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Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Discussion started by Boston Gooner , 03 February, 2020 13:09
Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Boston Gooner 03 February, 2020 13:09
Out-of-sorts Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games this season… the only time they had fewer victories at this stage was 1912-13, when they played in KENT and were relegated for the only time.


Really is a shocking stat.



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Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
goonerred 03 February, 2020 13:44
Draws are killing us.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Merlion96 03 February, 2020 13:46
Welcome to the Championship.



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Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
goonerred 03 February, 2020 13:50
Why can't we convert just a few of these draws into wins? Losethe sideways, sideways,backwards altogether, start, again passing regime might help.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
plonky 03 February, 2020 15:33
or to put it another way Arsenal have lost just SIX Premier League games which is the same as current champions Manchester City,

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
SandyB 03 February, 2020 15:36
No one knows how to move the ball forward, forwards are coming deep into midfield. There is no continuous flow of attack, every ball opponents get they come really close to Arsenal's goal. There are lots of shadow chasers in the team. Unless someone scores a goal or two n then defend to death this team isn't gonna get a win.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
plonky 03 February, 2020 15:49
We will win at least 4 of our next 6 league games.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
BootyDaddy 03 February, 2020 16:09
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plonky
We will win at least 4 of our next 6 league games.

It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't win any of them.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Boston Gooner 03 February, 2020 16:21
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plonky
We will win at least 4 of our next 6 league games.

Might win 3.



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Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
goonerred 03 February, 2020 17:24
I go into every match with no expectation from now on. Scoring a goal is a bonus.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Padre Pio 03 February, 2020 18:18
This is not a relegation season, we have not lost that many matches and GD is better than teams beneath us.
Look at the positives, Arteta has shored up the defence, we actually have a few clean sheets.
Yes the forwards are now suffering because of tightening up, but Arteta has done something the last 3 managers cant do and that is teach defence.
The team has been in decline for 3 years that wont be reversed over night. It will be a poor season but lets not get hysterical, 3 or 4 wins and we will be clear, we are closer to the top six than the bottom six.
We have drawn one more game than the invincibles, but lost six more.
Its frustrating watching Burnley push us about, but it wasnt so long ago that it was Bolton, or Birmingham.
Pull yourselves together



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Shane 03 February, 2020 19:40
I'd put a cheeky fiver on us to get relegated. It's 100/1, and it's 100/1 for a very good reason, but we're literally one injury to Aubameyang away from being in deep, deep trouble.

I don't actually know how Raul Sanllehi is still at the club.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
mapleleafgooner 03 February, 2020 19:50
Quote:
Padre Pio
This is not a relegation season, we have not lost that many matches and GD is better than teams beneath us.
Look at the positives, Arteta has shored up the defence, we actually have a few clean sheets.
Yes the forwards are now suffering because of tightening up, but Arteta has done something the last 3 managers cant do and that is teach defence.
The team has been in decline for 3 years that wont be reversed over night. It will be a poor season but lets not get hysterical, 3 or 4 wins and we will be clear, we are closer to the top six than the bottom six.
We have drawn one more game than the invincibles, but lost six more.
Its frustrating watching Burnley push us about, but it wasnt so long ago that it was Bolton, or Birmingham.
Pull yourselves together

Too many forumners here want instant results. Instant return to winning ways. Not gonna happen this season. We should not get relegated and I think we will end up in mid table. Given the quality of the players we have and the state of the team, I think that is about as good as it gets. WIll need to give Arteta time to turn things around. No magic bullet here.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
SandyB 03 February, 2020 22:18
Quote:
Padre Pio
This is not a relegation season, we have not lost that many matches and GD is better than teams beneath us.
Look at the positives, Arteta has shored up the defence, we actually have a few clean sheets.
Yes the forwards are now suffering because of tightening up, but Arteta has done something the last 3 managers cant do and that is teach defence.
The team has been in decline for 3 years that wont be reversed over night. It will be a poor season but lets not get hysterical, 3 or 4 wins and we will be clear, we are closer to the top six than the bottom six.
We have drawn one more game than the invincibles, but lost six more.
Its frustrating watching Burnley push us about, but it wasnt so long ago that it was Bolton, or Birmingham.
Pull yourselves together

We shouldn't be talking about relegation padre. As you said defense is looking better now, well what they are doing now is taking the bandage from one wound n wrapping around another one.
Club has spent a lot of money but if this is where we are then some heads must roll by end of the season that include team management n a lot of players.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
djarse 04 February, 2020 09:14
We have also lost the least number games in the Premiership (excluding Liverpool of course) - 6

We've had a bizarre number of draws - already after two thirds of the season, more than anyone had during the entire 2018/19 Premier league season.

