind to rip my macdonald tokens out my paper and send them to him. I'd laugh my @#$%& off if he had a coronary. Fat cu.nt.

Padre Pio
05/10/2009 18:23
RvP got sent off for a lesser barge on a keeper. Amazed ref didnt see it

Lewis_198four
08/10/2009 23:31
It's no coincidence that Sam and Phil Brown are mates, two peas in a pod! Rotten ones at that.

litmus
09/10/2009 09:46
Both of them (Phil Brown and Fat Sam) are jokes.

Lewis_198four
10/10/2009 17:43
Phil Brown is more of a joke than Fat Sammy, he is like a crxp David Brent and David Brent was meant to be shxt! so to be a crxp version of shxt in my eyes makes you a joke! Sam was once a serious option for the England job! Unbelievable to think of him now, now we have seen him 'progress' in his career. His type of Player? El Hadj Diouf. Thank you for the introduction Sam. You have single handedly brought down the Premier league's reputation a notch with that one transfer. Hodgson at Fulham is a good manager, he has learned the tricks of the trade, through experience. Continental football, International football, He has a shrewd eye and has been working with foreign players and coaches before Wenger influenced the the Premier league bosses. Sam and Brown are immitators, they have no imagination, instead of sitting put why not go and manage somewhere else? learn a different language, manage different players, learn new approaches towards the game, different styles, fans and chairmen. Then come back take a team like Bolton or Blackburn and go win the league. Only then will you be able to hold a conversation or an educated opinion with Arsene Wenger. Before anyone gets offended that I sort of compared Arsenal with Bolton and Blackburn I will say that in Ninety Five we finished Twelfth in Ninety Six we Finished Fith and playing in a UEFA cup spot, so we were in a sort of Blackburn/Bolton state. Wenger comes along in Six months we finish Third then we win the league, DOUBLE DOUBLE!!



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Vela-tiousness
12/10/2009 22:29
Though it was a penalty and could have been interpreted as a goal scoring opportunity, I would have been surprised to see the ref send off Vermaelen although I suppose he could be justified in doing so. That isn't the point though, Blackburn had at best 3 attempts on goal and we carved them wide open with every attack.

Fat sam has an inferior complex against Chelsea and Man Utd which you can see from his comments. This is why I hate losing to teams like his- ever- under any circumstances- it makes him think that he's worked you out and it gives him and others belief in their set pieces brand of total football to think it is possible to beat us with it. Fools like him that propagate this belief, that we can't beat chelsea or man utd but we can beat arsenal is the problem with football in this country. Teams line up against man utd and chelsea beaten in the mind, before a ball is even kicked, I wish teams did the same against us.

Padre Pio
12/10/2009 23:31
Jeff Winter didnt think it was a sending off offence - too many defenders around the ball.
These days big Sams teams are beat by us before they turn up.
Dont believe the hype - they are no bogey team. They wont be cocky after 6-1 thrashing and 4-0 last season

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