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Match Discussion: Grimsby Town (H)


By Deadly Submarine
April 28 2016

A place for fans of both Tranmere Rovers and Grimsby Town to discuss Saturday evening's game at Prenton Park......

 

 

 

 

 

 

As Rovers prepare for Saturday's home game against Grimsby Town in the National League, our match discussion thread returns once again as Rovers look to achieve a play-off place on the final day of the season.  Grimsby meanwhile will be looking to go into next week's play-offs with a good result at Prenton Park.

Whether you are unable to make the game for any reason, or even if you are attending, this is the place to discuss all the pre-match build up including team line-up and score predictions, events during the match itself  as well as all the post match fall-out and analysis.   The thread is open to fans of both sides to discuss the events surrounding the game so if you haven't got a Message Forum accounts yet then why not sign up now?

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Match Discussion: Grimsby Town (H)
Discussion started by Total Tranmere (IP Logged), 28/04/2016 21:07
Total Tranmere
Total Tranmere
28/04/2016 21:07
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016:06:08:16:02:34 by Deadly Submarine.

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TranmereFan
28/04/2016 21:12
Parp.

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Phil65
28/04/2016 21:44
It's feels better to have a roller coaster last game of the season at the right end of the table for a change. I guess if we don't do it the pain will still cut as deeply. Hope we receive some divine help. Come on Alty and come on Rovers! I want to be drinking to celebrate come Saturday night not drowning sorrows!!

Johnos Hackers
Johnos Hackers
29/04/2016 00:06
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Phil65
It's feels better to have a roller coaster last game of the season at the right end of the table for a change. I guess if we don't do it the pain will still cut as deeply. Hope we receive some divine help. Come on Alty and come on Rovers! I want to be drinking to celebrate come Saturday night not drowning sorrows!!

Phil let's hope you will need a drink after eating your hat..!,,😂😂😂

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Paz
29/04/2016 10:09
Que Sera, Sera

If it doesn't happen, I won't be drowning my sorrows (as long as the performance isn't another Welling!)

Come on Rovers, let tomorrow finally be the day we thump some one 5 or 6-0!!

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TT Admin
29/04/2016 10:42
Same here Paz.

I'll be disappointed that we haven't made it (assuming we don't) but particularly if we win the game tomorrow, I will at least be pleased we did our part of what we needed to do on the day and we go again next season - hopefully stronger and wiser from a year in this League!

ming05
ming05
29/04/2016 15:56
Only just noticed its 530 kick off shows how much attention I've been doing

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
29/04/2016 18:30
Really hope we win but I see it as 1-3 Grimsby, 3 shots 3 goals, with a 4-2 win for Braintree, really hop I'm wrong though.

DevonExile
DevonExile
29/04/2016 19:26
The fact that we have not beaten any of the top teams at home combined with so many contracts to be considered should be incentive enough to raise the game of the players.
If they cannot do so tomorrow can we really belief that most of thoseplaying tomorrow have what is needed to mount a tittle challenge?

muir 184
muir 184
29/04/2016 19:59
just a win ..... dont care wat the score is lets be possotive

muir 184
muir 184
29/04/2016 19:54
well this is it folks . i know lots of people who are goin tomorrow . an some havent been this sesone . lets fill the grownd make loads of noise . an back the boys wat ever the outcombe meybe . lets stop all the negetive stuff at least we are at the right end of the table for a change . who knows wat tomorrow will bring we can all dream . so come on boys an girlies lets get there early an have fun

Heswall Boy
Heswall Boy
29/04/2016 20:33
Grimsby will not be arsed win lose or draw. Tranmere 2-0 winners and Braintree get hammered and where back in the play offs.

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Doogie'sGhost
29/04/2016 20:55
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Heswall Boy
Grimsby will not be arsed win lose or draw. Tranmere 2-0 winners and Braintree get hammered and where back in the play offs.

That's what we've got to hope. I suspect the first part may well be easier than the second bit.

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2 the moon
29/04/2016 22:07
Can't go tomorrow which is a major pain in the @#$%&. But I will be the one at the wedding with headphones in. It's possible, there's a chance. Come on

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Phil65
29/04/2016 23:34
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Johnos Hackers
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Phil65
It's feels better to have a roller coaster last game of the season at the right end of the table for a change. I guess if we don't do it the pain will still cut as deeply. Hope we receive some divine help. Come on Alty and come on Rovers! I want to be drinking to celebrate come Saturday night not drowning sorrows!!

