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Was Almost Losing Interest?


By Dave Thomas
March 26 2012

It must be end of season. It must be the end of any lingering play-off aspirations. It must have been another game where the general verdict was ‘stinker.’ But I saw the 0 – 0 score at Cardiff come in and thought so what, ‘thank God we didn’t go’. A beautiful spring day was better spent in the garden clearing the area round by the pond and deciding which fences and benches and tables needed painting again … not to mention the shed and the decking. Sometimes I wish it was all concrete and rustic flagstones but then she-who-must-be-obeyed soon nips that in the bud. It’s like painting the Forth Bridge.

 But for the life of me I couldn’t see where this bunch of players (if these are our hopes for next season), will end up. Young Master Eddie said before the game he still had faith in them. I’m afraid I didn’t. If these were the lads being groomed to take the division by storm next season, I just couldn’t see it. I looked at Blackpool and their canny fox, Ian Holloway, and thought surely that should be us. I saw the last two years since the defector left, as a wasted two years.

 

   Nervous Burnley fans watch the action during the matchYoung Master Eddie certainly talks the talk in his measured, quiet, beguiling way. He was at it again after the defeat at Ipswich. If ever a game was a banker cert home win then this was it. It was a game when Burnley had not one shot on target. They had the grand total of two in the whole 90 minutes. The patience awarded to him continues to be enormous. If this was Cotterill the calls for his head would be widespread.  If this was Laws they would be deafening. My only explanation is that we have been brainwashed into believing that we must not expect too much; brainwashed into believing that there is no money, conditioned over the last 15 months into believing the spin about transition and change. But that’s the problem, it’s been 15 months.

 

    But for the life of me I couldn’t see any progress whatsoever in the last 15 months. Even with a player exodus the wage bill is still up at 12 and a half million. It cannot remain that high so cuts will be made and sales will take place.  We can assume that the likes of Stanislas, Treacey, Trippier and Mee are on good money. We know that this bill has to come down to a more manageable £8million or thereabouts. That means there will be no influx of good players in the summer and more likely than not, Rodriguez will have to go.  

 

     That means that next season will be a repeat of this one; a season of struggle and averageness.      Unless… unless… by some miracle some of the current youth team can step up a level, and are ready for a run in the first team.  We’ll find out soon enough.

 

    The mood was not improved by the guff I read from Henry Winter about Owen Coyle in the Daily Telegraph. There’s no question that Henry Winter is a superbly gifted football writer, maybe the best around. He was correct to write about the impressive way that Coyle faced the media after the near death experience of his player Patrice Muamba on the field of play at Tottenham.

 

    Muamba’s collapse and subsequent battle for survival gripped us all, presumably because we saw it happen and shared the moment so that it was immediate and real and personal. We therefore followed his progress in the hospital fighting for his life as if he was one of our own. It’s one of the quirks of human nature that we sat glued to news of his progress for days. We were also hugely saddened by the deaths of 6 British soldiers in one incident. The coverage of the cortege of 6 hearses was heart-rending.help for heores.jpgBut for that there was no happy ending. Was the attention focused on Muamba the greater because there was a battle for survival that he might win that had us on the edge of our seats– just like the Chilean miners? People pick tragedies and disasters to follow with incessant regularity and for emotional not logical reasons. The death of 6 serving soldiers in the hell-hole of Afghanistan was the greater tragedy, the event that was the more harrowing. But their deaths were simply added to the list of others and generated far fewer media pages.  Was it because these soldiers were ordinary and basically anonymous – but a Premier footballer has a celebrity status that immediately makes the media deem it more newsworthy?

 

         And Coyle was impressive too; immaculate, articulate, and passionate about his player. Winter wrote about all this, but then got carried away into areas that made Burnley fans cringe. It was the bit about, “This is a man of principle, a figure who inspires trust among his players.” It left me open-mouthed and piqued. Coyle was made for this moment said the title. If he was talking about the moment or moments in front of the ranks and rows and rows of cameras, then indeed he was. Phil Gartside got a passing mention as well. No one knows if there was collusion behind the scenes before his move to Bolton actually took place. If there was; then one day it will inevitably come out into the open. These things always do. And probably no-one outside of Burnley will care one jot.

