Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Sunderland v Newcastle Utd


By Tyne-Talk
October 26 2013

Newcastle United travel to the Stadium of Light for tomorrow’s lunchtime kick off. Newcastle go into the game having won three, drawn one and lost two of their last six games in all competitions. Sunderland on the other hand host on the back of three consecutive defeats, five defeats from their last six games and just one win which came in the Third Round of the Capital One Cup. 

Sunderland fans may say they have been unlucky with a bad run of games so far this season, (they lost to Arsenal, and West Brom before sacking manager Di Canio and then lost to Liverpool and Manchester United before signing Poyet) but their most recent defeat against Swansea last weekend clearly highlighted to new manager Gus Poyet how big a challenge his has at the club.

Newcastle are likely to be without captain Fabricio Coloccini, who has recently been back to Argentina to receive treatment on a groin injury. Colo returned to training this week but whilst manager Alan Pardew has said he has an outside chance of playing, it looks unlikely.

Steven Taylor (hamstring) is back in contention having recovered in time to play some part of the game, but its too soon for Massadio Haidara (knee) who is due back next weekend.

If Steven Taylor is not fit to start, Newcastle could name Paul Dummett in the starting eleven, which would be a dream come true for the 22 year old who is from Newcastle and has come through the Academy.

Pardew however has confirmed that if fit, Taylor will start as he needs experience in the back four. He said;

“He will get the nod over Paul because you need experience in the derby but if Steven or Willo have a knock I will turn to Paul no problem. He has proved against the toughest of opposition that he can handle it.”

Newcastle are without Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa who got himself sent off against Liverpool last weekend.

Guy Poyet’s only injury concern was Wes Brown (calf) and he is due to undergo a late fitness test which means he could feature in his first game since January 2012.

Former manager Di Canio secured a 3-0 victory at St James’ Park back in April and now on home turf Poyet hopes to achieve the same feat. He said;

"This is a game to win, so everything is set up to win this football game. Then we need to wait and see the result, but we are focused completely on winning this football game “

…and once again Lee Cattermole is claiming; "I'm more mature now, 100%," under the new manager. He also said something similar when Martin O’Neil was manager back in September 2012 and 10 days later he got sent off against MK Dons.

 

Fact: Of 22 games between Newcastle and Sunderland, Newcastle have won 9, drawn 9 and lost 4.

Fact: Sunderland are the only team since the 1999/2000 season to have picked up just 1 point in their first 8 games and only the 4th team ever to perform so poorly.

Fact: Newcastle have scored 2 goals in each of their last 5 League games.

 

Sunderland

 

Newcastle   Utd

 

8

Played

8

1

Points

11

0

Won

3

1

Drawn

3

7

Lost

2

5

Goals   Scored

11

20

Goals Conceded

14

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Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Sunderland v Newcastle Utd
Discussion started by TyneTalk (IP Logged), 26/10/2013 14:04
TyneTalk
TyneTalk
26/10/2013 14:04
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mentalman
mentalman
27/10/2013 12:41
todays team;

Krul
Debuchy Willo Dummet Santon
Sissoko Tiote(c) Cabaye
Gouff HBA Remy

Subs; Elliot, Haidara, Anita, Obertan, Shola, Sammy, Cisse

So much for Haidara not being fit enough and Steven Taylor being fit enough to start.

We are in trouble if willo or dummet have to go off, think i would have stuck Good on the bench.

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annie
27/10/2013 12:53
C'mon Dummet make a name for yourself and Remy get at least 3 goals, you're in my Fantasy Football team.

3-1 to us. C'mon lads make us proud. (Sm128)

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annie
27/10/2013 12:55
The main thing in Dummett's favour is he's a local lad and really knows the importance of beating Sunderland.

Dorrys
Dorrys
27/10/2013 13:18
Which TV channel guys ? I usualy watch it at Sportlemon but TV is just TV.. PS: I don't have Sky Sports :/ Thanks

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annie
27/10/2013 13:24
Welcome to the site Dorrys smiling smiley

This link is good you will probably need to wait till match starts before you go on it.

[firstrowuk1.eu]

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 13:35
Oh FFS (Sm19)

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annie
27/10/2013 13:35
FFS It's not even been 5 mins

1-0 to Sunderland

Right that's the 1 now for Newcastle's 3

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 13:36
1-0 @#$%& already, 5 minutes. (Sm31)

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annie
27/10/2013 13:36
I share your pain CND

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 13:43
Looking lost out there at the moment.

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annie
27/10/2013 13:49
The senior players need to step up.

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:01
I'd love to see a set piece goal from us for a change

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annie
27/10/2013 14:03
I'd like to see any goal from us CND

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:04
Too true

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:05
I'd settle for a shot on goal at the moment.

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annie
27/10/2013 14:13
I wouldn't mind if Ben Arfa was substituted

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:32
Nope Sissoko for Cisse.

