Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
By Nathan Jackson May 10 2008
In the first of our assessments of the performance of each player during the 2007/8, we start with the former number 1, Alan Marriott. Alan's season was pretty awful and he conceded 71 of the 90 goals that went into our net this during the 07/08 season, including him conceding 4 or more goals on a shocking 9 occasions.
In the first of our assessments of the performance of each player during the 2007/8, we start with the former number 1, Alan Marriott. Alan's season was pretty awful and he conceded 71 of the 90 goals that went into our net this during the 07/08 season, including him conceding 4 or more goals on a shocking 9 occasions.
Alan Marriott in 2007/8 | |
GAMES | 38 |
CONCEDED | 71 |
TOTAL MINUTES ON PITCH (average of 5 minutes of added on time a game) | 3,443 |
AVERAGE MINUTES BETWEEN GOALS | 48 |
MISTAKES LEADING TO GOALS | 8 |
CLEAN SHEETS | 6 |
PENALTY SAVES | 3 |
Alan Marriott was recently released from Sincil Bank following a poor season. His positive contributions were few and far between, mainly the odd penalty save and 6 clean sheets. However, that is about as positive as this report will get.
Conceding every 48 minutes on average is simply not good enough. Many people have blamed the defence for every single goal that we conceded this season, but that is far from the case. He made the following mistakes against the following teams :
Doncaster - Dropped the ball when not under pressure
Bury (away) - Running out of goal and kicking it straight to an opposition player,
Morecambe (home) - Not communicating with his defence, causing Lee Beevers to score an own goal.
Chesterfield (home) - Allowing Jack Lester to squeeze the ball between himself and the post without really making an effort to get to it.
Mansfield (home) - Both goals.
Shrewsbury (away) - Made no effort to get to the shot.
Macclesfield (home) - Jumping over the ball to give Evans an open goal to aim at.
And those are just the ones that I can think of off of the top of my head. He's always been a goalkeeper prone to mistakes but he used to be able to win more games than he cost us....now that's not the case. Out of that list, we dominated the games against Bury, Morecambe and Mansfield, yet they managed to get points off of us because Marriott made the mistakes.
There weren't many goals that were unavoidable this season. There were few goals that were 30 yard screamers, very few brilliant volleys and very few jinking runs. Most of the goals we conceded were very scrappy and could have been easily avoided.
However, dont get me wrong, there were times when he was proving useful...the aforementioned penalty saves, but other than that he wasn't really making the difference that he had done in the past. The Alan Marriott of 2002/3 would probably have gained us about 10 more points that we gained this season, but unfortunately the Alan Marriott of 2007/8 isn't even in the same league as the Marriott of that season.
Everyone keeps on saying that he should have been given a new contract simply to give him the testimonial. I'm sorry but football is not a sentimental sport. Marriott has done virtually nothing since he last signed a contract to justify a new one. I could count the good games he's had during the last 3 years on one hand.
I appreciate that he was here for 9 years but in my opinion, it was right to get rid of him. He now costs us more games than he wins for us and if we're going to challenge for promotion next season, then we can't afford to bring along players that simply aren't good enough anymore.
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Posted by: Aryan_imp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:16:37:03
Blimey, talk about statistical evidence to back-up one's case .... I reckon you'd make a natural solicitor Nathan.
Still think that in this day n' age Mazza deserved another season, so he was entitled to a testimonial, as I doubt we'll see this kind of 9 year loyalty ever again?
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Still think that in this day n' age Mazza deserved another season, so he was entitled to a testimonial, as I doubt we'll see this kind of 9 year loyalty ever again?
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Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Southern Imp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:16:51:34
Nathan for many seasons you have targeted mazza shame you cant produce the statistics that relate to the shocking and poor defence
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:17:01:38
Quote:Southern Imp
Nathan for many seasons you have targeted mazza shame you cant produce the statistics that relate to the shocking and poor defence
Doesn't a goalkeeper count as part of the defence these days?
