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Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Discussion started by Merlion96 , 14 July, 2019 10:08
Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Merlion96 14 July, 2019 10:08
Every manager and his dog "knew" about Arsenal so-called £45m player transfer funds.


But if we amortise this summer player transfer fees over 5-year period, theoretically, we have 45 x 5 = £225m transfer funds.


That is, to comply with FFP, we will only budget £45m for FY2019 player transfer expenditures.


But the problem is that all our rivals knew this as well. And why Tint Totts are doing is forcing us to pay more upfront for Saliba if we are keen on him.

Every club can out-bid us by simply offer to pay more than £45m upfront to force us out of the bidding.


And I doubt very much we can sign any players whose price range is above £45m with sellers demanding payment upfront.


And so, Emery is forced to look for bargains in the £25m range and no more.


Conclusion?

We will not look for another experienced CB.

Sallehi will instruct Emery to develop HIS team to improve from last season or else.

1 - Sokratis
2 - Mustafi
3 - Holding
4 - Monreal
5 - Chambers
6 - Mavropanos
7 - Medley

DEFENCE leaked 5 goals with MIDFIELD being the primary culprit for not shielding Back-4.
We should see a better MIDFIELD and should leak less than 51 goals this season.

And this is the Top-6 team for 2019/20 season with a 50:50 chance of sneaking into Top-4 with both Chelski and ManU in transition.

And we hope Tiny Totts will start to unravel with their marque players demanding a boost in salary, re-structuring their defence and of course, with Eriksen leaving and Son, Kane and Alii hitting a wall due to lack of incentives and frustrating of another trophyless season yet again.

It will be criminal if Emery cannot capitalise on Tiny Totts' perennial slipups.

Most of you said to give Emery a 2nd season.
SO he will and please, no lame excuse as he cannot buy players. Just get on with this bunch and improve on their team-works and score more goals than last season.

Sack him in January 2020 if we out out of Top-4 race by December 2019.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 15/09/2019 18:08 by Padre Pio.

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 09 August, 2019 07:33
And guys, that was what I meant by amortisation.
And kudos to Raul for taking full advantage of it to pay by instalments and still stay within that 45-mil budget.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 09 August, 2019 07:37
[www.express.co.uk]

The Emirates board then broke the bank on a £72m deal for Nicolas Pepe, with Arsenal stumping up an initial £20m with the difference being paid in instalments over the next five years.
A summer-long pursuit of Celtic left-back Kieran Tierney finally ended on deadline day as the Scotland international joined for £25m - but that wasn’t the end of it.
In a shock revelation, David Luiz wanted to move from Chelsea to Arsenal and got his deal over the line just in time for £8m.

Arsenal net spend - summer 2019
Incomings: £138m (Martinelli, Saliba, Pepe, Tierney, Luiz)
Outgoings: £54.5m (Ospina, Bielik, Asano, Koscielny, Iwobi)
Net spend: £118.5m
The fees are full sums including add-ons and not taking into account amortisation



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Gooner Sod 09 August, 2019 15:40
Merlion, not many clubs are paying full transfer fees upfront unless they trigger the buyout clause of an unwilling seller like Neymar to PSG.

Do you really think Man Utd gave Leicester £80m upfront for Maguire? The negotiations wouldn't take so long if that was the case.

The media are only reporting about our instalments because they were all dead wrong about our £45m transfer spend. That's a good way for them to save face so we keep believing what they write in future.

Basically for once, Stan allowed the club to spend for reasons unknown. But it means Emery is under massive pressure as now results will be expected. This is the way big clubs like Arsenal should operate.

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 09 August, 2019 17:31
That is correct.
Least we forget, there is a massive debt burden due about now for those amortisation purchase starting in 2013 with Ozil, Mustafi, Xhaka, Lacazette, Aubameyang, Leno and Torreira that will eat into out finance for the next 3 seasons which can only be paid off by selling one 30-mil plus player per season.

