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Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way

Ade opens up
By Boris Mellor April 14 2008
Considering the massive disappointment Wenger's team had suffered midweek this was a surprisingly good performance. Indeed at times they looked more like the Champions than United did. Ferguson was the first to admit his team had been outplayed, at times, and had gone through torture before finally winning, but win he did.

 The game was even more of a spectacle than the midweek one against Liverpool. As was the case at Anfield it was Arsenal that dominated most of the first half, although United had their shots too. Arsenal fans should take pride that the two most memorable games of the season, to date, have involved Arsenal. No doubt we would all rather have the silverware, but there are clubs out there which have spent more money, and play more parsimonious football that will be in the same situation.

However when Adebayor scored I couldn't help but feel we would concede in the next three minutes. When Man Utd equalised a mate told me I was wrong, it was 3 minutes 50 seconds, very funny. What Gallas was thinking I just don't know, perhaps it was Karma for his blaming inexperience at Anfield. Why did he do it? Whatever the reasons it set the scene for an inevitable United victory. Arsenal never gave up, but could not press home the advantage and for the first time this season I was really impressed by Bendtner.

Wenger's Way

In a general sense Arsenal were unlucky to lose, but Gallas's action was suicide. It is also interesting that Sky didn't replay Gilberto's alleged foul that led to the goal. Nonetheless the defending of the free kick was criminal, and no doubt will be shown on Aunties Bloomers for years to come.

Many Arsenal fans identify the lack of goals as the cause of Arsenal's recent decline, however to my mind defensive failure is a bigger cause. Since Sagna's injury the Gunners have conceded on average two goals a game. A team that desires trophies cannot afford such generosity in defence, a generosity that has led to only 12.5% in victories in the last eight Premiership games.

Blame Adebayor

Combined with the leaky defence, is a failure to kill off games, for on several occasions Arsenal have failed to score more than one. Yesterday Arsenal had as many chances as United, but only scored one goal. This has led fans to highlight Adebayor's misses. It is argued that he is not good enough to be an Arsenal striker, even though he has scored twenty goals in the Premiership, and three goals at the most important stage of the Champions league.

 Was he any better or worse than Rooney yesterday? Rooney's shots went wide too, but I doubt if I will read United websites slagging him off. Indeed Man U, for all their firepower, did not score in open play. Yes we were all disappointed that he didn't score more yesterday, he had four chances, so I suppose he should have scored them all.

Firing Blanks

How about some disappointment that Hleb, Fabregas, RvP, Gilberto etc did not score? The burden placed on Adebayor's shoulders will become unbearable. A year ago he scored at Old Trafford, the defence held firm and we won 1-0, and he was the hero. This time he scored and the defence fluffed it, as Adebayor said after the match if they could have held firm for ten minutes the second goal might have come.

Arsenal's second biggest problem is not the failure of Ade to score, but that the midfielders are failing to score. Arsenal's successful period was based on the fact that Fabregas, Flamini, and Hleb were all scoring, that rarely, if ever, occurs in the league now. At least Fabregas makes a serious effort to score, but Hleb, as magnificent as he is, has given up on the idea.

One Man Band

Not only does the midfield not score, but the second striker, or advance midfielders rarely score either. Ade's most prolific period was his partnership with Eduardo. Unfortunately RvP has proven to be too rusty to replace him at a key period. Football is about partnerships, and Adebayor has rarely had the same strike partner two games running. He rarely has the same partner over 90 minutes.

New Strikers?

Wenger will do it his way, it is unlikely he will buy new strikers; as far as he is concerned RvP and Eduardo would have delivered another 20 goals between them, if not for injury. The day that Walcott will become part of the strike force also beckons. Any new striker would have to displace one of these three, and that is without taking Ade and Nick into contention.

Depth of Squad?

Wenger claims he only needs one extra experienced player, however that is before he knows who is leaving. Will Flamini and Hleb stay? Is the replacement for Gilberto? Will Lehmann survive another year?

Wenger Only Has One Song

And that Song is my way. Wenger was derided by fans for playing Song at Fulham, Arsene bided his time and shocked everyone by reintroducing him in the biggest match of the season, and the boy didn't do bad. More than that it convinced Wenger he can grow his own.