Phil let's hope you will need a drink after eating your hat..!,,😂😂😂

Damn, I'd hoped no one would have remembered. I'll price a new hat in the club shop before the game just in case! Looks like a tough night ahead for me tomorrow win or lose!..(Sm136)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016:04:29:23:38:36 by Phil65.

jade-trfc
jade-trfc
30/04/2016 06:44
1-0 tranmere in first 10mins give us a nervous 80 and make it hard.

2-1 alty holness 90+6 we can all dream i suppose

DevonExile
DevonExile
30/04/2016 09:17
Unfortunately dreams are usually insubstantial but it doesnt stop you hoping against the odds

Eric01 Tranmere
Eric01 Tranmere
30/04/2016 09:50
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Deadly Submarine
Same here Paz.
I'll be disappointed that we haven't made it (assuming we don't) but particularly if we win the game tomorrow, I will at least be pleased we did our part of what we needed to do on the day and we go again next season - hopefully stronger and wiser from a year in this League!

Eric01 Tranmere
Eric01 Tranmere
30/04/2016 09:54
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Deadly Submarine
Same here Paz.
I'll be disappointed that we haven't made it (assuming we don't) but particularly if we win the game tomorrow, I will at least be pleased we did our part of what we needed to do on the day and we go again next season - hopefully stronger and wiser from a year in this League!

Agree 100% after two consecutive relegations.

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BELMONT
30/04/2016 12:34
Tranmere 0 Grimsby 1

Braintree 0 Alty 2

Woking 0 Eastleigh 3


Eastleigh pinch 5th spot.

ming05
ming05
30/04/2016 12:41
Everyone draws 1-1 and stays as is

warren r
Wozza
30/04/2016 13:24
We win and Braintree get a late equaliser

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TranmereFan
30/04/2016 14:57
It is what it is, we've had a good go for a first attempt. And if were still here next season, the club knows home form is the problem, so its likely it will turn around for us at home. We have a summer of Football to look forwards to with the Euros, so the break will be over before we know it. And we get to play Chester and Wrexham again! so its not all bad! #SWA

ming05
ming05
30/04/2016 15:56
Well can honestly say I don't like 530 kick offs, a lot of hanging around on a Saturday

mini_andy
mini_andy
30/04/2016 16:37
Altrincham's Twitter loaded, everything crossed, let's see what happens!

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
30/04/2016 17:23
Cressington Rd sounds lively on BT and they have kept 12 clean sheets in the last 15 at home apparently :-(

PodgeAmond
PodgeAmond
30/04/2016 17:25
Well, you have no excuses for not winning today guys !

Grimsby playing nine reserves including a 65 yr old goalkeeper !

It's Braintree's to lose !!!!!!!!!!!!

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
30/04/2016 17:50
1-0 braintree allty poor

mini_andy
mini_andy
30/04/2016 18:08
Guiseley are winning 3-0, so if that score rains, the alty are relegated regardless of what they do

ming05
ming05
30/04/2016 18:14
Maynard is having a stinker

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hong kong rover
30/04/2016 18:20
weve had it. braintree 2 up and bossing this. alty are very poor.

tranmerepete
tranmerepete
30/04/2016 18:25
Late kick off sun on my face in the kop I like it. But why not play like this at home all the time.

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

mini_andy
mini_andy
30/04/2016 18:33
Because we don't always play the oppositions reserve team

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
30/04/2016 18:55
Thats that people.....frees up May anyhow

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hong kong rover
30/04/2016 19:01
braintree 3 up. ive switched it off. going to bed. the new season preparations start today.. top priority~ sort out these home defeats.

warren r
Wozza
30/04/2016 20:14
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braintree 3 up. ive switched it off. going to bed. the new season preparations start today.. top priority~ sort out these home defeats.
👍

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TT Admin
30/04/2016 20:22
Well we did our part of the job today but as I expected, Braintree weren't going to slip up against Altrincham and we go again next season.

I'm already looking forward to it with some squad strengthening I don't think we'll be too far away and also looking forward to some of the away trips again next season including York!

corpac
corpac
30/04/2016 20:36
Today's game just about sums up our pathetic clueless inept home form, we struggled to a one nil victory against a Grimsby team with eight team changes.
Had we won just ONE more home game we were in the play offs. Whilst our failure to aspire to the play offs is based on the whole seasons results I can't help reflecting on our recent inability to beat Welling.
For me ,once again ,Brabin is simply not up to it.
Mr Palios please accept the consensus and tell him to foxtrot Oscar.