But no reason why we shouldn't win our next 6 league games:

Home to Newcastle, Everton & West Ham, Away to Brighton & Southampton and Home to Norwich.

And during that time two games against Olympiacos and away to Portsmouth in the Cup - again all winnable.

Anything less than 4 out of 6 league wins and 2 out of 3 wins in the Europa League and FA Cup games would be a disappointment.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Bergmars 04 February, 2020 11:24
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Shane
I'd put a cheeky fiver on us to get relegated. It's 100/1, and it's 100/1 for a very good reason, but we're literally one injury to Aubameyang away from being in deep, deep trouble.
I don't actually know how Raul Sanllehi is still at the club.
Agree recruitment is bizarre



Under new managment

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
CazOnARola 04 February, 2020 11:37
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Bergmars
Quote:
Shane
I'd put a cheeky fiver on us to get relegated. It's 100/1, and it's 100/1 for a very good reason, but we're literally one injury to Aubameyang away from being in deep, deep trouble.
I don't actually know how Raul Sanllehi is still at the club.
Agree recruitment is bizarre
Its bizarre overall but as far as strikers go we have Aubameyang, Martinelli, eddie, Lacazette.

The form of Lacazette is the pbm, he wasn't doing as bad as he is now. Last year welbeck was injured, but we were still going fine because both auba and laca were scoring.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Merlion96 04 February, 2020 15:06
Quote:
CazOnARola
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Bergmars
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Shane
I'd put a cheeky fiver on us to get relegated. It's 100/1, and it's 100/1 for a very good reason, but we're literally one injury to Aubameyang away from being in deep, deep trouble.
I don't actually know how Raul Sanllehi is still at the club.
Agree recruitment is bizarre
Its bizarre overall but as far as strikers go we have Aubameyang, Martinelli, eddie, Lacazette.

The form of Lacazette is the pbm, he wasn't doing as bad as he is now. Last year welbeck was injured, but we were still going fine because both auba and laca were scoring.

After 7 league games, we should start analysing tactics why Laca and MIDFIELD not scoring

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
CazOnARola 04 February, 2020 15:14
Laca is completely shot in terms of confidence. And our front three players be it a combination of auba /pepe/Nelson /Martinelli and Laca included have extremely sub standard passing. On top of that they auba and laca only pass to each other with their final balls.

So the creativity is taking completely in ozil and Torreira s hands which doesn't work well. One e.g. It's when ozil found space on the left and passed to Aubameyang and sprinted to the center leaving both his markers with almost 10 - 15 yards of space in front of him. Auba chose to carry the ball himself instead of playing him in the center and then decide to play ozil when ozil made another diagonal run away from goal. This time the defense was close and smothered ozil s cross.

If Aubameyang plays the simple pass on the center earlier, it opens both sides of the pitch up and increases our chances to score.

Granted our midfield isn't great, but the fowards are some of the worst passers in the league.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
goonerred 04 February, 2020 16:05
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CazOnARola
Laca is completely shot in terms of confidence. And our front three players be it a combination of auba /pepe/Nelson /Martinelli and Laca included have extremely sub standard passing. On top of that they auba and laca only pass to each other with their final balls.
So the creativity is taking completely in ozil and Torreira s hands which doesn't work well. One e.g. It's when ozil found space on the left and passed to Aubameyang and sprinted to the center leaving both his markers with almost 10 - 15 yards of space in front of him. Auba chose to carry the ball himself instead of playing him in the center and then decide to play ozil when ozil made another diagonal run away from goal. This time the defense was close and smothered ozil s cross.

If Aubameyang plays the simple pass on the center earlier, it opens both sides of the pitch up and increases our chances to score.

Granted our midfield isn't great, but the fowards are some of the worst passers in the league.
Arteta should be docking them some of their wages or something if that's happening, it's not exactly teamwork is it?

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
CazOnARola 04 February, 2020 16:56
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goonerred
Quote:
CazOnARola
Laca is completely shot in terms of confidence. And our front three players be it a combination of auba /pepe/Nelson /Martinelli and Laca included have extremely sub standard passing. On top of that they auba and laca only pass to each other with their final balls.
So the creativity is taking completely in ozil and Torreira s hands which doesn't work well. One e.g. It's when ozil found space on the left and passed to Aubameyang and sprinted to the center leaving both his markers with almost 10 - 15 yards of space in front of him. Auba chose to carry the ball himself instead of playing him in the center and then decide to play ozil when ozil made another diagonal run away from goal. This time the defense was close and smothered ozil s cross.