Now, you understand why Arsene Wenger turned a profit virtually every season by buying and selling players to help to finance Emirates Debt then via amortisation and selling marquee players every season; Fabregas being the last.
Adebayor, Nasri and Van Persie were forced sales with them threatening to rundown their contract.

And why SIlent Stan is still imposing that self-sustainable model even on Raul and Venkat.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
CazOnARola 09 August, 2019 19:11
Yeah but raul and venkat have done a better job at getting rid of players we don't need. Unlike chsmakh and bendtner and co. who just sat here doing nothing

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 10 August, 2019 03:32
Certainly. Job half-done.
Let's hope he can move Elneny and Mustafi by 2 September.

One surprise may be that Raul may be able to move Kolasinac this month as he has better resale value than Monreal.

Plus, perhaps move Xhaka and Mkhitaryan by Jan 2020 or summer 2020 with new crop of youngsters moving into senior squad.

Monreal is on his last leg and we need to buy a back-up to Teirney during Jan 2020.

More drama before all transfer windows are closed.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Flava 10 August, 2019 07:31
Quote:
Merlion96
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1163536/Arsenal-transfer-news-net-spend-summer-window-2019-David-Luiz-Kieran-Tierney
The Emirates board then broke the bank on a £72m deal for Nicolas Pepe, with Arsenal stumping up an initial £20m with the difference being paid in instalments over the next five years.
A summer-long pursuit of Celtic left-back Kieran Tierney finally ended on deadline day as the Scotland international joined for £25m - but that wasn’t the end of it.
In a shock revelation, David Luiz wanted to move from Chelsea to Arsenal and got his deal over the line just in time for £8m.

Arsenal net spend - summer 2019
Incomings: £138m (Martinelli, Saliba, Pepe, Tierney, Luiz)
Outgoings: £54.5m (Ospina, Bielik, Asano, Koscielny, Iwobi)
Net spend: £118.5m
The fees are full sums including add-ons and not taking into account amortisation

How does £138m - £54m = £118m

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Bergmars 10 August, 2019 08:53
Silly



Under new managment

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 17:28
Are I silly now?

Ooi, FLava, I beat you to the punch! (Sm128)



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Willy 15 September, 2019 17:42
Who would you want instead though?

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 17:45
Easy.
Sack Emery by January 2020 if we are not Top-4 and still fighting in all FOUR competitions; of course, one of them being Top-4 that is as good as winning a cup competition.

I believe that is the KPI for Emery if he wishes to extend his contract.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
CazOnARola 15 September, 2019 17:57
We have invested heavily in emery. Saliba is an example.

Don't forget that AMN and Kolasinac were shocking on the ball.

Bellerin and Tierney will make a big difference offensively esp in keeping possession and defensively it will be difficult to do worse.

Pepe looks a little lost. I can understand that it will take time for him to gauge how quickly you get close down in the epl and refs allow what would be fouls in other leagues/ucl.
But it seems like emery hasn't been able to tell him what positions he needs to take on the pitch and he seems to be completely out of sync with his team. Having an idiot like AMN along side hasnt helped.

AMN, the moment he enters the opposition half thinks he needs to take on players

Re: Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 ...
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 18:04
Caz, in this team, I doubt very much Bellerin and Tierney will make a difference as both of them will be caught high up the pitch and leave the defence exposed.

The key point is that Emery still has not develop a ball-winning midfield that can instantly pressurised ball carrier once the ball is lost … like Liverpool after 4 years of development by Klopp to what it is today.

Doubt very much Emery has the nous and man-management skills to develop Arsenal to Liverpool level even giving him 4 years.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Emery out
Flava 15 September, 2019 17:24
Nothing has changed. We’ve spent a lot of money, the defence is still rubbish and the football is worse.

There, I’ve said it

Re: Emery out
Boston Gooner 15 September, 2019 17:27
Quote:
Flava
Nothing has changed. We’ve spent a lot of money, the defence is still rubbish and the football is worse.
There, I’ve said it

Totally agree.



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Re: Emery out
tigerline 15 September, 2019 17:28
After last season’s horrific collapse, Emery was on a very short leash.
Today’s second half was as poorly managed as I have ever seen.
23 shots to 4 in the second half.