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:32
When does it become Shola time? 75th minute?

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annie
27/10/2013 14:34
85th I reckon.

C'mon Cisse, remember you're a goal scorer. (Sm128)

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 14:46
Open the floodgates 1-1 (Sm60)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013:10:27:14:47:05 by CNDShearerFan16.

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annie
27/10/2013 14:46
Debuchy 1-1 (Sm152)

About bloooody time.

C'mon Newcastle you can do it (Sm42)

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annie
27/10/2013 15:03
Shola on for remy

C'mon wor Shola (Sm152)

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annie
27/10/2013 15:13
OH no! 2 -1 Sunderland sad smiley

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annie
27/10/2013 15:16
After almost 90 minutes I think Dummett needs to go back to coming on from the bench.

mentalman
mentalman
27/10/2013 15:31
rubbish result even though we were the better team.

Is persistent fouling no longer an offence?

Tiote had a good game

mentalman
mentalman
27/10/2013 15:32
1 more thing how did Gouffran manage to stay on the pitch so long, he's been playing really well recently but didn't even try today

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annie
27/10/2013 15:37
I agree mental I wish they'd taken him off and put Anita on

davenufc
davenufc
27/10/2013 15:39
While I am not even going to pretend to be happy.

I am a lot happier than the last derby debacle.

We at least were the better side, this time (not that, that means much mind)

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annie
27/10/2013 15:41
I'm gutted, I really thought we'd win.sad smiley

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CNDShearerFan16
27/10/2013 15:46
Ugh (Sm117)

Nick-Kielce-Poland
Nick-Kielce-Poland
27/10/2013 15:57
Oh well, it's only football.

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annie
27/10/2013 16:07
I'd hang my head with shame Nick if I'd written that.

Nick-Kielce-Poland
Nick-Kielce-Poland
27/10/2013 16:11
Quote:
annie
I'd hang my head with shame Nick if I'd written that.
Oh.

mentalman
mentalman
27/10/2013 16:21
shows he's not a true geordie

Nick-Kielce-Poland
Nick-Kielce-Poland
27/10/2013 16:23
Quote:
mentalman
shows he's not a true geordie
Oh.

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Ronaldo is a diving FAG
27/10/2013 16:51
Pathetic today.
Really pathetic.

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MissC
27/10/2013 20:14
I caught the game in a pub but wasn't able to watch it as such. Seemed a 50/50 split of both fans where I was which was worrying.

Gutted is all I can say.

mentalman
mentalman
27/10/2013 23:02
The most disappointing thing about the game for me was how a couple of our players didn't seem interested. Gouffran in particular didn't even try and pretend to be bothered, i've thought over the last few matches he was starting to play really well, the last match against liverpool he was just behind tiote as our best player, today he didn't do anything, he didn't defend he didn't close down and he didn't pose any threat going forward. His best performances have come after he was dropped for a couple of games, is he going to turn out to be one of these players who need a run in the team then dropped to the bench for a couple to keep them grounded and working rather than letting them become complacent?

Tiote again put in a solid performance, lets hope this is him getting back to his best.

Pardew again showed that he was able to change things tactically and improve the way we were playing.

Things would have probably been a lot different had we not been playing with our 4th choice cb and i was going to call Dummett our 5th choice cb but he's not he's a young inexperienced fullback who has been thrown in to plug a hole.

Sunderland played a very intelligent game today and Lee Probert let them, everytime we tried to make a break there was a little tug or a little trip on the attacker just enough to break up the momentum and it worked, the ref was aware of this as he was giving free kicks for them, a few yellow cards would have stopped this and opened the game up more.

davenufc
davenufc
28/10/2013 10:07
I thought Cisse was dreadful, when he came on. Dont know what is up with that lads head at the moment but he needs to sort it out, fast.

I still think though apart from the opening 10 minutes we, were the better side.

If it had been me, I would of brought Shola on earlier and kept remy on although playing as a true number 9, and hope the two could of combined.

I though Tiote spent most of the game playing way to far back (although I guess this was a deliberate ploy to protect and inexperienced cb) it seemed to make the midfield disjointed.

If it had been anyone but Sunderland I think we could just class it as one of those days, but for those of us that live here and know sunderland fans, we will be hearing about this every bloody day until the next one comes along.

mentalman
mentalman
28/10/2013 17:39
He's definately lost his spark, im starting to question whether he is happy at the club with the whole wonga thing!

During the game yesterday we had nobody between willo and dummett to bring the ball out of defence, with tiote sitting far deeper than usual to protect the cb's, cabaye was left to come deep to get the ball off them. This meant that he was trying to start our attacks from our 18 yard line rather than 50/60 yards further up the pitch like in recent games.It was a similar scenario as last season when we struggled because we had lost Cabaye's effectiveness with him sitting so deep.

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