Quote:misterecoli
it's really simple, if you do open your mouth just make sure it's not racist or homophobic. It's not exactly rocket science
Quote:mrGr33n13
Allsop won, twice.
He managed to wind you all up to where someone lost their head and he was able to make the club look bad.
And then he won again when everyone goes on a mental one for days afterward.
I believe the phrase the kids use is he's living in your head rent free.
You lot tried to banter with him, he won and has forgotten you. You lost and are fuming days later about how the world has gone to pot
Quote:Fiftyyearsarover
When I do go ,and always have ,sat in the main stand ,does that mean I am a posh git for paying the extra ,over the years there has been morons all over the stadium ,mistercoli has it about right ,if you don’t like gays ,blacks, gypsies ,.jews Martians . immigrant,Muslims etc .and that’s fine by me , there is no Law you have to like them .just don’t advertise the fact and you won’t end up in trouble ,when whoever whatever appear on tv you don’t like, shout at the tv in your own home ,sorry (whisper ) job done ,no getting carted off by the old bill with a coat over your head but for ordinary banter it’s sad people can’t take it anymore it’s always been a way of life ,people are going to be to scared to speak in case they disturb people’s sensibilities .l don’t know what was shouted but if it was not Racist or Homophobic it’s nothing he has not heard beforeand hears most days in mens environment,(best make that women’s to )just in case, sad world
Quote:gary anderson
Well seems like we are gonna live in a world where you have to say nothing do nothing and never comet as someone somewhere will be offended and upset .I wonder if we score at our next home match and clap and cheer and jump up and down will that be upsetting someone how long before shouting super white army is gonna offend oposing black players .cm on lads it's getting stupid I agree if you fight and use violence at a football match no place for that but shouting and getting your frustration out by using a few choice words is crazy I don't believe one person on here has not used a few swear words at a game it happens it's part of life very one on here had insulted someone at some time so let's not be holyer than thou .every supporter in every club has shouted abuse at refs in frustration players get abuse from fans ask our keeper he gets it but does he go crying to the ref no he just laughs it off and gets on with the game .so lads temper next time you say something the person next to you might not agree and be offended and have you arrested you could be anywhere not just a football match .so maybe we should take a good look at our self's we all swear we all get frustrated it happens .
Quote:misterecoli
it's really simple, if you do open your mouth just make sure it's not racist or homophobic. It's not exactly rocket science
Quote:KentexileQuote:mrGr33n13
Allsop won, twice.
He managed to wind you all up to where someone lost their head and he was able to make the club look bad.
And then he won again when everyone goes on a mental one for days afterward.
I believe the phrase the kids use is he's living in your head rent free.
You lot tried to banter with him, he won and has forgotten you. You lost and are fuming days later about how the world has gone to pot
Spot on, this. He's wound us up and won. And there's no point whining that Allsop was winding the fans up, Scotty does it all the time to opposition fans.
It doesn't matter whether you think it's right or wrong or if you think people who complain are "snowflakes", the rules are clear - homophobia, like racism, is not acceptable any more. It's not a matter of opinion it's the societal norms of the times we live in now, and the rules of today if you're at a football match. This whole episode makes us look like a bunch of Neanderthals (even if it's only one fan), and arguing the toss over it just makes us look worse not better.
Quote:gary anderson
Well at the end of the day allsop made gestures to tranmere fans behind his goal .that offended some fans. He got abuse back and did not like it .so all I say is if you don't like the reaction you get back don't give it out in the first place .and he should be held account for his actions as well and to be honest could not care if a player is gay black green or yellow pink or brown if you give out iwhat some might take as insulting gestures don't go sulking off when you get it back .and for the record I am not racist. nephew is gay and proud of him .and my wife comes to some games and hears all sorts of bad language and she just ignores it .
Quote:Fiftyyearsarover
Well it can only be homophobic if the goalkeeper is gay ,,if so ,someone must have picked up on it ,they don’t come out the closet / shed whatever as a norm .the plot thickens
Quote:He does go to games a few and he just laughs it off .see he is normal and accepts that people all over the world think different his boyfriend comes now and again and like my nephew could not care a toss .yet you are making such a big deal of it .as said could not give a toss if there keeper was gay the point is he unsighted a conflict and the F A should look at his actions as well .and that's nothing to do with his sexuslity race beliefs of faith .it's about him being a professional footballer getting involved with fans and cousins conflictAldo'smuzzyQuote:gary anderson
Well at the end of the day allsop made gestures to tranmere fans behind his goal .that offended some fans. He got abuse back and did not like it .so all I say is if you don't like the reaction you get back don't give it out in the first place .and he should be held account for his actions as well and to be honest could not care if a player is gay black green or yellow pink or
brown if you give out iwhat some might take as insulting gestures don't go sulking off when you get it back .and for the record I am not racist. nephew is gay and proud of him .and my wife comes to some games and hears all sorts of bad language and she just ignores it .
Can you not grasp the difference between dishing out a bit of stick and dishing out racist, homophobic or sexist abuse? And the difference in the effect it can have on people who hear it?
What would your nephew have thought if he'd been sat a few rows from the clown who's been arrested? Would you have shrugged it off and told him just to ignore it? Should the club just ignore it too? Do you think he'd want to come back to watch a game if he had to hear that every week?
Quote:Fiftyyearsarover
....mistercoli has it about right ,if you don’t like gays ,blacks, gypsies ,.jews Martians . immigrant,Muslims etc .and that’s fine by me , there is no Law you have to like them
Quote:mrGr33n13
i doubt he was unnerved in the slightest, he probably hasn't paid us a second thought.
he wanted to wind the fans up, and did so.
seems a few on here are so precious and easily offended that they cannot let it go.
Quote:You have your opinion but he was unnerved enough to complain and if he were to get booed then it might distract him enough to underperform which might help TRFC out.Winding up our fans also requires some degree of premeditation and again might be to our advantagemrGr33n13
i doubt he was unnerved in the slightest, he probably hasn't paid us a second thought.
he wanted to wind the fans up, and did so.
seems a few on here are so precious and easily offended that they cannot let it go.