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Dover are 2nd in the table. We are 15th. We can't score. They want one of our strikers. It's a bit confusing, isn't it?
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Also noticed that Sutton Utd have loaned out Moses Emmanuel to Maidenhead Utd for 2 months.. Bit surprised by that coz as far as I understand he has done ok at Sutton since signing from Dover.
Quote:Spot on, Why send him there, Why is he good enough for them but not good enough for uscorpac
Can you imagine - for example - Man.United loaning a striker to say Liverpool.
What is going on? You never loan a player to a rival club!
The mind bogles.
Quote:Aldo'smuzzy
If we're shipping him out on loan then it was always going to be to another NL club - no league club would take him
Quote:Old RoverQuote:Spot on, Why send him there, Why is he good enough for them but not good enough for uscorpac
Can you imagine - for example - Man.United loaning a striker to say Liverpool.
What is going on? You never loan a player to a rival club!
The mind bogles.
Quote:Maybe for the same reason we loaned Stockton to a League 2 club even tho he apparently wasn't good enough for us and why Drysdlale who can't even get on the bench for us was training with Championship clubs!!Old RoverQuote:Spot on, Why send him there, Why is he good enough for them but not good enough for uscorpac
Can you imagine - for example - Man.United loaning a striker to say Liverpool.
What is going on? You never loan a player to a rival club!
The mind bogles.
Quote:Matt34Quote:Aldo'smuzzy
If we're shipping him out on loan then it was always going to be to another NL club - no league club would take him
Despite what he has no managed to do at Tranmere I feel to see how you can know what any managers of football league clubs do or don't think of him.
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To add some stats to show why I think this is a good move.
He has played 403 minutes for us this season and scored 0 goals and had 0 assists. For the most part as many of us would agree in those 403 minutes he has not looked very good at all.
Last season he scored 17 in 42 matches. BUT 4 of those were penalties. If they had another penalty taker that would be 13 in 42 games so not exactly prolific. Another important point is he had 0 assists last season.
Norwood had 16 in 43 matches and started less games last season than Alabi but chipped in with 8 assists.
To me it looked like a speculative signing that has gone wrong as there seems to be little potential to eak out of Alabi.
There weren’t sufficient pre season games for him to be evaluated and I believe now we aren’t wasting a spot in the team for him we can start to kick on.
Quote:So why did we sign him. Two strikers brought in by MM are now out on loan.Kenny_CronsQuote:DCTRFC
To add some stats to show why I think this is a good move.
He has played 403 minutes for us this season and scored 0 goals and had 0 assists. For the most part as many of us would agree in those 403 minutes he has not looked very good at all.
Last season he scored 17 in 42 matches. BUT 4 of those were penalties. If they had another penalty taker that would be 13 in 42 games so not exactly prolific. Another important point is he had 0 assists last season.
Norwood had 16 in 43 matches and started less games last season than Alabi but chipped in with 8 assists.
To me it looked like a speculative signing that has gone wrong as there seems to be little potential to eak out of Alabi.
There weren’t sufficient pre season games for him to be evaluated and I believe now we aren’t wasting a spot in the team for him we can start to kick on.
Superb use of stats to prove what we have all seen with our own eyes.
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If we're shipping him out on loan then it was always going to be to another NL club - no league club would take him
Despite what he has no managed to do at Tranmere I feel to see how you can know what any managers of football league clubs do or don't think of him.
Just my opinion, subsequently borne out by fact.
Quote:Matt34Quote:Aldo'smuzzyQuote:Matt34Quote:Aldo'smuzzy
If we're shipping him out on loan then it was always going to be to another NL club - no league club would take him
Despite what he has no managed to do at Tranmere I feel to see how you can know what any managers of football league clubs do or don't think of him.
Just my opinion, subsequently borne out by fact.
That would be fact if there was at least one league club looking at his services as well and Alabi chose the NL as he felt it would suit him better.
The situation lends itself to your theory certainly, but not knowing if any league options were available as well, I still don't see your assertion as becoming a proven fact.
Sorry.
Quote:Matt34Quote:Aldo'smuzzyQuote:Matt34Quote:Aldo'smuzzy
If we're shipping him out on loan then it was always going to be to another NL club - no league club would take him
Despite what he has no managed to do at Tranmere I feel to see how you can know what any managers of football league clubs do or don't think of him.
Just my opinion, subsequently borne out by fact.
