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Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
Discussion started by Merlion96 , 17 February, 2020 14:22
Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
Merlion96 17 February, 2020 14:22
As long as Zidane is still around, I doubt very much Ceballos will have a future at Real Madrid.

Real may need to cash in Ceballos to build up the funds to rebuild Real Madrid next summer.

Ceballos is terrier-like in midfield, harassing ball carrier and willing to do the dirties to breakup the attacking momentum of Newcastle when they started to counter-attack.
Plus, Ceballos provided the balance in midfield with his accurate passes and knew when to hold and when to pass, complementing Ozil who is double-marked and closed down quickly, freeing both Xhaka and Ceballos to pick the passes through all those open channels due to the movement of Ozil between the lines.

Newcastle can't cope with the movement of Ozil between the lines and his guile in releasing the balls and bringing Xhaka and Ceballos into plays.

Guendouzi is just an obedient road-runner so loved by Emery to keep running box-to-box, breaking up plays and winning balls in the middle. But opponents are wised up to Guendouzi and simply passed the balls to leave him stranded high up on the pitch and out of position ;leaving a large hole in the middle.

If Arteta wanted to play a high-tempo, high pressing game, Guendouzi does not suit his style as he is tactical naïve, without that peripheral vision to spot a passing channel before receiving the balls and took too many touches and slow down the quick counter-attack and high tempo that needed the balls to release quickly to a team-mate running into channels.

Ceballos is a revelation against Newcastle and the contrast between Ceballos and Guendouzi is stark … one a class player who can create plays and passes accurately, and the other just a box-to-box road runner.

My choice?
Just sell Guendouzi and get a better DCM in the summer.

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Re: Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
Boston Gooner 17 February, 2020 14:30
Neither really.
We need an upgrade of Ceballos.

Re: Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
CazOnARola 17 February, 2020 15:54
Willing to wait till the end of the season.
Just watched the whole game and although we had s pbm defensively with both CMs, Ceballos actually won the ball off St. Adama traore jr when he was one v one with Ceballos.

Let's see what happens at the end of season. Guendouzi is a good squad player at the moment and we can wait and sell him for hours max value which could be 50-55mn in the current market.

Currently none of them can start games for us consistently.

Torreira and Ceballos would be tempting, but xhaka always shows for the ball which helps his partner and he is also left footed.

Torreira has a tendency to hide being markers which leaves a lot of possession in the hands of the CBs.

No perfect answer to any of the CM positions in the current squad, although Torreira comes close to an all weather CM, but not quite.

Re: Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
mapleleafgooner 17 February, 2020 16:19
Let's see how Guendouzi respond to being dropped. I think he will play away this Thursday in Greece.

Re: Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
CazOnARola 17 February, 2020 16:22
Reportedly a bust up with Arteta and the coaching staff.

Re: Ceballos vs Guendouzi - who to keep next season?
younghansolo 17 February, 2020 18:28
Both of them are pretty average.

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