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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:02:08:23:04:52 by Deadly Submarine.

I am gutted, because I really feel deep down that that game has killed us. I know some people will argue there are still enough games left but with two away games coming up I feel we will be cut adrift.

In my opinion we need at least 4 points from these two away games and that just aint going to happen.

Talking about the match today it was the same old story, we didn't score and hardly created anything. Curran was really abysmal, Gornell poor and we just never looked like scoring.

Only bright notes for me were Sordell when he came on (why didn't he start), and Barnett. I really feel that could be us as good as down now, today was a real chance to get out of it but we've blown it. Devestated.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:02:06:17:41:57 by Ricci.

Oh dear, that was a bit of a 'Ronnie Moore' result.

There are players in that team who just aren't good enough, especially in the striking department. We would have to do something totally unexpected now and win an away game, that is why i fear we are pretty much down.

Sordell looks to be the only hope.

Without him, our strikeforce is truly wretched. Gornell still has time to improve but he can't cut it at this level yet - Moore is weak in the air, has no pace, doesn't score and pretty much pointless.

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I am gutted, because I really feel deep down that that game has killed us. I know some people will argue there are still enough games left but with two away games coming up I feel we will be cut adrift.
In my opinion we need at least 4 points from these two away games and that just aint going to happen.

Talking about the match today it was the same old story, we didn't score and hardly created anything. Curran was really abysmal, Gornell poor and we just never looked like scoring.

Only bright notes for me were Sordell when he came on (why didn't he start), and Barnett. I really feel that could be us as good as down now, today was a real chance to get out of it but we've blown it. Devestated.

actually first half, I thought Curran did okay and looked quite lively, better than shuker anyway (although he improved 2nd half).

If Gillingham was on a saturday I would go because it's a big game. I can't remember the last time we won big game like this though, especially away from home on a tuesday night. Our lack of goals is going to mean relegation I'm afraid!

On another note why on earth did Les bring on Edds before Barnett or Mahon. Weird one that, my god this is depressing, league two starting to sink in.

yeah that was a bit of a puzzzle, assumed it was an injury so wanted a bit more like ffor like.

Curran or Cresswell were Man of the Match for me today.

Curran looked more of a threat than anyone else and Cresswell had a great game after coming back in.

As for the result it does look bad now but maoning won't help and we need to get behind the team to the end.

Edds is arguably our best midfielder and shouldn't even be on the bench so to bring him on first was spot on I thought.

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Deadly Submarine
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Have to agree to disagree there sub, Curran just runs with his head down, never looks up and runs down blind alleys, his finishing is terrible aswell. Creswell had a good first half but faded, and Edds is good at breaking down opposing teams' attacks, not going forward which is what we needed.

I will be behind them but I fear the reality of us not being good enough has hit home with a few fans after today.

Curran was more of a threat than anyone else today I thought.

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Deadly Submarine
Tranmere Rovers - Screwfix Masters Champions 2009!!

That was a truly awful performance today in a game we needed to pay at a high pace we were slow and aimless at times, we created very little as the midfield were hopeless and the attack was nearly as bad.
Curran is putting in the effort with little product gornell cannot lead the line and is very inefective moore not doing much and as for shuker how he played the whole game is amazing the same as mclaren.
A very big week now and weve got to win at least one of the games our things really are looking desperate.

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Curran was more of a threat than anyone else today I thought.

agreed

other than sordells little cameo anyway - I was surprised he came off as he was of a threat than shukes or ITM at that point.

I like how you delete my posts when I disagree with you sub

What's been deleted? Can you send me a PM mate?

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Deadly Submarine
Tranmere Rovers - Screwfix Masters Champions 2009!!

I think this is a wake up call. We have more or less been laboring under the idea that with grinding out results we would inexorably just pull out of the relegation zone and be ... ok in the end. This result is more the beginning than the end I think. If there is any character in the team and any courage to make changes then this is when it'll happen. Not panicking and certainly not just putting it down to a blip. it's not good enough to say "i had a feeling it wasn't going to be our day". The fight really starts here.

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I think this is a wake up call. We have more or less been laboring under the idea that with grinding out results we would inexorably just pull out of the relegation zone and be ... ok in the end. This result is more the beginning than the end I think. If there is any character in the team and any courage to make changes then this is when it'll happen. Not panicking and certainly not just putting it down to a blip. it's not good enough to say "i had a feeling it wasn't going to be our day". The fight really starts here.

Whilst I have preferred to take the view that it could indeed be the end, you make some great counter points which I can't argue with.

As I said yesterday though regardless of whether I think were doomed or not we have toget behind both Les and the players through till May.

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Deadly Submarine
Tranmere Rovers - Screwfix Masters Champions 2009!!

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If Gillingham was on a saturday I would go because it's a big game. I can't remember the last time we won big game like this though, especially away from home on a tuesday night. Our lack of goals is going to mean relegation I'm afraid!
On another note why on earth did Les bring on Edds before Barnett or Mahon. Weird one that, my god this is depressing, league two starting to sink in.