 

        Two days later Winter was at it again in another Telegraph full-pager, another homage-to-the-great-man piece. It struck me that there was some major sucking up going on.        After the Ipswich defeat (just two shots in 90m minutes and neither on target, a sorry statistic) Manager Howe cleared the decks. Out on loan went Bikey/Amougou to Bristol City. Out went Treacy to Sheffield Wednesday. Out went Hines to Bournemouth. It was a sad reflection of two things. Firstly there was Howe’s inability to coax Bikey from his apathy and torpor. There’s either a tremendous player there when motivated, fit and trim, or more possibly one that reached his peak at Reading and we saw only the back end of him. Secondly Hines and Treacy being sent out is a reflection of wasted money. Hines has barely figured. Just why was he brought in the first place? Treacy has been one of the poorest signings for years.

      We wondered if any of the youth team would get a first-team appearance this season as it wound down to its predictable tame ending. They came away from Rovers with a chance of pulling off a win in the second-leg. They trailed by just 1 – 0 as they came off the field having received a real battering by all accounts from the bigger and certainly more physical Blackburn hoofers. Reports say it was football versus brawn, that after a timid first half Burnley were well back in it in the second half. By all accounts Rovers demonstrated all that was cynical in the modern game – and dear God these lads are only 18. Over 10,000 people there with more than 3,000 from Burnley.

      My pal Tim Quelch sent me an email that made me smile:

      “Went to Ewood last night; our lads put up a hell of a fight though outmuscled by a much bigger side. Still in it though; need to make sure BRFC don’t score early at TM. They will be able to sit on a two-goal lead with comfort. Our lads were just bouncing off them. But our boys carved out a few chances.

        “Came back on the train with the “Suicide Squad” and a huge police presence.  Jesus! This was only a youth team game.

    

      Talk about back to the seventies. Nice littler tension breaker on the way home. The Colne Express was only the two-coach effort so it was an almighty squeeze on board with these big beefy coppers all over the shop. Among the police presence was an attractive police-woman. She like her colleagues was grim-faced, jaws clamped. She saw this BFC bloke staring at her and aggressively demanded, “What are you looking at?”

 

     “You,” he replied quick as a flash. “You look really fit.” Immediately the edgy mood was broken – smirks all round.     My mate was quite intimidated by the whole experience. I was intrigued. It’s a long time since I have been so close to some real hard types. I couldn’t help wondering what sort of home they were going back to. What tomorrow would bring? Hey ho.      And I had a smashing steak pudding, amazing chips, fabulous mushy peas and divine gravy in a Blackburn chippy; all in all a good night out.”

 

     It’s certainly the exploits of the youth team that kept the season interesting going. Regarding the rest of the season; by now we’d have planned on going to the Portsmouth game and staying with Mrs T’s sister in Sussex only 20 miles or so away. Southampton and Portsmouth games we have always been to for some years. We decided not to this time. Not that long ago we’d planned to get Blackpool tickets. We decided not to.

 

       And so to the home game against West Ham. What an afternoon it was down there in London with that unexpected win. The West Ham rank and file are restless. Boos ring round the ground now after most home games. The West School of Soccer Science is no more. This is Allardyce football. It sure ain’t pretty and only has its admirers if there is a win. He was wooed by Brendan Flood when Brian Laws was dismissed. How would we have reacted? Easy – you sing if you’re winning.

 

      So it was hello to the odious Nolan on a most beautiful spring day. I was still miffed at the Budget measures. Increases in tax allowances don’t come into force until April 1913. There’s VAT now on a Gregg’s sausage roll. Average petrol now is £1.40 a litre – another reason for not going to Portsmouth. A bus driver sacked because he ate a grape while sitting in his empty stationary bus.  

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     You couldn’t help but expect a West Ham win. But in an edgy, action-packed game that was worth the admission money, it ended 2 – 2. Somehow Burnley fashioned a most unexpected 2 – 0 lead despite West Ham wasting good chances at the other end and having had a goal disallowed for reasons that I couldn’t see having seen the replays. There were times when the Burnley goal had a charmed a life. Carlton Cole missed from three feet – nothing new there then. Grant was in good form.  The football was slick from Burnley in the first period and leaden from the other lot but the West Ham style – get it in the box, was effective. Until Duff contrived to give away as soft a goal as you’ll see, Burnley looked sure winners. Dithering, hesitation, the ball bounced over Duff, Grant presumably didn’t call that Nolan was lurking. The lob was precise. Their second goal was only a minute later. Awful marking from a free-kick flick-on allowed the scorer all the time in the world to stroke the ball into the corner.

 

        From then on it was pretty much backs to the wall stuff and West Ham in truth could have had two or three more. Allardyce fumed and couldn’t believe they hadn’t won. For us it was par for the course stuff with two soft goals conceded, albeit more exciting than other games of late. But it was another game without a win. Without that good spell pre-Christmas where would we have been.