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TT Admin
30/04/2016 20:39
Whilst that post sums up what we are up against every week!

Who cares what side they put out? We got the win - it may have only been 1-0 but could have been more. People have moaned that we have failed to beat 'Pub Teams' (see my other thread about that) but when we do beat a side that is also apparently weaker than us it's still not good enough - it's pretty much laughable!



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TT Admin
30/04/2016 20:52
How embarrassing was the Under 12 pitch invasion by the way at the end of the game?!

GUAR
GUAR
30/04/2016 21:02
For me the Kidderminster game sticks in my mind what sums it all up.

corpac
corpac
30/04/2016 21:15
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Deadly Submarine
Whilst that post sums up what we are up against every week!
Who cares what side they put out? We got the win - it may have only been 1-0 but could have been more. People have moaned that we have failed to beat 'Pub Teams' (see my other thread about that) but when we do beat a side that is also apparently weaker than us it's still not good enough - it's pretty much laughable!

Of course we don't care what side an opposing team puts out but the fact remains that we beat their " reserve" side, one nil this just illustrates our poor home form, can you not see we are not in the play offs because of this abysmal record, Why should I or any other fan be happy with this win as it is far too little far too late.

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TT Admin
30/04/2016 21:16
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For me the Kidderminster game sticks in my mind what sums it all up.

Yeah I said that to a couple of people before the game today but it was also pointed out to me that the late collapse in that one was I guess countered by that Barrow game where we got three very unlikely points in amazing fashion!

GUAR
GUAR
30/04/2016 21:36
I agree I am not normally one banging on about changing the manager. But on the Kidderminster game alone we were coasting throughout the game and God only knows what changed the dimension of the game.
My point is that I cannot remember a manager being so disconnected from the fans as much as brabin. At least with Edwards although a flop there was a glimmer of hope to start with as he has a good youth background.
And Adams previous has been of a high level. I have been racking my brains and I think the last time I felt like this about a manager is Dave Watson.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
30/04/2016 22:07
The incident that summed up to me how we get our tactics so wrong at home happened about ten minutes from the end. Grimsby were attacking not particularly threateningly.It wasn't a free kick or a corner but we had ten men back in our area[why I've no idea] . Norwood was miles away in their half, marked/covered by at least 3 maybe 4 of their players,so when the hoof came for him to scurry so willingly after,there was nobody anywhere near him even if he did win the ball.

This sort of thing happens so regularly that it is beyond a joke. We need BIG changes in the way we approach HOME games in particular. Whether this is done under the current management.......... only the Palios' will decide.

PeteTRFC
PeteTRFC
30/04/2016 22:51
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Deadly Submarine
Whilst that post sums up what we are up against every week!
Who cares what side they put out? We got the win - it may have only been 1-0 but could have been more. People have moaned that we have failed to beat 'Pub Teams' (see my other thread about that) but when we do beat a side that is also apparently weaker than us it's still not good enough - it's pretty much laughable!

Let's be honest, they made apparently 8 changes from the last game and had nothing to play for.
Also, we 'scored' an own goal to win 1 nil

What is still worrying is the apparent reluctance of our team to cross the half way line in numbers and at speed. Norwood ran down a number of balls that really shouldn't have been his, and did surprisingly well, but where was the support?

Was Kirby unfit, as its seems odd to have played Maynard ahead of him?

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BELMONT
30/04/2016 22:53
[quote Deadly Submarine]How embarrassing was the Under 12 pitch invasion by the way at the end of the game?![/quote

What more embarrassing was the one's in white that's been on the pitch all season, couldn't even stick more than one past a thirty nine year old goal keeping coach who hasn't played for two years.

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TT Admin
30/04/2016 22:55
We won the game so as far as I'm concerned nothing else matters except that Braintree won which meant we missed out.

I can picture next season already. Our home form picks up but the fans complain that we aren't winning home games the right way (a bit like today).

Looking forward to that already - NOT!

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
30/04/2016 22:59
If we win games people are happy and to insinuate that wouldn't be the case is a naive comment.

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TT Admin
30/04/2016 23:03
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If we win games people are happy and to insinuate that wouldn't be the case is a naive comment.

Like the one we won today you mean?!! That's really lightened the mood of the fans!

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
30/04/2016 23:16
Way out of context that comment and extremely disingenuous, deadly.