That would be fact if there was at least one league club looking at his services as well and Alabi chose the NL as he felt it would suit him better.
The situation lends itself to your theory certainly, but not knowing if any league options were available as well, I still don't see your assertion as becoming a proven fact.
Sorry.
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]Today James was quick, committed, skilful, won headers, held the ball up and put himself about very well. WE don't have a forward with those abilities and, if he is allowed to play inside instead of isolated on the wing, will score loads of goals for us. On a tough day for everyone, he was worth the entrance money alone.
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]Today James was quick, committed, skilful, won headers, held the ball up and put himself about very well. WE don't have a forward with those abilities and, if he is allowed to play inside instead of isolated on the wing, will score loads of goals for us. On a tough day for everyone, he was worth the entrance money alone.
Seems like he did have a good game, good luck to the lad.
Quote:mini_andyQuote:rossb07Quote:[www.tapatalk.com
]Today James was quick, committed, skilful, won headers, held the ball up and put himself about very well. WE don't have a forward with those abilities and, if he is allowed to play inside instead of isolated on the wing, will score loads of goals for us. On a tough day for everyone, he was worth the entrance money alone.
Seems like he did have a good game, good luck to the lad.
As the half time whistle blew against Torquay (his debut), some fans had already made their opinion of him, and let him know as he left the pitch.
Maybe that’s the difference. Players are expected to fail here.
Quote:what a good idea ha haDevonExile
What a pity we cannot send our manager out on loan until he finds his former but at this point I cannot see too many clubs wanting him
Quote:probably after frustration with us they felt they got something to proveShaumbra
Quesiton for you guys...be honest....why do you think that the 2 players MM sent out on loan played well in there first games with the other clubs ?
Quote:Shaumbra
Quesiton for you guys...be honest....why do you think that the 2 players MM sent out on loan played well in there first games with the other clubs ?
Quote:Phil65
How about sending some of us fans out on loan to see some improved performances!Macclesfield are short of a few fans! Pick your club! If you're feeling particularly miserable a loan spell at Chester would suit; you'd fit in well there (naming no names!).
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Quesiton for you guys...be honest....why do you think that the 2 players MM sent out on loan played well in there first games with the other clubs ?
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If it was a 1-2 month loan, then I’d agree with you. However a season long loan suggests he has no place at the club.
Quote:Aldo'smuzzyQuote:mini_andy
If it was a 1-2 month loan, then I’d agree with you. However a season long loan suggests he has no place at the club.
Do we know for sure what the deal is yet? Last I heard we were saying it's only until January but they were saying it's the full season. I'd assumed they were wrong, maybe confusing end of year with end of season, but I haven't seen a definitive answer on this yet.
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I’m led to believe it’s done under 2 loans. One until January, one until the end of the season. They’ve just announced the second one early, and stated that their was no agreement saying they couldn’t.
Could it be a rule that you can only loan until January?
Quote:Claytonne&Clark
The rules are only around registration. At the moment we can only register loanees until the next transfer window. That rule isn't there to prevent longer-term signings - it's just that loans have to be short-term or they would be a transfer outside the window.
There is nothing to stop us selling Alabi to Dover today, if the contract states the fee is paid today but the registration isn't changed until January. He could then play for Dover on loan from Tranmere until the end of his loan, and then become their signings.
Clubs often sign players outside of the transfer window but cannot play them (I think United signed someone at the end of last season, whilst Leicester did this by mistake with the player who was registered 14 seconds after the window closed - although in those cases there wasn't a loan system which enabled the players to play, but if there was in the Premiership that Leicester player would be allowed to play on loan.)
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Alabi scored the first goal for Dover in their 2-1 win today.
Quote:Jack of all Trades
The more goals he scores the better his confidence must be?
Consequently, if his level of performance continues to improve it is another option come January for MM?
It appears JA has started every game for Dover since signing and surely must be a fit for their style of play.
Chris Kinnear is a very good manager and has virtually rebuilt his side for this season, so he must see something in JA?
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The more goals he scores the better his confidence must be?
Consequently, if his level of performance continues to improve it is another option come January for MM?
It appears JA has started every game for Dover since signing and surely must be a fit for their style of play.
Chris Kinnear is a very good manager and has virtually rebuilt his side for this season, so he must see something in JA?
+1 should stay there for as long as it takes to find his scoring boots and confidence