 

        This is a far better, stronger team with Bartley added to McCann and Marney in midfield and just the one wide player. But how fit were they? Several of them looked done in long before the end. The weaknesses in this game were in the centre of the defence. Bartley stormed up and down and added muscle and brute force. The sunshine was beautiful. The queues at the ticket office were lengthy, presumably for the youth semi-final. After this cracking game I didn’t feel quite so morose. But the brittleness remains and I saw nothing to convince me that next season will be any better.

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.........Losing Interest?
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Date: 26/03/2012 12:39

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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: vinnicombe (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 13:34

I stopped reading after it started going on about people would be calling for his head if it was Laws or Cotterill.
No mention of the forced losses of Mears, Fox, Cork, Elliott and Eagles from last years team. Maybe people are taking this into account?
The patronising "young Master Eddie" does not add much either.

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 13:36

Now now young master Vinnicombe, don't be so hasty.



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 13:37

Good stuff Dave, as usual.thumbs down

Just one thing I'd take issue with, and I've seen it from several people, the Youth Cup match and the reference to Blackburn as 'hoofers'.

They were certainly bigger than us, stronger and quicker as well. They were very 'professional', we took a battering off them, all that is true. But to claim our eleven footballers were simply kicked off the park by a team of bullying cloggers isn't exactly the whole story. This Blackburn team can play as well, they've not got academy status for nothing and, I believe, one of them has played in the PL already.

They're a far better football team than anyone has yet given them credit for, me apart.(Sm14) Anyway, we'll all be able to make our own minds up on Wednesday, I just hope I'm wrong about them.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 13:44

Youth Cup Game - view from't other side

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Although any win over the old enemy is something to savour, the truth of the matter is that this was very much an under-par performance from Rovers’ youngsters. How much that was due to nerves on the night or the quality of the opposition is open to question. Undoubtedly, as Terry McPhillips admitted after the match, only Adam Henley had sampled the type of atmosphere that was generated by a crowd of 10,000 fiercely partisan fans.
Sadly, too many of the mainstays of the Rovers side had a difficult night. Jack O’Connell, recently capped by England at Under-18 level, ended a frustrating night by being shown a red card for a second bookable offence. Hugo Fernandez and John O’Sullivan, so often the lynchpins in midfield, were practically invisible for much of the game, while Curtis Haley struggled to make much impact up front.

On the plus side Osayamen Osawe again looked impressive with his direct running on both flanks, while Raheem Hanley was an industrious worker in midfield and came up with the only goal of the game.

As the Rovers struggled to impose themselves on Burnley, it again begged the question of just how much difference there is between Academy teams and the best of the rest. On the evidence of this performance, Burnley look to have assembled a decent set of lads who looked every bit as good as the teams that the Rovers play on a regular basis in the Academy League.

The Rovers, missing Robbie Cotton through illness, attacked the Darwen End in the first half and generally had the better of the play without creating too many clear-cut chances. The best moments all originated from the pace of Osawe, who continually switched wings and troubled the visiting defence with his pace and power. Ironically, the first real chance of the game fell to the Rovers winger, but sadly he completely missed his kick in front of goal.

However, another blistering run by Osawe on 24 minutes enabled him to pull the ball back for Haley, who inexplicably fired well over from a decent position.

Burnley, whilst neat and tidy in possession, seemed content to sit back and try to hit the Rovers on the break. Their first real opportunity came when Steven Hewitt, their playmaker in chief, sent in a long-range dipping effort which sailed over the bar.

The only goal of the game came on 33 minutes when Hanley rose to meet a perfect ball in from Osawe and his deft glancing header found the far corner of the net.

The visitors attempted to rally just before the break and it was during one of their raids that O’Connell found his way into the referee’s notebook.

The second half brought something of a transformation with Burnley looking the better side and the Rovers struggling to get any momentum with too many passes going astray. Burnley had a couple a decent chances that went narrowly wide, while the Rovers were reduced to hitting the long ball in search of Haley and Osawe. Indeed, Osawe, who had provided the main threat during the first half, struggled to get into the game as the Rovers seemed unable to find him with any accurate service.

The Rovers’ main threat came from the long throw-ins of Hanley and from set-pieces and it was from a Hanley throw that Haley’s headed attempt was deflected onto the bar before ‘keeper Josh Cook collected the follow-up effort from Ryan Edwards.

Hanley, who caught the eye with his non-stop running in midfield, was played in down the left with a super ball from Fernandez and duly delivered the perfect cross to the back post, but unfortunately Osawe could only head his effort into the ground and watch it bounce over the bar.

