Before the meeting I was still undecided on whether Guterman could deliver on all the promises about the club. These included building the "second best stadium" in the second division and developing the land around the ground to produce an annual income of around £500k a year.

It sounded so plausible and seductive that I really wanted to believe it .A new kop, just what we need! A guaranteed income from commercial development which would support the needs of our club. Bring it on!

Who could object to that?

But then you start thinking about Mr Guterman himself. The things he says and the way he conducts himself. The doubts start to creep in. Little things which jar.

At our meeting he claimed that Teresa Hinde, the woman who owns the only share in Mr Guterman’s company Memorvale, lived in a terraced house in Altrincham. She does live in Altrincham but in a nice house in a plush suburb called Bowdon. (think Marford but posher).

Why on earth would he say that? Who gave a toss where Teresa lived until Mr Guterman’s silly claim?

I asked him why he wouldn’t give WINS a share in the club in return for the 30k that the fans have given over the last two years. He replied that 30k was a pittance compared to the £500,000 that he had invested in the club.

He seemed to find the suggestion a bit of a cheek and started looking a bit angry.

When Rob Owen stepped in and suggested that the fans money had made the signing of Scott Green possible and that this had helped clinch promotion last sea-son he replied as follows, "If WINS hadn’t paid that money I would have paid it myself and we would still have been promoted".

I called him a "cheeky bastard" and told him he was "having a laugh". David Rhodes was staring at the ceiling at this point, shaking his head. Like myself, he probably couldn’t believe how insensitive to the fans concerns his master was being.

WINS have not funded any more transfers since that meeting. (Ed - and in today's meeting [20/03] refused to fund Michael Ingham's loan spell from their funds - report of meeting to be uploaded soon)

Mr Guterman should not be running the Robins. I bear him no ill will I just want him out of our club.

We don’t need a sugar daddy to come and save us. The sugar daddy who saved Chester from Mr Guterman was a certain Terry Smith. Mr Smith achieved the impossible at Chester by being even more incompetent than our own Mr Guterman.

What we need now is for Wrexham fans to get off our knees and work together to get Guterman out. Other clubs have shown us the way in this. Clubs a lot smaller than us as well. I dont buy the line that the club will fold without Mr Gutermans money. That is just a convenient scare tactic to keep us in line.. He seems to be putting precious little of that in the club anyway.

Whether we do it through Wins or, preferably, through all of the fans organisations working together, it’s all the same to me as long as the aim is total fans ownership.

We beat Arsenal ,we beat Porto, we can beat a chubby little property speculator from Cheshire.

GUTERMAN OUT!