Wenger believed this squad was good enough, except for injuries and bad luck. After all who talks about Djourou these days? Brought back from  loan only to be injured when needed.

Wenger will try it his way again next season, if that fails he might have to reconsider. However when it is considered that the Man U eleven cost three times the Arsenal eleven in yesterday's match then maybe he has a case. If he doesn't then it will be a sad day for football.

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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: nis (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:13:43:33

maybe clichy should of kicked some ad boards when gallas conceded the penalty.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Mr Unknown (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:14:11:34

Get a shot of Adebayor and break the bank for someone who can actually take their chances!!!! lol his first touch, decision making and finishing are so frustrating its ridiculous!!!!

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:14:44:59

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nis
maybe clichy should of kicked some ad boards when gallas conceded the penalty.
(Sm6)

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: FAB #4 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:16:09:52

This rethoric thing of "teams who have spent three times than Arsenal" should cease. There is no way you can now prove that its working. Its time we hit the nail on the head and say wenger has failled in his duty. For those who go to church-(Sorry Bwana wenger), will confess that those merchants who were give dinnas by their boss, some of them invested them, but that one stupid a*s who never, he was punished and his dinna taken away.That is the case at Arsenal right now. Am not preaching, Henry complained of it, Dein talked of it, Bundits have, and fans in general. We like Arsenal and we take it as our company we have invested shares in, and if the is not used in other investents, then sorry Padre, dont support the out of date principle of Wenger- he is ancient. He has to change with time and realize that time now is hard and other than entertaiment, people need to stand up and say we have this!

Am going on hibernation for sometime now, Although I love Arsenal sometimes it hurts me.....

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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:16:15:26

Fab 4. wtf?.....
dont support the out of date principle of Wenger- he is ancient. He has to change with time and realize that time now is hard and other than entertaiment, people need to stand up and say we have this!


That'd explain why Chelski win titles and still can't fill their stadium, while we haven't won a bean for 3 years and sell out every game. Sort your life out. Wengers ethos will prevail. Just gotta keep the faith. Remember, we weren't even supposed to be in the top 4 this year. But we've been challenging for the title instead. Don't buy into the hype mate.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: FAB #4 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:16:59:40

Is this your motivation Philly? That we were not supposed to be in the top four and now we are? Is that the target we are beating to reach? Is that what we want to be having every year in and every year out? Like we write: ' WE ARE IN THE TOP FOUR SO WHAT?"

Philly I have never been a critic of wenger, but the ancient ways of manging are done. Our best players to perform need to have some break, they need to have some rest in some games and the others take over. Think like this Phily, Ade, scores 1 chance of the 10 created in a game, but what happens if he is removed from the team? you know better.... Without Fabregas, our team lookd dislocated, weather is perfoming or not. Those are my stand. We need backup experiance players who can perfom when the going gets tough, who can manage dejections.

Really, do you want to tell me, if we play entertaining matches for the next two seasons without a real trophy our stadium will be full all games the next season? I dont think so, because our anchores in entainment will be fished into other clubs with trophy winning mentality and we remain naturing club or feeder club as it is.

And by the way I dont support the way Chelsea win titles, I they win agly but manu somehow they manage both. They can buy expensively and they can entertain Chelsea can only buy expensively. I dont advocate for that.

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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:17:10:59

DOn't get me wrong Fabs, i agree with a lot of what you're saying. But there are only a few players on the planet that could actually improve our side AND fit in. I would love nothing more than to see us buy Kaka this summer. But the fact is, players of his calibre usually get tied down to clubs, because no-one wants to lose their best performers, so AW doesn't always get the opportunity to 'improve' our squad.
I understand what you're saying, totally. Ade was sooooo wasteful yesterday, it hurt me as much as anyone, and we could have won the game had he played to his best form, but he didn't. @#$%& happens.
I'm not saying i aspire to be a top 4 club. But team arsenal (whatever mark merl' is on at the moment) is AHEAD of schedule. Wenger has never said he won't pay out for top players. He just won't do it unless it suits all his requirements (that includes the safe keeping of funds for emergencys). And lets face it, in Jan we were top of the league and looking good, no need to spend big, then lo' and beold, the squad started dropping like flies. No-one could have foreseen that.
I guess, to summarize, i just believe in what AW is/was doing. And i don't see anyone else that could do better.
And, if we carry on playing the football we play, then yes I can imagine our stadium is going to be full, you'd be amazed how many people GO TO BE ENTERTAINED!!! We're not all gloryhunters!! Shiiiit, even Pele makes an effort to watch us. If it's good enough for him, it's certainly good enough for us mere mortals!!

