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Discussion started by Zint (IP Logged), 01 June, 2020 10:42
Zint
Zint
01 June, 2020 10:42
Let’s supporting playing the season out.

I’m aware that some clubs will argue the can’t afford to but that’s tough ditty. We can’t afford to be relegated but I don’t hear them understanding or supporting our position. We are a professional League with professional clubs. We shouldn’t concern ourselves with the interest of others because others aren’t concerned with our interests. Has any club in our division actually come out and clearly stated ‘Tranmere Rovers should not be relegated?’ They’ve stopped short of that.

If clubs like Rochdale and AFC Wimbledon can’t complete their fixtures it’s not our problem, and extremely convenient for them to argue this.

Be done with it, let’s settle this on a football pitch not in some virtual committee room.

Loyden1
Loyden1
01 June, 2020 10:55
A few weeks ago it didn't look positive zint but now 2leagues are starting L1 should also start .let's get it finished and have a bigger delay to start next season.and yes tough sh xx on anyone who don't want to play

coltran
coltran
01 June, 2020 11:57
I have always said that the season should be completed even if we wait until September when hopefully, spectators will be allowed. The remaining fixtures should be completed. Then a few weeks break to sort out the play-offs and the fixtures for 2020/21. Then play the 2020/21 season with fewer (say 36 matches) if necessary. All teams would play each other once either home and away. Then agreement reached for the fixtures for the 2nd half of the season so that no team plays all the top and bottom teams.

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Crazylegs Cranebird
01 June, 2020 12:38
And after all, having seen all these German teams on telly, I'd like to see my team Tranmere Rovers on telly as well - as would thousands of others.

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Doogie'sGhost
01 June, 2020 12:46
There is no way the EFL will prioritise playing out the season in L1 & 2 despite what they've said. It's just not affordable. And the timetable is driven by other leagues so I can't see that delaying it for L1 while other leagues are playing will work. We just don't operate in that type of vacuum.

If you want to get tough, forget legal action (unless they have clearly breached a law), forget EFL politics and votes. We're fighting a losing battle with these. We need to hit the EFL where it hurts,- in their pockets. Wage a campaign against every league sponsor, including shirt sponsors of every club. Boycott their products, wage social media campaigns against them. Every single ad campaign by every single sponsor should be bombarded by Rovers fans. Refuse to watch any football on ppv channels, boycott them. Bombard their social media, bombard the advertisers who are paying for these games. Get support from groups who are opposed to the commercialisation of the game and other fans who have a grievance - non league teams who have been denied promotions etc. Cancel your Sky subscription, cancel your BT Sport one and let them know why. Make an absolute nuisance of ourselves and hurt the bottom line of the league and its sponsors. That's the way to get tough and make them pay attention.

Aldo'smuzzy
Aldo'smuzzy
01 June, 2020 12:49
Quote:
Zint
Let’s supporting playing the season out.
I’m aware that some clubs will argue the can’t afford to but that’s tough ditty. We can’t afford to be relegated but I don’t hear them understanding or supporting our position. We are a professional League with professional clubs. We shouldn’t concern ourselves with the interest of others because others aren’t concerned with our interests. Has any club in our division actually come out and clearly stated ‘Tranmere Rovers should not be relegated?’ They’ve stopped short of that.

If clubs like Rochdale and AFC Wimbledon can’t complete their fixtures it’s not our problem, and extremely convenient for them to argue this.

Be done with it, let’s settle this on a football pitch not in some virtual committee room.

You're right, but the competition organisers, the EFL, are passing the responsibility for completing the competition over to the clubs and the majority in L1 probably won't wear it. I can't see a way out of that.

Incidentally Accrington's owner has pretty much said we shouldn't be relegated. He's also argued for promotion but no relegation, so I expect he'd have been a supporter of Palios' proposal. But he's also been very vocal in calling for the season to be curtailed, claiming playing meaningless games would jeopardise his club's future - while conveniently downplaying the fact that their games wouldn't be meaningless so long as they're still in the relegation mix.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2020 12:53 by Aldo'smuzzy.

Zint
Zint
01 June, 2020 13:00
I just think we have spent a couple of months looking after other people’s interest, now it’s time to put ourselves first.

Aldo'smuzzy
Aldo'smuzzy
01 June, 2020 13:15
Well yes, we've tried and failed to build consensus around our alternative proposal so, unless we have a final bite of the cherry by formally tabling something over the next 24 hours, we probably will have to fight a lone battle.

Mrs P indicated on Twitter last night that we're not giving up. Hopefully we'll soon find out a bit more what that looks like.

jal jal
jal jal
01 June, 2020 16:15
When does the Final decision on what has been decided one way or another come out so everyone knows where they stand , as it's dragged on for long enough now.

DevonExile
DevonExile
01 June, 2020 17:14
The situation is really complex and so much depends on the Premier League. it is reported that 10 clubs there want no relegation even if matches are completed.
I still fear a worst case scenarios which is that of playing out the season with little income and heavy outgoing and still finishing in a relegation position. In terms of our long term future that could be an existential threat.. I am all for pressing the case of no relegation but playing out the season could cripple clubs, including us

Prenton Pirate
Prenton Pirate
01 June, 2020 17:21
At the start of this fiasco, I wanted the season voided. The thought of Rovers playing and me not being able to watch was unthinkable.
Now though it looks like the only chance we have is to play then so be it. If clubs can't afford it or go bust then so be it, I have no sympathy for them.
To relegate/promote/let in play-offs any club is totally unfair so play to the conclusion.

DevonExile
DevonExile
01 June, 2020 18:19
BIG QUESTION?I If the fixtures had continued over 14 March and, as was quite likely, the stoppage had come with us now marginally edging Wimledon, just how many posters would now be advocating starting the season?
It is easy to point th finger at the position of other clubs and accuse them of self interest,
At,our level most clubs cannot afford to ignore the cost of playing without income. How can we possibly ever complain about the selfishness of premier leagues clubs if we argue a case that could put some clubs out of business.

I am all for arguing that there should be no relegation but I pushing other options we are at risk of being recklessly partisan

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Doogie'sGhost
01 June, 2020 20:46
Quote:
DevonExile
BIG QUESTION?I If the fixtures had continued over 14 March and, as was quite likely, the stoppage had come with us now marginally edging Wimledon, just how many posters would now be advocating starting the season?
It is easy to point th finger at the position of other clubs and accuse them of self interest,
At,our level most clubs cannot afford to ignore the cost of playing without income. How can we possibly ever complain about the selfishness of premier leagues clubs if we argue a case that could put some clubs out of business.

I am all for arguing that there should be no relegation but I pushing other options we are at risk of being recklessly partisan
A VERY fair point. I think Nicola was asked this very thing and hence the original proposal was no relegation. Personally I am not seeking that, I just want Rovers to be given a fair fighting chance to avoid relegation that is roughly equal to that we had at close of play. I have still heard no good reason why an expanded playoff system or even a relegation mini-league is not a viable option.

Zint
Zint
01 June, 2020 20:51
There really is no point in engaging with hypotheticals. We find ourselves in this situation now and have to resolve it to our advantage. In most things in life I am all for being objective, even handed and fair. Whatever happens will not be fair, in which case I want what ever gives us the strongest advantage.

kennyspint
kennyspint
01 June, 2020 23:19
I just want to sit in my seat in the Kop and watch Tranmere Rovers Football Club. I've done it in the old 4th Division (OK Main Stand) I've done it (OK in the Borough Road) in the 1st Division (now Championship) and I've done it in the Vanarama National League. I just want a conclusion so know I can watch TRFC play football next season whenever it starts.


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