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Boring, Boring Newcastle
Flying High?
By Since66
November 23 2008
Phil Scolari was very generous in his description after yesterday's drab 0-0 draw with the 'Barcodes,' saying that "Newcastle were magnicent by playing for a point."
"They came for a point and they got a point."
"We came for a win, but didn't get it."
For me the point is lost, let's face it Newcastle were actually awful & to be fair & 100% ultra critical Chelsea were 'awful' too.
Joe Kinnear admitted that he had asked Michael Owen to play deeper than he normally would and the stall was set for Chelsea to dominate the possession, have most of the play and the 'Barcodes' kept their fingers crossed that Kinnear's plan would not go pear shaped. Ashley Cole stooped into a Bossie cross and the header spun agonisingly past the post. Super Frank saw his close-range header well saved by Shay Given and Ballack could have and should have won the game minutes from time, but he shot wide from close-in. With Utd and Liverpool both drawing and Woolwich losing, two MORE points dropped at home, was a bad day at the office. I am not the type to criticise players but Malouda is really starting to irritate me and Kalou is starting to get on my nerves and Scolari 'needs to channel his energies' and be brave and bold. Malouda has skill, pace and the techincal ability. What is lacking is his final ball into the area. He either underhits his final pass or overhits it. There is no middle ground with this man. He is so wasteful and over the last few games, Malouda has had more chances to score in any game, than a team gets in ninety minutes overall. As for Kalou. All I saw was him come on to replace Malouda and I saw him leave the pitch after the final whistle. Scolari needs to start using 'the kids' that he has on the bench. Scott Sinclair spent the best part of twenty minutes warming up during the second-half and he would have been the ideal replacement for Malouda. Scott has the energy, pace, skill and he can cross a ball and I am sure he would have troubled Newcastle more than Kalou did in the time he was on the pitch. I have a solution to the transfer window problem. Get rid of Malouda and Kalou and use the money to buy replacements. Simple I know, but will it happen? 
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Discussion started by 50 Years Over 100 Years , 23/11/2008 18:08
boring newcastle, he he never heard that one before
this is what Wiseys cockney mafia have done to the toon,
he was there yesterday, our diretor of football is persona non grata at St. James park though.
Chelsea had enough chances to massacre the 'bar codes' but the defending was magnificent...last ditch too often but hey a blue day for the 'champions league' champions' (ha ha ) just what tehy deserve for being so complacent, Asley hole needs to learn some humility, what a @#$%& he is
this is what Wiseys cockney mafia have done to the toon,
he was there yesterday, our diretor of football is persona non grata at St. James park though.
Chelsea had enough chances to massacre the 'bar codes' but the defending was magnificent...last ditch too often but hey a blue day for the 'champions league' champions' (ha ha ) just what tehy deserve for being so complacent, Asley hole needs to learn some humility, what a @#$%& he is
Why are you bothered if Newcastle are boring? If we are boring then it gave you boat loads of chances to win the game and if you can't break boring Newcastle down or take your chance then I guess thats chelsea's own problem.
Petr Cech could have served coffee all afternoon!!!
As for your insult to Ashley Cole - don't you mean William Gallas
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As for your insult to Ashley Cole - don't you mean William Gallas
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As I said CHillzy and read it again
We were awful too - 'cos we couldn't break your lot down and we had no plan B
(Why can't people read properly)
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@#$%& hell thats rich coming from a chelseas fan,or did you enjoy mourhinos football,its just like moaning about spurs parking the bus when everyone knows thats not Tottenhams way never has been,even though that was mourhinhos forte,really embarrasing calling other teams boring,i would change it quick because you look like an idiot mate.
Newcastle were ripped off last season with an offside winner, so fairs fair this season. It was a triumph of tactics yesterday and Colo looks like he's finally settling into the English game.
The sooner Abramovich gets bored the better. Lets remember his money is actually a loan to Chelsea. A debt of £500M appearing over night the second he loses interest...? I wouldn't like that!
But then I suppose you'll all go and support someone else... Man City are rich now... What about them? After all... How many Chelsea fans were Chelsea fans before the summer of 2003?