The comments made today are heavily laced with the concerns built up from the season.

Uglybob
Uglybob
30/04/2016 23:41
We did what we had to do today , but , with the scores coming through it didn't really matter . When Braintree were 3-0 up it was all over .

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Matt34
01/05/2016 00:04
Tranmere needed the win and they got it, regardless of the scoreline and to be honest I could blame the players for dropping a 2-0 lead against Kidderminster and for losing 4-1 to a Woking side who had less shots than them.

Brabin was never going to be perfect, but there were games where he put out a side that could create many chances and slot home scant few and that Woking result was a prime example of that.

This highlights the need especially to keep Norwood and prime him with attacking partners, who can infiltrate opposition nets with reasonable frequency.

I feel Taylor Fletcher after a poor level of initial output, warrants retention, but Higdon, who did put Tranmere in a position to challenge for the playoffs today with a vital goal recently, warrants no further action for me, which is disappointing for me as I had high hopes he could deliver based on previous clubs and form at some of them, but if he is kept I will accept this, however if not I wish him well.

As for Margetts, nobody really knows what he means to the management in relation to perceived skill or attitude, but if kept I would accept this, but if allowed to roam free, I would wish him well.

Defensively, there is no massive need to recruit, but one or two that can keep another 4-5 out of the next wouldn't harm, but the attacking threat needs addressing, because ruthlessness has, at times, been not forthcoming and in relation to midfield one or two new recruits to bolster the scoring form and create a little more ruthless efficiency in the final third would be a good thing.

As stated elsewhere if a player adds quality, is relatively injury free and can run for 90+ minutes, or 80+ minutes if they're 18 / 19, then I don't care if the player is 19 or 38, as some players with the been there done that attitude, that give 100% in any circumstance and add quality, can be a good blender, with some 20 something aged players with that 150-250 game experience and some raw or slightly experienced under 22's; as simply going for under 26 /27's for me is flawed, especially if you're looking to pull your butt out of the fire at 2-3 goals down, because expecting 100-200 game players, to be a source of great inspiration for players in their 10th game, for example, is a bit much, but when you have a few 300+ game players in the squad, it can be a leveler and a player with the nouse, experience, guile and attitude of Goodison, that runs all day, is unfaltering in attitude, with quality and limited injury potential and Mcnulty offered this and I think after a long time Taylor Fletcher also for me, after a poor initial run of games where he yielded little.

Much for the Palios' and Brabin to ponder if Brabin does stay, but Tranmere should have a budget good enough to compete for signings, but I would like to see a bit more recruitment nouse, like one or two lower division signings, such as Kristian O'leary for example and maybe utilise the Toffees connection with a young loanee perhaps, because Chester did it, so Tranmere should be able to do it, depending on who the player is, or at least maybe one or two of the released crop would be worth running the rule over in pre-season, as well as one or two released Liverpool youth.

Of course should Brabin feel audacious, he might want to see if Kolo Toure is available on a free and would like to mosey on through the tunnel, once he's heard the marvelous things the youth had have to say about Prenton Park and the pitch they've played on.

after all if you don't ask you don't get.

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

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Phil65
01/05/2016 00:05
Quite ironic and a tad contradictory really that Forest Green have been heavily criticised for their style of play and yet we see winning as the only important factor regardless of how it's achieved. What happened to our ethos of wanting to watch quality football at Prenton Park? To me, the times we have been successful this season, put teams under pressure, kept possession, dominated periods of play and scored some decent goals is when we have tried to play with flair and purpose as opposed to "percentage" football. I, for one, will never give up my aspirations to want to see a style of play that is pleasing to the eye and puts fear in to the opposition and draws plaudits from not only our own supporters but opposition supporters too. I felt a sense of pride hearing a comment at the Lincoln away game from a home supporter when he incredulously stated that "Tranmere actually try to play football" as if it was an alien concept in this league. Unfortunately I think we have drifted away from this style of play on too many occasions in my opinion. I would like to think the club, chairman, the manager, the players and the fans share my aspiration. Maybe I'm way off the mark and a win at all costs attitude will prevail even if it's the death knell of "football". Cheltenham and Braintree have played "football" and have been successful; Forest Green and Eastleigh have been less inspiring with Forest Green being successful in finishing second and Eastleigh coming close to the play offs (even Forest Green fans are frustrated and sometimes embarrassed by their style of play according to numerous posts on their forum during the season). Both styles of play can achieve "success" but I know which one I want to pay my money and watch; there is a choice, the league is not a one-trick pony. We will lose some games playing "football" but I believe quality will out in the end. Boyhood dreams contain aspirational visions of individual and team glory ala Messi and Barcelona, not lumping balls forward to a lone centre forward. Let no one shatter our dreams and take away our aspirations. I have ample time now to dream on to a brave new world (otherwise known as next season). Let's at least try and play the beautiful game how it is supposed to be played. Time for another anaesthetic now (more commonly known as a beer). P.S. saved myself £10 on a new hat today; will wear the old one with pride next season (Rennie and Gaviscon put away in the cupboard for another year!).