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:17:53:36

Wenger beleives the team is just about there, if he cannot win anything next year then he will have to reconsider his strategy.
I think he should be given the chance to try it, it is a 5 year project, cant be judged over a couple of seasons

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: FAB #4 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:18:12:33

It may be too late fo him Padre, as it standds he has a very good project, i admire it, but what happens to fans who are not your type or my type? They cannot wait all that long before saying Wenger out and then there will be all those discomforts and i told you so's. Otherwise hope is the only thing left now for the next 12 months.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:14:18:14:28

Guys, guys, don't you lsiten to Wenegrese?

Don't trust Wenger a she knew he got to buy experience now.

And try to read between the lines.
If he can find an affordable players that will improve the squad and isa vailable, he will buy.
And if there are 2, 3 or 4 available, at the right price and is what he needs, he will buy them.

The key is AVAILABILITY.

he said ONE EXPERIENCED PLAYER jsut to elt the AMrket knows that he will not pay for over-priced palyers just ebcause Arsenal made an approach or Real, BArca, MAnLeeds, Chelski, etc.

He knew who he will buy and is only abidding his time till August.

A meticulous man liek Wenegr will leave nothing to chance and certainly may even had begun secret negotiations for teh players he wanted.....

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: kamilmus (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:11:26:19

If these "fans" cannot wait that long, and want to stop supporting Arsenal, then I say so be it. They should support Man U band of "I know nothing much about football, but I hear Man United is the cool club" band of glory hunters.

I don't even join my local Arsenal fan club because I'm not convinced they are true Arsenal supporters, and I don't want to be around people who just recently supported Arsenal because of Henry's good looks, or even our unbeaten season. True fans have the club in their blood, in their soul. I have supported Arsenal for almost 3 decades, and we didn't win all the time, now did we??

And I agree with Philly and Padre, this team is ahead of schedule. I share Fab4's frustrations though, and I hope Arsene will fill in the missing pieces as he is intelligent enough to know the areas we are lacking in - a great, dominant, experienced CB and on the wings.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:11:42:55

Spot on Kamilius - its good to hear from another longterm supporter. There too many glory hunters on the bandwaggon.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: perrygroves (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:12:00:03

the problem is we are so close...i.e top of the league for a long stretch...come so close in games...blow chances....its torture for fans....if Arsene does'nt fix the obvious problems....a striker who can put the ball in the net from all the chances our midfield make.....I mean a David Villa or Benzema.......RvP/Ade/Nic B and even Eduardo are just not (yet) of the highest quality of the likes of Torres/Drogba even Ronaldo.who will take half chances 80% of the time.....(Chelsea or United will sign one them if we dont)....a horse of a centre back to cover if Gallas and Toure lack form, on they're day they a rock solid....and a natural left winger who can score..a la Ribery or Modric...this was always part of Wegners winning teams....strike runners like Overmars or Pires and freddie. When things are tight these are the players that can unlock defenses. We also need cover for Cesc......that can be solved by getting Rosicky fit (cough..cough) and playing him that role for a spell and giving Cesc a well earned rest.

These are OBVIOUS holes in our team and Wegner HAS TO, HAS TO address them,,,, WE ARE NOT POOR, WE HAVE MONEY...its time to bring in some quailty, ready made out of the box players...even for the fans and players a few quality faces would do them no end of good. 3-4 quality signings would mend a lot of holes.

Ferguson realised it and SPENT and IMO thats what won them the league...the reserve quality of Anderson, Hargreaves, Nani, Tevez....WE DON'T HAVE THAT...and if Arsene does'nt address this then it bordering on a derilication of duty...he is smart and intelligent but its time to do the obvious...