If Aubameyang plays the simple pass on the center earlier, it opens both sides of the pitch up and increases our chances to score.

Granted our midfield isn't great, but the fowards are some of the worst passers in the league.
Arteta should be docking them some of their wages or something if that's happening, it's not exactly teamwork is it?
It isn't obvious.. I have been following every single game we play for decades, watching most matches twice. As would most of the posters here.
Everyone here knew which players need to be moved on but emery gave xhaka a new contract cause he seems extremely professional and focused. It takes time to be with the team to realize. What both of them do can easily be termed as a lack of vision. That both of them just couldn't see the better option. You will have to observe the pattern over a period of 6/7 months judge what is happening and then think of the us something for nefarious at play.
But i, like most of us here have seen Lacazette pre Aubameyang and post. Arteta hasn't.
He needs many of his senior players by his side cause they can easily down tools and get him fired like they did with both wenger and emery.

Its no secret that Alexis for e..g will never pass to ramsey if the latter was in a goal scoring position. Seen it many times in the final 18 months of alexis. Alexis though would pass to everyone else.

The current pbm is a bigger one cause it makes sure that nobody else can actually score any goals if laca/auba are the ones playing the final ball.

Also most of these passes that they try for each other are so difficult to come off, they you would rarely even notice them on highlights to realize that "hey, what if he he squared that ball to guendouzi at the edge of the box or what if he played it to pepe so it's unmarked on the back post vs his best mate who had a very difficult finish on the near post while running."

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
goonerred 04 February, 2020 17:02
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CazOnARola
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goonerred
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CazOnARola
Laca is completely shot in terms of confidence. And our front three players be it a combination of auba /pepe/Nelson /Martinelli and Laca included have extremely sub standard passing. On top of that they auba and laca only pass to each other with their final balls.
So the creativity is taking completely in ozil and Torreira s hands which doesn't work well. One e.g. It's when ozil found space on the left and passed to Aubameyang and sprinted to the center leaving both his markers with almost 10 - 15 yards of space in front of him. Auba chose to carry the ball himself instead of playing him in the center and then decide to play ozil when ozil made another diagonal run away from goal. This time the defense was close and smothered ozil s cross.

If Aubameyang plays the simple pass on the center earlier, it opens both sides of the pitch up and increases our chances to score.

Granted our midfield isn't great, but the fowards are some of the worst passers in the league.
Arteta should be docking them some of their wages or something if that's happening, it's not exactly teamwork is it?
It isn't obvious.. I have been following every single game we play for decades, watching most matches twice. As would most of the posters here.
Everyone here knew which players need to be moved on but emery gave xhaka a new contract cause he seems extremely professional and focused. It takes time to be with the team to realize. What both of them do can easily be termed as a lack of vision. That both of them just couldn't see the better option. You will have to observe the pattern over a period of 6/7 months judge what is happening and then think of the us something for nefarious at play.
But i, like most of us here have seen Lacazette pre Aubameyang and post. Arteta hasn't.
He needs many of his senior players by his side cause they can easily down tools and get him fired like they did with both wenger and emery.

Its no secret that Alexis for e..g will never pass to ramsey if the latter was in a goal scoring position. Seen it many times in the final 18 months of alexis. Alexis though would pass to everyone else.

The current pbm is a bigger one cause it makes sure that nobody else can actually score any goals if laca/auba are the ones playing the final ball.

Also most of these passes that they try for each other are so difficult to come off, they you would rarely even notice them on highlights to realize that "hey, what if he he squared that ball to guendouzi at the edge of the box or what if he played it to pepe so it's unmarked on the back post vs his best mate who had a very difficult finish on the near post while running."
Arteta should be watching our matches over and over again, he will notice it, and should then look further back at matches the whole thing not just highlights, he's the manager. If you watch our matches twice, he should be wathing ghtem 10 times over.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
hippogunner 04 February, 2020 17:41
Quote:
Padre Pio
This is not a relegation season, we have not lost that many matches and GD is better than teams beneath us.
Look at the positives, Arteta has shored up the defence, we actually have a few clean sheets.
Yes the forwards are now suffering because of tightening up, but Arteta has done something the last 3 managers cant do and that is teach defence.
The team has been in decline for 3 years that wont be reversed over night. It will be a poor season but lets not get hysterical, 3 or 4 wins and we will be clear, we are closer to the top six than the bottom six.
We have drawn one more game than the invincibles, but lost six more.
Its frustrating watching Burnley push us about, but it wasnt so long ago that it was Bolton, or Birmingham.
Pull yourselves together

It would be Bolton or Birmingham if they were in the PL.