PeteTRFC
PeteTRFC
01/05/2016 09:18
Top post Phil

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
01/05/2016 09:33
Agree with you Phil that the main aim is to play football but I have held my tongue this season during times where we won but not really played football, never mind dominated games.

Against Chester and Bromley we played attaching, 4-4-2 football and dominated both games. It was good to watch and demonstrated how to beat an average and a below average team, and also entertain.

The problem we have is that the manager does not want to play this way and is simply not adaptable. Instead, he has stuck to a tactic that he probably used with his previous clubs when he had a limited budget and squad. This then produced what we saw this season which was limiting football.

I would love to be as positive as I have been in the last three summers with a genuine optimistic belief that the future is bright.

Unfortunately we may have to endure a bit more time with a manager who has a poor relationship with the fans, plays negative football and looks for magic signings to save his bacon.

Pattaya stew
Pattaya stew
01/05/2016 14:47
Keep Brabin forever bit like Arsenal whinger , never does enough but a small percentage of fans are happy being also Rans in their league

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TT Admin
01/05/2016 15:43
Small percentage? That another one of those FACTS?!!!

Fiftyyearsarover
Fiftyyearsarover
01/05/2016 16:50
Good post phil65 spot on .you were never in danger of your hat eating taken place you were on safe ground there

Fiftyyearsarover
Fiftyyearsarover
01/05/2016 16:51
Good post phil65 spot on .you were never in danger of your hat eating taken place you were on safe ground there

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Matt34
01/05/2016 23:02
Tranmere won though and some said they would not win, as if it was already written in the stars, but it's noticeable that such people have not come here and admitted their apparent psychic powers let them down, so they clearly couldn't be humble in the circumstances (Sm7) (Sm7)

Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
02/05/2016 08:48
Let's get it in perspective, thanks to an own goal we beat Grimsbys reserves.

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TT Admin
03/05/2016 12:36
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Let's get it in perspective, thanks to an own goal we beat Grimsbys reserves.

Jennings scored against Grimsby.

So we don't count own goals or penalties as being of any use it seems? What next? Only goals from outside the area are any good?

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
03/05/2016 15:03
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Let's get it in perspective, thanks to an own goal we beat Grimsbys reserves.

Jennings scored against Grimsby.

So we don't count own goals or penalties as being of any use it seems? What next? Only goals from outside the area are any good?

Yes, I only count good goals anything else isn't worth the entry fee! The point was it was a reserve team lets not get to OTT on performances and things that were deserved because realistically we should be making easy work of reserve teams with nothing to play for, which they obviously didn't before someone says 3rd place because they would have put a first team out. One nils need to be two nils next year or 3-1's.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
03/05/2016 15:09
They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.


The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

tranmerepete
tranmerepete
03/05/2016 15:43
Yes he is a great penalties taker calm and looks like he will score it every time.

Every ball is a white ball............TRFC

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
03/05/2016 16:06
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Hoots Mon
They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.

The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

Bloody Nora you literally can't say anything on here if it's not in favour of the club, all I said was let's not get carried away beating Grimsby reserves. Which is a more than fair comment.

I never mentioned penalties and things, as a matter of fact I've made many comments in defence of his Penos this year on other threads, I'm also more than quite aware personally of the fine margins involved in professional sport all be it away from soccer, and what goes on behind the scenes and the difference in success and failure and what success and failure is.

If we are going to be so serious about it, yes we beat Grimsby you can only beat who turns up on the day and you can not alter what anybody else does on the pitch. A manager can't control his players he can only advise. Yes there can be many things to play for both as an individual and a team both intrinsic and extrinsic.

There are a variety of ways to mangage, you can be a dynamic leader, a dictator, a pacifist blah blah.