The sooner Abramovich gets bored the better. Lets remember his money is actually a loan to Chelsea. A debt of £500M appearing over night the second he loses interest...? I wouldn't like that!
But then I suppose you'll all go and support someone else... Man City are rich now... What about them? After all... How many Chelsea fans were Chelsea fans before the summer of 2003?
I really can´t understand some of the Newcastle fans above in denial that they were extremely defensive and comparing us to "Mourinho´s Chelsea". If you really believe that you must get down to the opticians pronto. I think Newcastle got the ball into our half 2-3 times max in the 2nd half.
Kinnear had his tactics - and they worked. Makes for boring football? Well yes it does but no doubt he watched a video of the Liverpool game before he came down and felt he could get something out of the match with the same tactics.
Many teams will be coming to the Bridge with the idea of parking the bus but they also run a great risk of getting thrashed if they concede a goal as they then have to change and open up if they want to get anything out of the game.
It´s difficult to apply a great deal of criticism to Chelsea as we did all we could. For me the only negatives were Malouda´s bizarre crossing and not bringing Ballack on earlier.
As for selling Kalou or Malouda I´m convinced one of those will go in January (probably Kalou) ... and yes..we do need that quality wide player in January although I´ve no idea who is available and not CL tied.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Kinnear had his tactics - and they worked. Makes for boring football? Well yes it does but no doubt he watched a video of the Liverpool game before he came down and felt he could get something out of the match with the same tactics.
Many teams will be coming to the Bridge with the idea of parking the bus but they also run a great risk of getting thrashed if they concede a goal as they then have to change and open up if they want to get anything out of the game.
It´s difficult to apply a great deal of criticism to Chelsea as we did all we could. For me the only negatives were Malouda´s bizarre crossing and not bringing Ballack on earlier.
As for selling Kalou or Malouda I´m convinced one of those will go in January (probably Kalou) ... and yes..we do need that quality wide player in January although I´ve no idea who is available and not CL tied.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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this is what Wiseys cockney mafia have done to the toon,
he was there yesterday, our diretor of football is persona non grata at St. James park though.
Asley hole needs to learn some humility, what a @#$%& he is
What Wisey has done to the toon? Yeah sure - you were superb for years before he came onto the scene weren´t you?!!!
He´s responsible for finding cheap, talent - home or abroad - not running the team so I don´t see why he´s to blame for Keegan leaving. Keegan must have had the set up explained to him before taking the job on surely? If he didn´t- then Mike Ashley is to blame not Wise. In any case, Kinnear´s not doing a bad job is he with Wise there?
As for your Ashley Cole comment that just puts you in with all the other plebian, media fed masses.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
this is funny
should of drove the bus threw chelsea defence like super burnleywave after wave of attack on cheks goal,,,it was awesome
you teesing the toon now guys
should of drove the bus threw chelsea defence like super burnley
wave after wave of attack on cheks goal,,,it was awesome
you teesing the toon now guys
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@#$%& hell thats rich coming from a chelseas fan,or did you enjoy mourhinos football,its just like moaning about spurs parking the bus when everyone knows thats not Tottenhams way never has been,even though that was mourhinhos forte,really embarrasing calling other teams boring,i would change it quick because you look like an idiot mate.
You are the one that looks like a complete plank!
When Mourinho accused Spurs of parking the bus it´s because THEY DID? Did you actually see that game?!!! I bet you didn´t?!!!!
Sure, it´s not Spurs´way but the fact is they changed their tactics (just like you did yesterday). More and more teams will do so - some will get away with it - and some will get a pasting if they go behind and have to attack.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
I felt sorry for the Newcastle fans they came all that way and were served that garbage by their team.How could Kinnear say that was their best performance,i think owen passed the halfway line once and they had one shot in the whole match and that was off target,and that was their best performance of the season,well if you are gonna serve that football up for the rest of the season then god help you fans.
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It was a triumph of tactics yesterday and Colo looks like he's finally settling into the English game.
The sooner Abramovich gets bored the better. Lets remember his money is actually a loan to Chelsea. A debt of £500M appearing over night the second he loses interest...? I wouldn't like that!