With twelve minutes remaining, the Rovers were reduced to ten men when O’Connell made a rash challenge in the centre of midfield and rightly received a second yellow card. His departure not only put the Rovers under pressure for the final stages of this game but his absence in the return leg at Burnley next week is going to be a major handicap; so much of the success this season has been built on the Edwards–O’Connell partnership in the centre of defence. Fernandez, who is no stranger to centre-back, dropped in alongside Edwards for the remainder of the match and although the visitors pressed with increased intensity, the Rovers held firm.

Whilst a 1-0 lead is welcome, there is no doubt that the Rovers will have to improve in all areas if they are to progress to the final. On the evidence of this game, one suspects that the Clarets will fancy their chances of causing an upset and reaching the final themselves.

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"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 15:10

Fair report that, where did you find it Longsiders, on their website ?



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: dandeclaret (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 15:50

A very fair report that longsiders, and was pretty much how I saw the game too.

As for Davet's report, I too stopped reading it pretty early. It might just be easier to write a few words along the lines of "I still don't like Eddie Howe" - would save bandwidth and time.

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: ManHug (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 16:53

Hes right though, the signing are in the main, poor and weak...and he's blasted his way through £5M or so in his first twelve months.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: dandeclaret (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 17:25

Depending on which transfer fees you believe of course.

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Golazzo (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 18:06

Eddie Howe the failure



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: ManHug (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 18:58

So far Golly but I'm willing to give time yet, id have given the last manager more time what with us being on course for play offs. Wheather the new Chairman will be as patient as me is another thing - Eddie certainly ain't safe going off his record so far.
We missed out on Warnock in Jan 2010 and we missed out when he was sacked a few months ago.

IF he signs more of these lightweight, powderpuff players that we've been seeing then were down next Season - if he signs 2 or 3 proper, experienced lads to compliment what we have (a Shaun Derry and his equivalent at centre half would be bang on) then he may stand a chance and keep his job.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 19:52

Got it from their fan site, brfcs.co.uk



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: soapylily (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 20:09

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bordeauxclaret
Good stuff Dave, as usual.thumbs down
Just one thing I'd take issue with, and I've seen it from several people, the Youth Cup match and the reference to Blackburn as 'hoofers'. But to claim our eleven footballers were simply kicked off the park by a team of bullying cloggers isn't exactly the whole story.

Its not what is accurate BC, its what the Longside public want to read. (Sm63) Although shocking to see that DT has detractors like Vinnicombe and Dande - perhaps DT is becoming a bit like Henry Winter, giving his readers what he thinks they want/ought to hear. (Sm156)

The title 'Losing Interest' is spot on. It shows I think the season is over/dead/expired as my interest was most taken by DT having a pond. How big is it? How many fish and what type? Does he get many frogs? How does he cope with Herons etc. I have kept an old bath from our renovations and it may be destined to become a sort of pond in the not to distant future.
I just hope we get a win against Brighton as its the only game I'll see in a while. For fans it is all about winning and West Ham fans dont seem to mind how. I'd be blowing bubbles if Eddie got the results too and I wouldn't mind how he got them!



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Dave Thomas (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 20:31

specially for Soapy

the pond is about 12 feet long and 5 across with different levels and ledges.

There are lots of plants and a filter and a waterfall.

The frogs are out and about croaking and spawning.

They drive the cat crazy and keep us awake at night.

Foxes come at night and have a slurp and then bark and wake us up.

herons are shot, I don't mess about.

We had 11 fish some quite big before the winter... and now there are three left... so we buy more each late spring.

We sat there today with a our drinkie poos and nibbles in the lovely sunshine.

Pond has decking round two sides and a steep earth bank on the other filled with greenery, and at the remaining end a wet area and various birdie things... including a large plastic heron that attracts other herons that I can then shoot.

It was grand sitting there today writing my diary, taking a spot of luncheon... and pondering the relative merits of Cotterill, Coyle, Laws and Howe... and thinking wouldn't it be just grand if the young 'uns won on Wednesday.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: soapylily (IP Logged)
Date: 26/03/2012 21:02

Dave, wonderful images, thank you. You've got fewer fish than the state labor party in Queensland have seats! My last pond can be seen at:
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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: pipindripin (IP Logged)
Date: 28/03/2012 16:01

Why did we not get big Sam when he was available ?

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
Date: 28/03/2012 16:46

He didn't want to be a big fish in a little pond.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Mauritius Claret (IP Logged)
Date: 28/03/2012 17:41

I am a life long Burnley fan . the story started in 1954 . i follow burnley with passion and always hope that there will be a better future some day .

Unfortunately that active passion for the club is gradually waning . The performance of the club is becoming from bad to worse . I fear that we fall in the relegation zone .