He must be gone as soon as possible.

Re: Emery out
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 17:29
Ooi, Flava, I had beaten you to the punch! (Sm128)



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Emery out
Gunnersingh1 15 September, 2019 17:31
Any decent manager would havw said we've bewn lucky @#$%& around twice at the back, swcond half kick it long.

It's simply Emery's fault we didn't win that game!

Emery's subs were horrfic too!

Re: Emery out
Kalela 15 September, 2019 17:34
He was better with his substitutions last season. I am not sure why he went away from that midfield trio (Willock, Guendouzi and Ceballos) that was good in all games except for the Liverpool one.

Re: Emery out
Gunnersingh1 15 September, 2019 17:46
Sack him now. Mourinho is available. Get him in f ucking now.

Re: Emery out
CazOnARola 15 September, 2019 17:46
Quote:
Kalela
He was better with his substitutions last season. I am not sure why he went away from that midfield trio (Willock, Guendouzi and Ceballos) that was good in all games except for the Liverpool one.
Europa. But most likely he doesn't understand his own teams strength. The moment it was 2-1, he should have known we need another goal to win the game or at least put pressure on watford cause we don't do well when we are camped in our half.

Also he is making the same mistake that wenger used to make when he would sub Pires/ozil/sanchez, etc and bring on a cygan/gibbs, etc we would eventually concede cause we wouldn't have an outball.
Taking all the players that can hold the ball under pressure in ozil, Ceballos and guendouzi (who had had two shocking balls playing it from the back tbf) was suicidal.
Also on a completely different note, if we were going to loan mkhi, we should have never sold iwobi, we are one injury to a forward away from playing @#$%& Nelson in the epl



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 15/09/2019 17:51 by CazOnARola.

Re: Emery out
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 17:48
I hate to say it.
Arsene Wenger is available too! (Sm22)



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Emery out
AJ The Gunner 15 September, 2019 17:53
What exactly has Emery brought to this team??? Watford had 10 shots on target to our 5. 14 shots off target to our 2. 7 corners to our 1. I should be grateful we drew this game but I'm not. Emery has brought ZIP, NOTHING to our team. #EnoughSaid



Wenger Is Gone Now So Can We Be Allowed To Breathe Now???

Re: Emery out
SuperRob 15 September, 2019 17:53
The players need to step up and take more responsibility. Individual errors cost us over and over again and the first one changed the game.

There are no leaders on the pitch.

Re: Emery out
MattySadler 15 September, 2019 17:54
Got to go.

That was laughable.

2 penalties conceded by Luiz in 4 games, after only conceding 3 in 160 games for Chelsea...

Re: Emery out
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 18:00
Quote:
SuperRob
The players need to step up and take more responsibility. Individual errors cost us over and over again and the first one changed the game.
There are no leaders on the pitch.

A bad workman blamed his tools.
And it is the responsibility of the workman to select his primary tool for the task at hand.
Primary tool = leader on the pitch.

Sadly, if Xhaka is the appointed "leader on the pitch" by Unai Emery, then there is no difference in performance between Arsene Wenger an Unai Emery isn't it?

Unai Emery is a proven born loser in managing marquee team like PSG with marquee players like Neymar. What make us think that he will do a better job than Arsene Wenger?

We need a new manager with a fresh and innovative approach to continue the legacy of Arsene Wenger to play attacking football.

What we are having is a "petit Mourinho" operating on a shoestring budget sans silverware.

As long as Unai Emery is around, forget about silverware.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Emery out
Merlion96 15 September, 2019 18:08
Quote:
MattySadler
Got to go.
That was laughable.

2 penalties conceded by Luiz in 4 games, after only conceding 3 in 160 games for Chelsea...

Amen.
And Edu got to go too.

Re: Emery out
CazOnARola 15 September, 2019 18:11
Quote:
Merlion96
Quote:
SuperRob
The players need to step up and take more responsibility. Individual errors cost us over and over again and the first one changed the game.
There are no leaders on the pitch.