But then I suppose you'll all go and support someone else... Man City are rich now... What about them? After all... How many Chelsea fans were Chelsea fans before the summer of 2003?
Well at least there´s ONE who recognises and isn´t ashamed (and why should he be?) of his teams tactics.
As for the money/Abramvoich angle you might want to just pause and THINK. The INVESTMENT that Roman is making in Chelsea will no doubt be converted into equity once the club starts making a profit. He paid 140m for Chelsea - how much do you think its worth now or will be worth in say, 2 seasons time?
As for you accusation of us being fickle that just shows you up for a typical toon fan who NEVER stops harping and bleating on about what great support you have got (it is great at times - but you are very much sing when you are winning aren´t you? I mean, when times are hard you do tend to leave St James deserted).
I went to my first match in the 70´s ans Since 66 went ...(Well, lets see if your brain can engage and work out when he first went?!!). Carefree has been going for donkey´s as well.
Chelsea have a much higher average attendance than Newcastle in a 103 years of history. We are 5th in the table now and were 5th before Abramovich came along.
I know this doesn´t fit into the way you NEED to see the world but unfortunately thats the way it is. so do yourself a favour, LEARN a little bit about football history before you start trotting out the typical Sky, modern media, football propaganda that you have been conditioned with. (I bet you are in your 20´s?)
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:11:23:21:39:12 by dixon9.
What a load of rubbish - you couldnt find the net and couldnt get the win.
Your crowd is the quietest I have ever heard - you only cheer when your winning and have nowt to say when you dont.
Just admit the fact that you coudnt win against a bottom of the league team.
Your still gonna win the prem so shut up!
Your crowd is the quietest I have ever heard - you only cheer when your winning and have nowt to say when you dont.
Just admit the fact that you coudnt win against a bottom of the league team.
Your still gonna win the prem so shut up!
Nobody is arguing that we couldn´t hit the net.
Nobody is arguing that we couldnt beat a bottom of the league side.
What we are arguing about is the dispute by some of your lot that Newcastle parked the bus.
Even the match report on YOUR board backs us up!
LINK TO TYNE TALK
And all this "You lot are fickle glory hunting southerners whilst are passionate northerners supping our bitter" rollocks is just fffing untrue, blinkered and BORING.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:11:23:23:02:56 by dixon9.
Nobody is arguing that we couldnt beat a bottom of the league side.
What we are arguing about is the dispute by some of your lot that Newcastle parked the bus.
Even the match report on YOUR board backs us up!
LINK TO TYNE TALK
And all this "You lot are fickle glory hunting southerners whilst are passionate northerners supping our bitter" rollocks is just fffing untrue, blinkered and BORING.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:11:23:23:02:56 by dixon9.
i agree its not den wises fault he was doing his job and has done a decent job and yes kk had the set up explained to him but he was lied to kk was told that wise was thier to recommend players and that kk had the final say if you dont believe me up look for them on ed harrisons newcastle blogs archives
of course we aren't disputing the fact that we played defensive football and got what we went there for, an away point agaisnt an expensively assembled chelsea team.
we are discontented at the obviously biased report by labelling our team as "awful", because we played to the gameplan and we did exactly what we went to the bridge to do, to frustrate your 200m pound team and make sure you don't score. if we have done exactly that, how are we awful? on the other hand, if you say that chelsea were awful, well i can't stop you on that
we are discontented at the obviously biased report by labelling our team as "awful", because we played to the gameplan and we did exactly what we went to the bridge to do, to frustrate your 200m pound team and make sure you don't score. if we have done exactly that, how are we awful? on the other hand, if you say that chelsea were awful, well i can't stop you on that
Chelsea lose 2 points and Newcastle gain 1 point, that's why Scolari disappointed. what's make it hard to understand ? Compare between 2 team now, No doubt that if Scolari is Newcastle manager he'll do the same. Or Newcastle should entertain Chelsea by let them destroy us as they want ?
All i am saying is how can Kinnear say that that performance was the best you have played so far this season.Owen,Duff,Martins,Butt,we`r playing deeper than their own defenders and at times they we`r standing on the goal line.Anybody can just turn up and stand in the goal mouth for 90 mins and get a point,is that the football that you guys want to see when you travel 400 miles to see a football match.At least have a go and try to earn your points buy trying to score,but to play for a nil nil is pants.
