Megson Eyes Barton Deal

When's his Dabo trial? June 30th?

I cannot find a date anywhere.

So I dont know.

"But the Newcastle hierarchy, led by owner Mike Ashley, executive director Dennis Wise and vice-president Tony Jimenez, are not happy and could move to dismiss the player even before the case begins on June 30."

From Mail Online

Looks like we have a wait to find out his future

Yeah, everyone's waiting to see what happens-NUFC included. Personally I think his days in stripes are over but the outcome of the trial will affect his valuation, obviously.

If Bolton want him then they can bloody well have him

remember the woodgate bowyer trial? the first time this came to court the trial was unable to proceed, as the actions of the sunday mirror were deemed to have prevented a fair trial, as the jury were found to be aware of an article they published which depicted them as guilty.

[www.guardian.co.uk]

couldnt something similar happen if nufc act against barton, by cutting his wages or sacking him? he would be seen as being found guilty by the club, and that isnt the clubs decision to make at this time

newcastle would be crazy to speak out or act in any way, which is why i struggle to accept that any pay cut has yet been discussed. i hope they have planned for either result, but dont expect to know their plans untuil we all know the result

good points, exile. note well the lack of a citation of any official source...

I'm not so sure. He won't be able to sign a new contract with anybody from inside and he wont be released until after the next hearing anyway.

They have enough with a legitimate conviction and prison sentence to terminate the contract on those grounds as opposed to awaiting the verdict of the next one if thats the route they go down.

Realistically if the club want to keep him in order to sell him, but still terminate his contract as suggested previously, it cannot happen until he it out surely.

Would sacking him now not just be like when Chelsea sacked Mutu for taking drugs? And it's Mutu who now has to pay Chelsea so many millions because they couldn't recoup any fee and paid £16mil or so for him.

i read that about mutu, but i dont think that is cut and dried yet either. we'll see.

and mutu had been found guilty already, hadnt he, when he was sacked?

dodgy ground either way when the courts are involoved, as while footballs governers like to act like the masters of the universe, they are still bound by the law of the land.

presumably, barton is going to plead his innocence when his next court case comes around, so for him to accept any sanction placed on him by newcastle would seem unlikley. he cant - bearing in mind the public nature of all of this - expect a court to believe he is some reformed character and victim of media victimisation or whatever if he has so very recently accepted an UNPRECEDENTED pay cut for reasons related to another court case in which he was found guilty of criminal violence. and no player with a contract can have his terms adjusted without the players agreement.

forget what would seem to be justice, thats irrelevant, particularly when the circumstances relate to the highest profile industry in the country and the RICHEST UNION IN EUROPE (the PFA)!



none of it makes sense man!

the most important document is the contract barton signed last year. did it include special provision for action against barton if he was found guilty in the dabo case? was he bound by a special behaviour bond? these things are not yet known, when they are we will know how strong newcastle's hand is.

i'll repeat for anyone new to this site. i want barton outta here. period.

You're right about the contract, exile. If there wasn't a clause in there regarding this, NUFC's gonna take their medicine for this one. Hopefully it would be one more lesson about signing players to stupid contracts just to attract them.

What Carys says is right.
Any company can terminate the employment of someone who is imprisoned.

The fact that this sod wont meet Ashley half way and take a pay cut is down right insulting.
He always had an uphill struggle to win the respect of the fans but now he has well and truly blown it.

We should never have signed him in the first place.

Thanks very much Sam Allerdyce

yeah luke, he is a wrong'un, he deserves bad things, and will hopefully leave.

but

i'm not sure nufc want to sack him, and i'm particularly wary of any assertion that they actually could sack him if they wanted to. he isnt some low-paid office drone who got sent to prison for scrapping on a night off, he is both rich and famous, and unfortunately the legal system in this country is not completely the same for people like him. he wouldnt be a legal aid case, you can be sure of that. believe me, the pfa would come at any attempted sacking with the very best lawyers and all guns blazing, and at the very least it would extend the whole embarrassing situation well into next season.

i honestly dont think it would be as straight forward as you suggest if we tried to sack him (and sacking barton is what i said i would like to see, on these pages, the day he was found guilty)

i think the current stance at nufc is correct, gather all facts before we act.
who can know at this point whether the dabo trial will strengthen or weaken our hand?

and whilst it would be nice to wash our hands of him with a sacking, it wouldnt really punish him, would it? he'd sign similar terms elsewhere soon enough.

very difficult at this stage to know what to hope for

well he did get sent to prison for scrapping on a night off...