Put money on us going down but don't think we will now. Arteta should insure I won't be £1800 better off.

Having said that I can't see us winning all six of the upcoming games. Should win three out of four at home but Southampton away is never easy. When did we last win there. And Brighton could be difficult.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
CazOnARola 05 February, 2020 04:51
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goonerred
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CazOnARola
Quote:
goonerred
Quote:
CazOnARola
Laca is completely shot in terms of confidence. And our front three players be it a combination of auba /pepe/Nelson /Martinelli and Laca included have extremely sub standard passing. On top of that they auba and laca only pass to each other with their final balls.
So the creativity is taking completely in ozil and Torreira s hands which doesn't work well. One e.g. It's when ozil found space on the left and passed to Aubameyang and sprinted to the center leaving both his markers with almost 10 - 15 yards of space in front of him. Auba chose to carry the ball himself instead of playing him in the center and then decide to play ozil when ozil made another diagonal run away from goal. This time the defense was close and smothered ozil s cross.

If Aubameyang plays the simple pass on the center earlier, it opens both sides of the pitch up and increases our chances to score.

Granted our midfield isn't great, but the fowards are some of the worst passers in the league.
Arteta should be docking them some of their wages or something if that's happening, it's not exactly teamwork is it?
It isn't obvious.. I have been following every single game we play for decades, watching most matches twice. As would most of the posters here.
Everyone here knew which players need to be moved on but emery gave xhaka a new contract cause he seems extremely professional and focused. It takes time to be with the team to realize. What both of them do can easily be termed as a lack of vision. That both of them just couldn't see the better option. You will have to observe the pattern over a period of 6/7 months judge what is happening and then think of the us something for nefarious at play.
But i, like most of us here have seen Lacazette pre Aubameyang and post. Arteta hasn't.
He needs many of his senior players by his side cause they can easily down tools and get him fired like they did with both wenger and emery.

Its no secret that Alexis for e..g will never pass to ramsey if the latter was in a goal scoring position. Seen it many times in the final 18 months of alexis. Alexis though would pass to everyone else.

The current pbm is a bigger one cause it makes sure that nobody else can actually score any goals if laca/auba are the ones playing the final ball.

Also most of these passes that they try for each other are so difficult to come off, they you would rarely even notice them on highlights to realize that "hey, what if he he squared that ball to guendouzi at the edge of the box or what if he played it to pepe so it's unmarked on the back post vs his best mate who had a very difficult finish on the near post while running."
Arteta should be watching our matches over and over again, he will notice it, and should then look further back at matches the whole thing not just highlights, he's the manager. If you watch our matches twice, he should be wathing ghtem 10 times over.
He's a professional footballer manager. I'm a professional banker. I do not work more than 9 hours a day. Even if he Arteta works 12 hours a day, he still has practice sessions to do, meetings to attend, communicate with the back room staff about what he wants, analyze the previous game and instruct each players what he wants from them. Prepare for press conferences,etc. not to mention flying around. The guy lost his voice at the end of his second game shouting from the touchline.
He would have just told both auba and laca to look for the open man next time. We were playing every 3 days with the squad confidence rock bottom. Where 's the time to watch every single arsenal match played in the past 15 months?
He needs time to observe the same patterns. We forget all of us have been watching every minute of arsenal games, but arteta would have been focused only on city.

And even if he does know, he might just believe that this same team is probably his best chsnge to finish higher. Our bench is way worse.

Ppl have started clamouring for ozil to be kicked out of the team again forgetting that Emery did try that and we were way worse. Guendouzi, Ceballos, xhaka, Willock, smith-rowe are so much worse in the final third, it's not even funny. Almost everyone here agreed we need ozil back, even if he isn't as good as he used to be.

Until we get a player better than ozil, we have no option but to at least use him. And no is not like playing with 10 men. He was hooked off at 55 min vs Chelsea, but in that time he had a 100% pass completion rate.. Say what you want, that helped us keep the ball secret luiz sending off.

We need a big clear out in the summer and Arteta needs to be given the same backing as emery. He picked up a @#$%& show mid season. Can't compare us with everton, spurs, United. Believe it or not they have better players individually (everton debatable) , and certainly more athletically conducive to running a lot.

If get can get the rest of the world to believe that mustafi, xhaka, ozil, Lacazette, Aubameyang, elneny, mkhitaryan, Nketiah are worth more than their current value , we could easily get 150mn pounds out of player sales which could help fund players for arteta in the summer.

Re: Arsenal have won just SIX Premier League games.
Ares 05 February, 2020 21:26
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