Everybody's on about Newcastle coming to the bridge with the intention of parking the bus. But is that was the intention then why did we have 2 strikers on the pitch for the entire match?
The intention was clearly to be solid in defence but also to try and get at the Chelski defense. Chelski were good enough to limit us to only a couple of forrays into the blue half. I only wish Jonas's pull back for Oba had been a bit better so we could have taken all three points!
The intention was clearly to be solid in defence but also to try and get at the Chelski defense. Chelski were good enough to limit us to only a couple of forrays into the blue half. I only wish Jonas's pull back for Oba had been a bit better so we could have taken all three points!
You got what you deserved. Cockneys have very short memories. Can you remember last year when you scored a goal that was at least 3 yards offside. Never has a draw pleased me so much. Well done lads. Let's build on it.
What goal are you on about that was 3 yards offside? Malouda at St James?
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
Quote:seetow
we are discontented at the obviously biased report by labelling our team as "awful", because we played to the gameplan and we did exactly what we went to the bridge to do, to frustrate your 200m pound team and make sure you don't score.
Please show how our line-up cost 200m???
Also, work out the value on yours - there probably isn´t THAT much difference.
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
as a toon fan, i expected us to get murderd by you lot.... i did not expect to score( youv only let in 4 all season). so for me che , ars , man u , and liverpool are just far to good for us to mix with and if we tried it would have been 5-0 just like sunderland...
take it as a compliment.
one thing i noticed you only had three good platers on the dday the 2 coles and bosingwe or what ever his name is...
deco malouda anelka were@#$%&on the day
regards catchy
take it as a compliment.
one thing i noticed you only had three good platers on the dday the 2 coles and bosingwe or what ever his name is...
deco malouda anelka were@#$%&on the day
regards catchy
I neva saw Duffa play so defensive as he did. Right back, left back and he is an attacking player.
I don't think he crossed the halfway line all game.
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as a toon fan, i expected us to get murderd by you lot.... i did not expect to score( youv only let in 4 all season). so for me che , ars , man u , and liverpool are just far to good for us to mix with and if we tried it would have been 5-0 just like sunderland...
take it as a compliment.
one thing i noticed you only had three good platers on the dday the 2 coles and bosingwe or what ever his name is...
deco malouda anelka were@#$%&on the day
regards catchy
think you will find burnley scored 6 past them,,,you are just boring
we went there to entertain and have a go,we reaped the rewards
enjoy your point,it may be the last you get
im enjoying this game(Sm140)
no FC you scored 1
the penalty shoot-out was a separate competition
the game ended as a draw 1-1
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the game ended as a draw 1-1
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no FC you scored 1
the penalty shoot-out was a separate competition
the game ended as a draw 1-1
going to enjoy this more then,,,
so we drew one and beat u in the other
ya plank i was sticking up 4 u
next
Well Arsenal are there for the taking now Claret! (or amybe their kids are better than the first team?). And you are at home.
What do you reckon?
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
What do you reckon?
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"It is born out of hypocrisy and fundamental insecurity. There have been two kids on the block for the past 12 years. Suddenly, there is a third and that one is threatening to be more successful than the others and they don’t like it." P Kenyon.
dixon9
perhaps 200m was a little pushing it, but let's revise it to 150mil. let's take a look at the figures.
petr cech 9mil
bosingwa 16.3mil
terry free
ivanovic 9mil
ashley cole 5mil + gallas (transfer at least worth 15mil)
mikel 16mil
lampard 11mil
joe cole 6.6mil
malouda 13.5mil
deco 8mil
anelka 15mil
first team total: 119.4mil (all figures in pounds)
subs bench:
ballack free
sinclair free
bridge 7mil
ferreira 13.2mil
kalou undisclosed (approximated at 8mil)
cudicini 160k
mineiro loan
subs total: 28.8mil (all figures in pounds)
total in line up: 148.2mil pounds.
