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The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Discussion started by Arsenal Times , 09 October, 2020 18:18
The Peculiar Case of Ozil
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 16/10/2020 23:11 by Padre Pio.

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Boston Gooner 09 October, 2020 19:24
Ozil doesn't give a monkey's about Arsenal.
If he had anything about him he would move on.
He could easily get a big deal abroad.
He could accept a pay off from the club.

But the outcome will be he will probably sit it out.
Taking the weekly money
Taking a wanted space up.

YHS 👍



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2020 21:10 by Boston Gooner.

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Merlion96 10 October, 2020 00:21
I didn't see that.
Good job YHS! thumbs down



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Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Willy 10 October, 2020 15:23
As an Ozil optimist I can’t defend him for not doing what’s asked of him and his team mates if this is true. There certainly must be something like this going on as his on-field contribution wasn’t falling off a cliff when he was playing. The waste of money is physically sickening

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Flava 10 October, 2020 19:49
Ozil and Arsenal are at war. Arsenal make the Gunnersaurus temporarily redundant and Ozil offers to subsidise his £30k a year salary. His social media team are elite. Arsenal get all the bad press (and rightly so) and Ozil looks like a hero. The optics aren't good for Arsenal on this one.

Anyone can get back into Arteta's good books, Xhaka has had an amazing turnaround as have AMN and Ceballos. So much so the latter has been brought back for a second season.

He's gone from being my favourite player, he was so good, to being a player I can't bare to see.

Good piece YHS,

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
weedz 10 October, 2020 21:34
Good work YHS.
The most disappointing part of all this, for me, is how we’ve lost the creativity that a player of MOs ability should have been supplying to our effort.
I believe that it’s mainly Ozils fault because it was not just one manager who he has fought against, and remember him being taken off and saying that Emery can’t coach, but now Arteta as well.
I could of accepted that there was a personality feud between MO and Emery, but when Emery was sacked, MOs attitude didn’t change.
It now feels like MO has a personality feud with Arsenal fc, although he continually states that he loves our club.
Actions speak louder the words.



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Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Jonny Bravo 11 October, 2020 00:05
There is no doubt there is a war going on between Team Ozil and the club on many fronts, playing time, wages, PR and so on. I say Team Ozil, because to my mind a lot of the framing and cultivating of Ozil's image comes from the people advising him, rather than been driven solely by Ozil himself.

Lets remember both Mourinho and Wenger had to treat him with kid gloves in their attempts to coax the best out of him, he was commonly referred to as the teacher's pet at Arsenal by his teammates due to him receiving special treatment. His temperament has been questioned as well, being that of a delicate disposition, not taking criticism well and having a bit of a persecution complex.

It would appear he has surrounded himself with people to protect him and his image, however whether these parties have his best interests as a footballer at heart, or rather are more intent on cultivating his brand for life after football is the biggest question.

It's a sorry state of affairs really, not just for the club but for Ozil himself. From the outside he seems to have fallen out of love with the game, probably in no small part to litany of bust-ups over the last few years. From his war with, and subsequent departure from the German National Team, his constant ongoing battles with Arsenal, especially under Emery, who tried and failed to marginalize him, to Arteta who gave him every chance to prove himself and ultimately had the authority to finally sideline him.

Whether he cares about his real football legacy, or is more concerned with his perceived legacy among the cult of his personality which his PR team has carefully cultivated on twitter, we will never really know. What we do know is this saga will continue to play out until he leaves, whether that is by way of a payoff or hes contract running down until the end. Either way Ozil will be the winner both financially and from a PR point of view.

Ultimately, with the benefit of hindsight, he was the wrong player, at the wrong time. We wanted a marquee striker 2013 when we were finally beginning to exercise our financial muscles, we went from Higuain to Suarez but ended up with Ozil. We needed somebody to drag the team along with him, to replace what we lost in Fabregas and RvP to a lesser extent, to be the main man and take responsibility for the direction of the team.

Ozil was never that kind of player, then or now, he was always much more comfortable being part of the supporting cast, enabling the likes of Ronaldo at Madrid to do his thing. His partnership with Sanchez was the closest he ever got to that here, and that in itself was all too fleeting. We compounded the botched sale of Sanchez by awarding Ozil a new contract, and for those errors of judgement the club also has to take responsibility.

The best thing for all parties now would be for a payoff, let the club, Ozil and most importantly the fans move so we can draw a line under the whole sorry mess and give out about something else for a change.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/10/2020 00:34 by Jonny Bravo.

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
TheReMarkable 11 October, 2020 23:28
Good piece and great post too Jonny B. Agree with a lot of that. One thing that always irks me is the 350k stuff. I’d love to know how much he’s actually taking home a week while not playing? There’s Noway it’s 350. That would be made up of appearance, 90 min, assist etc etc it’s most likely 350 is his on target earning per week.

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Boston Gooner 11 October, 2020 23:57
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TheReMarkable
Good piece and great post too Jonny B. Agree with a lot of that. One thing that always irks me is the 350k stuff. I’d love to know how much he’s actually taking home a week while not playing? There’s Noway it’s 350. That would be made up of appearance, 90 min, assist etc etc it’s most likely 350 is his on target earning per week.

Whatever it is it's to much.



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Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Padre Pio 12 October, 2020 12:41
Ornstein in the Athletic today suggests the club is saving money on Ozil. He claims the club had to pay him £8million loyalty bonus this September!!
It was contractual!
Therefore he suggests that the club is saving on match day bonuses and games played.
He doesn’t say what these match day costs are, but it would appear the club prefer not to pay them rather than use him.



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Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Boston Gooner 12 October, 2020 13:51
loyalty (Sm22)



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Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
Willy 13 October, 2020 12:27
Quote:
Padre Pio
Ornstein in the Athletic today suggests the club is saving money on Ozil. He claims the club had to pay him £8million loyalty bonus this September!!
It was contractual!
Therefore he suggests that the club is saving on match day bonuses and games played.
He doesn’t say what these match day costs are, but it would appear the club prefer not to pay them rather than use him.

8 mill? Insane negotiations. What Arsene says in this piece says a lot about how he managed Ozil and seemed to pay him probably too much respect:

[www.bbc.co.uk]

Seems like Ozil was happy to take the step down from Real on the condition that he would be treated as a very special player. And to be fair it probably worked OK under Wenger overall but what a poisoned chalice to pass on to Emery with him on that contract and with that attitude.

Re: The Peculiar Case of Ozil
mapleleafgooner 13 October, 2020 14:25
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Willy
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Seems like Ozil was happy to take the step down from Real on the condition that he would be treated as a very special player. And to be fair it probably worked OK under Wenger overall but what a poisoned chalice to pass on to Emery with him on that contract and with that attitude.

A few years ago, Ramsey was interviewed and he hinted that Wenger does give more leeway to Ozil than to any other player. And in a recent interview, Wenger did say that Ozil is a special talent and needs to be treated as such. But I don't think Arteta will do so as he sees the team to be bigger than just one player.


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