Every sportsman or woman needs targets, short term, long term and adaptable, Targets are pointless if they are not constantly assessed and reassessed. In order to have a target you must have a base line performance indicator to begin with and be aware of the performers limitations when setting the target, I.e it must be realistic and you mustn't get carried away.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
03/05/2016 18:04
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Higgosboots
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Hoots Mon
They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.

The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

Bloody Nora you literally can't say anything on here if it's not in favour of the club, all I said was let's not get carried away beating Grimsby reserves. Which is a more than fair comment.

I never mentioned penalties and things, as a matter of fact I've made many comments in defence of his Penos this year on other threads, I'm also more than quite aware personally of the fine margins involved in professional sport all be it away from soccer, and what goes on behind the scenes and the difference in success and failure and what success and failure is.

If we are going to be so serious about it, yes we beat Grimsby you can only beat who turns up on the day and you can not alter what anybody else does on the pitch. A manager can't control his players he can only advise. Yes there can be many things to play for both as an individual and a team both intrinsic and extrinsic.

There are a variety of ways to mangage, you can be a dynamic leader, a dictator, a pacifist blah blah.

Every sportsman or woman needs targets, short term, long term and adaptable, Targets are pointless if they are not constantly assessed and reassessed. In order to have a target you must have a base line performance indicator to begin with and be aware of the performers limitations when setting the target, I.e it must be realistic and you mustn't get carried away.


Chill. I was just,what I thought was,politely disagreeing with your comment. It was nothing to do with ''not being in favour of the club''.The Grimsby match was basically a non event once we knew Braintree were leading.It was like somebody had @#$%& our balloon-everything was totally deflated. So we basically went through the motions for the rest of the game. But I still think that the Grimsby ''reserve'' players had something to play for.

The article in tonights Echo regarding ''stability at the club'' would sound sensible if it was stated as the view of somebody other than Brabin. To me he's just trying first and foremost to defend his own position

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
03/05/2016 20:22
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They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.

The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

Bloody Nora you literally can't say anything on here if it's not in favour of the club, all I said was let's not get carried away beating Grimsby reserves. Which is a more than fair comment.

I never mentioned penalties and things, as a matter of fact I've made many comments in defence of his Penos this year on other threads, I'm also more than quite aware personally of the fine margins involved in professional sport all be it away from soccer, and what goes on behind the scenes and the difference in success and failure and what success and failure is.

If we are going to be so serious about it, yes we beat Grimsby you can only beat who turns up on the day and you can not alter what anybody else does on the pitch. A manager can't control his players he can only advise. Yes there can be many things to play for both as an individual and a team both intrinsic and extrinsic.

There are a variety of ways to mangage, you can be a dynamic leader, a dictator, a pacifist blah blah.

Every sportsman or woman needs targets, short term, long term and adaptable, Targets are pointless if they are not constantly assessed and reassessed. In order to have a target you must have a base line performance indicator to begin with and be aware of the performers limitations when setting the target, I.e it must be realistic and you mustn't get carried away.


Chill. I was just,what I thought was,politely disagreeing with your comment. It was nothing to do with ''not being in favour of the club''.The Grimsby match was basically a non event once we knew Braintree were leading.It was like somebody had @#$%& our balloon-everything was totally deflated. So we basically went through the motions for the rest of the game. But I still think that the Grimsby ''reserve'' players had something to play for.

The article in tonights Echo regarding ''stability at the club'' would sound sensible if it was stated as the view of somebody other than Brabin. To me he's just trying first and foremost to defend his own position

Fair enough hoots. I really can't decide on Brabin, he says some good things and some complete bone head things, he does some good things and some complete bone head things. I'm not sure if stability is key, there's different thoughts on it but as you say if it came from someone other than him. I hear some good things about him as a bloke from people around the place. I prefer to think of him as Homer, not because he looks like Simpson senior, he does, but because I think he means well and deep down he knows the right thing he just doesn't seem to think before he speaks.

Just read the article, agree with him 100% he couldn't be more right, I've said similar myself on here, when was the last time we had a set of players that were Rovers players, and it's funny that all the goodens over the past 10 years have been on long term contracts, like Goody.



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03/05/2016 20:34
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They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.

The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

Bloody Nora you literally can't say anything on here if it's not in favour of the club, all I said was let's not get carried away beating Grimsby reserves. Which is a more than fair comment.