on the other hand, for the toon, our line up was
given 1.5mil
beye 2mil
bassong 1.5mil
coloccini 10mil
enrique 6mil
jonas 2mil
guthrie 1mil
butt 2.5mil
duff 5mil
oba 10mil
owen 16mil (DAMN HIM)
first team total: 57.5mil
subs bench:
harper free
cacapa free
n'zogbia 250k
lua lua free
carroll free
ameobi free (no one would want him anyway)
edgar free
subs total: 250k
total in line up: 57.8mil (to 1 decimal for simplicity)
SO DIXON9, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT OUR TEAM IS AN EXPENSIVELY ASSEMBLED SQUAD AND YOURS ISN'T? GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE REPLYING HASTILY.
sorry mate, had to shove those facts into your head before you start getting all worked up about dropping two points.
perhaps 200m was a little pushing it, but let's revise it to 150mil. let's take a look at the figures.
petr cech 9mil
bosingwa 16.3mil
terry free
ivanovic 9mil
ashley cole 5mil + gallas (transfer at least worth 15mil)
mikel 16mil
lampard 11mil
joe cole 6.6mil
malouda 13.5mil
deco 8mil
anelka 15mil
first team total: 119.4mil (all figures in pounds)
subs bench:
ballack free
sinclair free
bridge 7mil
ferreira 13.2mil
kalou undisclosed (approximated at 8mil)
cudicini 160k
mineiro loan
subs total: 28.8mil (all figures in pounds)
total in line up: 148.2mil pounds.
on the other hand, for the toon, our line up was
given 1.5mil
beye 2mil
bassong 1.5mil
coloccini 10mil
enrique 6mil
jonas 2mil
guthrie 1mil
butt 2.5mil
duff 5mil
oba 10mil
owen 16mil (DAMN HIM)
first team total: 57.5mil
subs bench:
harper free
cacapa free
n'zogbia 250k
lua lua free
carroll free
ameobi free (no one would want him anyway)
edgar free
subs total: 250k
total in line up: 57.8mil (to 1 decimal for simplicity)
SO DIXON9, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT OUR TEAM IS AN EXPENSIVELY ASSEMBLED SQUAD AND YOURS ISN'T? GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE REPLYING HASTILY.
sorry mate, had to shove those facts into your head before you start getting all worked up about dropping two points.
wow,,,,dixon arsenal are there for taking and hopefully we will do our job,,,,kids defo better than 1st team at mo
as for very droll,,u asked for it 66 as i was doing my duty again thenproper love this uniform
toon army,you make me laugh,all ways hard done by whole world owes u a favour,,,burnley put 4,5mill on the pitch against 170plus chelsea,we played them got lucky at times and got a reward,what we did not do is sit back playing drab football watching a bunch of over rated over payed so called stars building a brickwall of a defence,,,
take a note from a famous cockney,,,
he who dares wins
next
as for very droll,,u asked for it 66 as i was doing my duty again then
proper love this uniform
toon army,you make me laugh,all ways hard done by whole world owes u a favour,,,burnley put 4,5mill on the pitch against 170plus chelsea,we played them got lucky at times and got a reward,what we did not do is sit back playing drab football watching a bunch of over rated over payed so called stars building a brickwall of a defence,,,
take a note from a famous cockney,,,
he who dares wins
next
Amen FC
They still don't recognise the fact that I WROTE Chelsea were awful too and most of our chances we wasted weren't down to Newcastle's defending!!!!!!!!!
The same applies to the Burnley cup-tie - at least Burnley attacked and Burnley's goal - proof in the pudding.
As I have already said - Neva seen Duffa defend so much
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They still don't recognise the fact that I WROTE Chelsea were awful too and most of our chances we wasted weren't down to Newcastle's defending!!!!!!!!!
The same applies to the Burnley cup-tie - at least Burnley attacked and Burnley's goal - proof in the pudding.
As I have already said - Neva seen Duffa defend so much
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chelsea were great against burnley,even gave us a quid back towards a new player
told u i dint like em gggggrrrrrrrrrrrr
told u i dint like em gggggrrrrrrrrrrrr
r yeah...... but we got a few more pounds to go towards the players meals at Cobham
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