And there wont be any escape from it either.
I read on here of Parry saying he had an inkling of it ! What was that inlkling ? As far as I can see, he hasn't an inkling of anything.
What qualifies The Chief as a coach when he only led the line?
There is nobody there worth a light generally speaking
on or off the field.
WE couldn't beat Chester...who everyone can beat because they score.
And Parry on TV said his job was easy!!
He wants to get rid of his gut for starters.
Ithink this club is going where Johnson wants it.

There are loads of successful fat managers, it doesn't make a difference how fat they were. He's hardly got much of a gut anyway.

You're talking bollocks. Les has turned the team around and one result is just one result. It's a huge, huge blow, especially after the Charlton result, there's no doubt about that, but some of the negativity is ridiculous.

We are still well in it. Only three points behind with loads of games left and the likes of Gillingham and Orient still left to play.

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Bollocks gets through the language filter I notice lol!!

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Deadly Submarine
Tranmere Rovers - Screwfix Masters Champions 2009!!

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What qualifies The Chief as a coach when he only led the line?
WTF? This is the biggest load of bull ever written on this site. What qualifies ANYONE to be a coach then? There ****ing coaching badges, of which Chief is more qualified than 95% of people in our league I would imagine
There is nobody there worth a light generally speaking
on or off the field.
WE couldn't beat Chester...who everyone can beat because they score.
And Parry on TV said his job was easy!!
Again you've twisted his words. He said "It's easier than I thought it would be." So unless you know his expectations of the job how the **** do you know he thinks it's easy?

Every day you just post ~**** on here. You've never once posted any positive. It's been a hard season but yesterday was ONE defeat. We remain 3 points of safety with 18 games to go.

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Bollocks gets through the language filter I notice lol!!

court action by the Sex Pistols hurah !

I was bitterly dissapointed with yesterday mostly because we didn't seem to want it as much as oldham. For me as well, we weren't physical enough against them and where we have had success recently against teams that have allowed us to play football, we couldn't get started yesterday because they didn't let us. It took until barnett came on towards the end of the game to give them some of their own medicine and it was too late by then.

I don't think we have the players either for the fight. Yesterdays game was crying out for a bit of a muscle and we lacked it in massive proportions. As soon as McLaren got dumped on the floor after about 20 mins, he never reappeared and we were playing with 10 men. Our midfield just didn't cut it and no matter how good our defense is, if we can't score we haven't got a hope in hell.

Parry simply has to change this 433, we need more in midfield and we need sordell to start. The fact that barnett is sat on the bench still is criminal, he may have a stinky attitude but he is easily better than anyone else we have in midfield. McLaren needs to be dropped, he simply isn't good enough and as he showed from yesterdays game, he goes missing too much, isn't up to it and his set piece delivery is dreadful.

I was fairly confident before yesterday, but I am seriously worried that unless there is a change, we are going to struggle.

Fully agree with your first paragraph Matty. Also McLaren isn't and never will be good enough for this division - why Edds isn't playing we'll never know.

As for the 4-3-3 - we changed to 4-4-2 in the Yeovil game..

I still believe we can do it. Theres 18 games to go and we're 3 points of safety. Some of the negativity around at the moment, and the stick Les is getting is ridiculous. You can only work with the resources you're given and when you take over from two idiots who overspent our already small budget on rubbish like Ricketts, Carole, McLaren, Broomes and even gave a 3 year contract to an injury prone 33 year old (or whatever age he is) it was always gonna be tough for whoever took over. We have improved though and if we can stick the ball in the net I've no doubts we'll be fine.

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I definitely was not criticising Parry in anyway and I cannot understand why people do because the bottom line is he is a physio not a manager. He has worked wonders with the lets face it rubbish he has been left with. For us to be still in with a chance of making it out of relegation is a miracle in itself.

I was just very dissapointed yesterday that the majority of our players went missing. It was also a reality check for me because some of those players just aren't quite good enough even if they give 110% and there are those that we carry in games like Shuker and McLaren just because they might just do something when in reality they don't.

i also think it's worth pointing out here for all the criticism of our stirkers, what exactly are they being given to feed off. Absolutely nothing that's what. Our strikers are feeding of scraps so the chances they are getting are few and far between hence lack of confidence in front of goal. We desperately need some creativity in their and with Barnett and mahon on the bench and McLaren and Shuker playing, it doesn't make any sense.

I just think it's time to take some risks because it could be the difference between staying in league one or heading for league 2.

How far is Bas away from a comeback? I would love to see him and Sordell paired up.I know it's a long shot but it might bring a bit of excitement back and you never know.........

Well I'd bet my house Bas would be more useful right now than Ricketts ever was (and probably fitter) I'd guess we'll see him on the bench towards the end of this month.

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