I never mentioned penalties and things, as a matter of fact I've made many comments in defence of his Penos this year on other threads, I'm also more than quite aware personally of the fine margins involved in professional sport all be it away from soccer, and what goes on behind the scenes and the difference in success and failure and what success and failure is.

If we are going to be so serious about it, yes we beat Grimsby you can only beat who turns up on the day and you can not alter what anybody else does on the pitch. A manager can't control his players he can only advise. Yes there can be many things to play for both as an individual and a team both intrinsic and extrinsic.

There are a variety of ways to mangage, you can be a dynamic leader, a dictator, a pacifist blah blah.

Every sportsman or woman needs targets, short term, long term and adaptable, Targets are pointless if they are not constantly assessed and reassessed. In order to have a target you must have a base line performance indicator to begin with and be aware of the performers limitations when setting the target, I.e it must be realistic and you mustn't get carried away.


Chill. I was just,what I thought was,politely disagreeing with your comment. It was nothing to do with ''not being in favour of the club''.The Grimsby match was basically a non event once we knew Braintree were leading.It was like somebody had @#$%& our balloon-everything was totally deflated. So we basically went through the motions for the rest of the game. But I still think that the Grimsby ''reserve'' players had something to play for.

The article in tonights Echo regarding ''stability at the club'' would sound sensible if it was stated as the view of somebody other than Brabin. To me he's just trying first and foremost to defend his own position

Fair enough hoots. I really can't decide on Brabin, he says some good things and some complete bone head things, he does some good things and some complete bone head things. I'm not sure if stability is key, there's different thoughts on it but as you say if it came from someone other than him. I hear some good things about him as a bloke from people around the place. I prefer to think of him as Homer, not because he looks like Simpson senior, he does, but because I think he means well and deep down he knows the right thing he just doesn't seem to think before he speaks.

I am going through one of those periods with Brabin where it almost feels like he's actively doing things to upset people like me [who haven't called for him to go] to turn us against him. He's making a fine job of it at the moment.

Higgosboots
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03/05/2016 21:04
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They DID have something to play for. This was their chance to impress their manager and to get a place in their playoff team. Also to show him that they are worth a new contract probably.

The standard of Norwood'S penalties have been top notch by and large. To say that they are not ''good goals'' is ludicrous.

Bloody Nora you literally can't say anything on here if it's not in favour of the club, all I said was let's not get carried away beating Grimsby reserves. Which is a more than fair comment.

I never mentioned penalties and things, as a matter of fact I've made many comments in defence of his Penos this year on other threads, I'm also more than quite aware personally of the fine margins involved in professional sport all be it away from soccer, and what goes on behind the scenes and the difference in success and failure and what success and failure is.

If we are going to be so serious about it, yes we beat Grimsby you can only beat who turns up on the day and you can not alter what anybody else does on the pitch. A manager can't control his players he can only advise. Yes there can be many things to play for both as an individual and a team both intrinsic and extrinsic.

There are a variety of ways to mangage, you can be a dynamic leader, a dictator, a pacifist blah blah.

Every sportsman or woman needs targets, short term, long term and adaptable, Targets are pointless if they are not constantly assessed and reassessed. In order to have a target you must have a base line performance indicator to begin with and be aware of the performers limitations when setting the target, I.e it must be realistic and you mustn't get carried away.


Chill. I was just,what I thought was,politely disagreeing with your comment. It was nothing to do with ''not being in favour of the club''.The Grimsby match was basically a non event once we knew Braintree were leading.It was like somebody had @#$%& our balloon-everything was totally deflated. So we basically went through the motions for the rest of the game. But I still think that the Grimsby ''reserve'' players had something to play for.

The article in tonights Echo regarding ''stability at the club'' would sound sensible if it was stated as the view of somebody other than Brabin. To me he's just trying first and foremost to defend his own position

Fair enough hoots. I really can't decide on Brabin, he says some good things and some complete bone head things, he does some good things and some complete bone head things. I'm not sure if stability is key, there's different thoughts on it but as you say if it came from someone other than him. I hear some good things about him as a bloke from people around the place. I prefer to think of him as Homer, not because he looks like Simpson senior, he does, but because I think he means well and deep down he knows the right thing he just doesn't seem to think before he speaks.

I am going through one of those periods with Brabin where it almost feels like he's actively doing things to upset people like me [who haven't called for him to go] to turn us against him. He's making a fine job of it at the moment.

I know what you mean, one week I loathe him the next I think he's great an in between I'm not bothered, he's certainly an odd one

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