People speak very loftily of our p[atron saint who is no other than Eddir Howe .there are many questions that remain to be posed .
1. Is he too young and inexperienced to lead a Championship club?
2.Has he wisely invested on acquiring new players ?
3.Has he not disposed of some of his experienced players ?
4.Is he aware the deep frustrations of majority of fans?
5.Now that he may choose from some of his versatile young players ,will he let some to greater clubs ?

i still have some iota of trusts on him . Give him one more season . If he can impress the club ,then he has to make room to some others who has the needed experience of premiership clubs/Decisions should never be intermingled with compassion .

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: vinnicombe (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2012 03:30

I suppose one way of keeping the interest up is scoring five away from home?
Should 'young Master Eddie' take credit for this?

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Dave Thomas (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2012 07:49

Vinni... football (and being a supporter) is all about being up one minute and down the next...

what I write is only a blog and they are as up and down as any mood... I write them for fun... better than painting garden fences... I never expect anyone to take them seriously...

the next one is called Proud to be a Claret... its only half done and covers the fabulous youth cup night... and Portsmouth...

Portsmouth is a game and weekend we don't usually miss cos Mrs T sister lives down there... and the one year we don't go...

Well done young Master Eddie

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Dave Thomas (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2012 08:19

And then a win on Tuesday night...and then a win on Friday... and oh Gawd we're knocking at the top end again...

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: vinnicombe (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2012 10:04

I wonder if there will be any reference to the amount of cash Blackburn have spent on the youth team in comparison to ours?

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: soapylily (IP Logged)
Date: 01/04/2012 10:27

Watched Moneyball on the plane yesterday - great movie about Billy Beane who (temporarily) transformed the Oakland A's baseball team by buying players and using them based purely on their statistical records (because they had to sell to survive) and saving a fortune along the way for the owners. It strikes me there is a very fine line between success and failure in professional sport and if you 'have an edge' for a while with a new approach then you wont have it for long.
Billy Beane is still there ten plus years down the line, having turned down a huge (12.5million a year) offer from the Boston Red Sox and the Oakland A's are back where they used to be. I dont see BFC ever getting back to the heights Harry Potts once took them unless they are lucky enough to trip over the new Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson and even then how could they keep hold of them? In the meantime fingers crossed that Eddie can take us back to the promised land in the not too distant future with no money and no 'edge' over the competition....

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: ManHug (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 07:10

From what I saw, heard and gather the opening two goals on Sat were crackers in what was probably a competitive game

The last 3 goals (all Austin) looked a screamed of being against a side in big bother that had actually thrown the towel in. I'd imagine it we'd had played another 10 mins it would have been 8 1 without any effort.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: paddy claret (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 10:48

They don't matter then?
If we had got beat 5-1 in the same circumstance I doubt you would be singing the same tune.
I thought results alone meant everything to you?

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 13:03

Great win, well done lads, onwards and upwards.

Anyway MH, you should be creaming, not only did we win 1-5 but frame scored (at last?) a couple.



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: ManHug (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 15:05

I'd be saying exactly the same thing and I'd be furious at our players for giving up - something we saw late on in many of Stans latter games.

Go on then, if it was the reverse and we'd have been Pompey then WHAT would I be saying? You really saying that I'd be complementing Pompey on an amazing showing - unlikely, I'd be saying it was a competitive game until we gave in late on and they bagged a few easy goals and it would have got worse with more minutes. Pray tell me, what would I have said then if other way round?


Jonas, what makes you think im not creaming? Was delighted, two superb goals in a competitive game away to a fighting team (with form) - as I've said.

The last three goals, having seen them, and read about the game and seen tonnes of similar situations before, I take with a pinch of salt and blame it on them giving up.



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Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: paddy claret (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 15:51

Not having a dig at all MH, far from it, but going of your previous history where results have told the story of a football match, I'd suggest you wouldn't be as complimentary to ourselves as you are now being to Pompey, you do seem to have similar mindset on transfers too, where 'every player we sign needs to be ready for championship football', judging transfer fees on this seasons showing, when is someone going to look at the ages of the players we have signed??
In truth, I don't think anyone will know exactly how much money has been 'wasted' this season for another couple of years, ffs Austin was a waste of 2 million after a couple of games last year........... To some.

 
Re: .........Losing Interest?
Posted by: ManHug (IP Logged)
Date: 02/04/2012 17:48

Not being complimentary to Pompey fella. The way the ended the game and gave up without care is unforgivable and I'd e fuming if it was us, no difference which way round it was.

You see games like that all the time.



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