When chelsea arrived the rules changed..WE HAVE TO TOO.looks at the points tally it takes to win a premiership....its due to the the deep squad like Chelsea and United....that what its takes now to keep a high level all season...You need both for a crack at the Cl and the league....see the defiencies in both ours and Liverpools squads...they cant challenge for the league as Benetiz priorities Europe...Wegner tries both but we came up short...players on their last legs and noticeably tired. Dare I say it...you can see the method in Deins madness in trying to entice funds to Arsenal...he does'nt want us left behind.....my view....not to the extremes of Deins vision but some prudent investment is needed...the child in me just want us to sign a big player...just a buzz to get me through the summer



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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:12:33:25

agreed perry, 100%.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: zombiez (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:15:49:24

AW may have start his negotiations with the player he wants now but somehow when its being leaked out, the negotiations stalled and the player might have chosen another club to go to. Thats the story of transfers we've heard for the past seasons.

It does hurt me to see Arsenal lost. It does hurt me to see the strikers fail to score golden opportunities in games. It does hurt me to see the defence conceding goals. It does hurt me to see the midfield players performing below par. I slay at our own players, I vent my anger, I gave my views on the team and players if they did great or bad. But at the end of the day, I still LOVE Arsenal. I love the club and that is all that matters.

-Wenger Genius-

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Zainy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:16:14:57

What everyone is missing is that the only reason we now have money to spend and are in no danger of going into administration is because of Wengers decision to both take responsibility for the long term future of the club and to try and create a team we can all be proud of.
Wenger has won us 3 titles and kept us in the top 2 for 8 of the last 10 seasons. He has bought well in the market and played a big part in us moving to a great new stadium. He has changed the way the entire league trains their players- with science and healthy living.
His ways are far from 'ancient' and his foresight is something to be admired. No one is without fault but to now say that spending millions every season was the only way we would have reversed the last 2 seasons 'failures' is quite simply shortsighted. Sure we need to invest to strengthen our squad but there is no single formula to success and think if we spend we will automatically compete is folly.
Investment comes in various forms thus to claim Wenger has not invested can only come from someone who has not fthought long enough about the career of Arsene and AFC. Pumping 50 million into a few players is not a guaranteed investment, its got a similar chance of gaining good returns as that of spending half that amount on 10 or so promising youngsters- sure not all of them will make it but given the right nuturing we only need a small number of them to realise their full potential.
Only one team can triumph and there are other hungry teams around us and we have no god given right to claim the EPL.
When we finish mid table and play football like pool or bolton then i will concede that something is awry.
We will improve. We will strengthen. We will be better next season. Faith.



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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:17:40:19

agreed 100% with Zombs and Zainy. Spot on.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:15:20:01:38

Yeah, I totally agree with perrygroves, zombiez and Zainy.

Spot on.



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Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: perrygroves (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:16:09:26:12

Zainy I agree with the sentiment but it obvious the lack of quality at the end of season was our undoing....look at what Fergie has done....that is a winning formula....the rules have changed...but we are SO SO close....

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:16:09:57:12

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Padre Pio
Spot on Kamilius - its good to hear from another longterm supporter. There too many glory hunters on the bandwaggon.

This glory hunter am getting off da Arsenal Glory Bandwagon and jumped onto 2008/09 Arsene Wenger's Glory Train....(Sm6)

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Zainy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:16:11:47:06

I think if Wenger signs Villa it will send out a positive message to everyone. It will keep the fans clammering for a big name signing happy, and it will keep Ade's ego in check and create much needed competition in the side.
Whats a little more concerning is our midfielders are all being targeted by the big guys round europe. Cesc is going to be courted by Barce and Real (milan screwed it up for themselves by not qualifying for ECL - or at least they need a great last few games to get 4th)
Hleb is now being tracked by Barce, Real and Juve. I would see Barce win this especially is Ronaldinho is sold. and the on going saga of Flamini.
One of them is bound to go. My money is on Flams atm. I doubt Cesc will leave and Hleb is prob 60-40 on staying.

Re: Song Confirms Wenger Will Do It His Way
Posted by: Philly the kid (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:04:16:14:17:51

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Padre Pio
Spot on Kamilius - its good to hear from another longterm supporter. There too many glory hunters on the bandwaggon.

This glory hunter am getting off da Arsenal Glory Bandwagon and jumped onto 2008/09 Arsene Wenger's Glory Train....(Sm6)

All change.......http://planetsmilies.net/machine-smiley-7598.gif
Couldn't find a train, so i thought a tank would be the next most appropriate smoking smiley

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