A bad workman blamed his tools.
And it is the responsibility of the workman to select his primary tool for the task at hand.
Primary tool = leader on the pitch.

Sadly, if Xhaka is the appointed "leader on the pitch" by Unai Emery, then there is no difference in performance between Arsene Wenger an Unai Emery isn't it?

Unai Emery is a proven born loser in managing marquee team like PSG with marquee players like Neymar. What make us think that he will do a better job than Arsene Wenger?

We need a new manager with a fresh and innovative approach to continue the legacy of Arsene Wenger to play attacking football.

What we are having is a "petit Mourinho" operating on a shoestring budget sans silverware.

As long as Unai Emery is around, forget about silverware.
I hate to say it but i agree. Even if we get top 4, emery just doesn't have the balls to take the initiative. I realized this with the team he put out at home to spurs.

You cant respect the opposition so much. His subs made us toothless as they werent even defensive, just nonsense. We just invited the pressure.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 15/09/2019 18:18 by CazOnARola.

Re: Emery out
Bergmars 15 September, 2019 18:13
Quote:
Flava
Nothing has changed. We’ve spent a lot of money, the defence is still rubbish and the football is worse.
There, I’ve said it
Absolutely



Under new managment

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Merlion96 16 September, 2019 04:32
Arsenal have spent £200m+ in two years since Unai Emery came...how exactly has he improved Arsenal?

Leading Watford by 0-2 at half-time, and after spending £200m+ in two years, Emery was proud to exclaim that Watford deserves their point!



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
MattySadler 16 September, 2019 05:42
Concerning how much we've been out-shot this season, and can't really see what it is we're trying to do.

Not sure we'll sack him during the season though.

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
MattySadler 16 September, 2019 05:50
Quote:
MattySadler
Concerning how much we've been out-shot this season, and can't really see what it is we're trying to do.
Not sure we'll sack him during the season though.

Faced more shots this season than any other side from Europe's top five leagues, and have faced 14 more shots in our first five games than Derby County did in 07-08.

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Optimistic Gunner 16 September, 2019 18:05
Emery can't setup a defence and neither can his coaches.

I have seen no improvement in our defence since Emery joined.

Even with the players we have, we should be doing better with better tactics, traning and organisation.

At this time I am more in the Emery Out side than in Emery In.

Unless there is some real improvement, especially defensively then Emery needs to go, even if we get 4th.



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Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Willy 16 September, 2019 18:20
It’s got to be an issue that it’s still so hard to understand what he says. Particularly because he seems to be a micro manager

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
hippogunner 16 September, 2019 20:20
Having endured the second half of that farce where apparently we were playing the bottom side in the league I have sworn to forego watching Arsenal until we get a manager who actually appears to have a plan. The issues of our defence still remain unresolved, in fact ignored.

We insist on playing the ball from out the back when half a dozen Watford players are about to pounce. We conceded the first goal that way and within a few minutes we're doing exactly the same again. It's actually comical. Do the players have to be lobotomised to play for Arsenal?

As for these youngsters, Willock, Nelson and AMN, they will all probably be out the door in two years. Compared to Chelsea's youngsters they are shambolic. Perhaps if they had a manager who had some semblance of purpose they might function better, who knows. Emery is a loser who seems terrified of any opposition that suddenly decides to inject a little fight into the game, which seems to be mirrored by the players, re Xhaka's pathetic comment of being scared. Please get these cowards out of the club!

This season will be as utterly unedifying as last season. We should have got Klopp but right now I'd take Brendan bloody Rogers.

Re: Emery Out + Sack Unai Emery in January 2020 Bumper thread
Merlion96 16 September, 2019 21:15
Luis Enrique?

[dailycannon.com]

Hmmm … interesting.
Heard knives sharpening sound.
And wouldn't be surprised an ambitious Sanllehi is going through that Emery's Presentation to find if he had been sold a pig in a poke.



'We can strive to act as best as we can, but we can never completely control the outcome. … … but if we make our goal simply doing the best we can, then nothing can get in our way' Stoicism


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