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: heathimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:17:03:28
jesus southern do you want to suck mazza of or something
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Posted by: Jam Imp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:17:10:34
Did he not save 3 penalties this season? Wrexham, Bury and Chester away.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:17:14:09
I thought he'd saved more than 2 but couldn't place the third (the Wrexham game)
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Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Jam Imp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:10:17:16:46
That was back in the dark days of Schoey's reign of terror, so I dont blame you lol.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Ric83 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:12:18:18
goalkeeper makes a mistake, shock horror. Petr Cech, Van der Sar, Pepe Reina never make mistakes, is that the case, of course it's not but most of these mistakes occur when there is a changed centre back pairing, the keepers get used to what the centre halves are going to do and when they are unsettled they try and over compensate which can lead to a mistake. Honestly, somebody who knows so little about football should not be allowed to run a football website.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:12:24:14
And yet I'm getting lectured by someone who appears to know nothing about football, the irony.
The average goalkeeper in any given season will make 2/3 mistakes that lead to a goal, Marriott made at least 8 during the 2007/8, simply not good enough. Even going back into last season...Marriott had ONE decent game last season (Hereford away), in 2006/7 the only time he did well in was at Fulham.......do you seriously think that 2 decent performances in 3 years is good enough? If you do then you seriously don't know as much about football as much as you think you do.
Most goalkeepers will win their team about 4 or 5 games a season...Marriott didn't win City one game this season.
Then what about the times when he made no effort to get to the ball? I suppose that's also the defence's fault is it? If Marriott had actually tried to get to some of the chances he just left, then he would probably have gained us about 10 more points this season.
There were so many incidents where the opposition had only one decent chance and scored. Sometimes it wasn't even a decent chance. All it seems to take to beat Marriott these days is a shot on target that is going faster than 2 or 3 mph.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008:05:11:12:26:24 by Nathan Jackson.
The average goalkeeper in any given season will make 2/3 mistakes that lead to a goal, Marriott made at least 8 during the 2007/8, simply not good enough. Even going back into last season...Marriott had ONE decent game last season (Hereford away), in 2006/7 the only time he did well in was at Fulham.......do you seriously think that 2 decent performances in 3 years is good enough? If you do then you seriously don't know as much about football as much as you think you do.
Most goalkeepers will win their team about 4 or 5 games a season...Marriott didn't win City one game this season.
Then what about the times when he made no effort to get to the ball? I suppose that's also the defence's fault is it? If Marriott had actually tried to get to some of the chances he just left, then he would probably have gained us about 10 more points this season.
There were so many incidents where the opposition had only one decent chance and scored. Sometimes it wasn't even a decent chance. All it seems to take to beat Marriott these days is a shot on target that is going faster than 2 or 3 mph.
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Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:12:37:44
Infact, here is a list of games where Marriott didn't make one bit of effort to get to the ball before it entered the net.
Shrewsbury's 4th at Sincil Bank
Dagenham (away)
Grimsby's 1st at Sincil Bank
Hartlepool's 1st at Sincil Bank
MK Dons' 1st at stadium:MK
Brentford's winner at Griffin Park
Shrewsbury's equaliser at New Meadow
Macclesfield's 92nd minute goal at Moss Road
There's a difference at those games between making a mistake and just being bone-idol lazy and making no effort to move to the ball.
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Shrewsbury's 4th at Sincil Bank
Dagenham (away)
Grimsby's 1st at Sincil Bank
Hartlepool's 1st at Sincil Bank
MK Dons' 1st at stadium:MK
Brentford's winner at Griffin Park
Shrewsbury's equaliser at New Meadow
Macclesfield's 92nd minute goal at Moss Road
There's a difference at those games between making a mistake and just being bone-idol lazy and making no effort to move to the ball.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: impsadaisy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:13:02:30
Enjoyed reading your article about the statistics for Marriott 2007/2008 season, but if you are complying facts and figures how/whom are you comparing them with. You just can’t shove out statistics without a comparison, whos to say weather he was the worst keeper in this league without it. Not that it would bring him back (i hope not anyway) as i for one thought it was a right choice not to give him a new contract.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:13:05:28
The comparison with the other goalkeepers will come when I get to Duffy and Ben Smith. I'm basically going through the squad numbers in these assessments. I've just done Moses so will probably be at Duffy by tomorrow evening or sometime on Tuesday.
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Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: mightyimp1 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:19:27:02
i understand what you mean nathan.
but you cant moan at a keeper for 'not making an effort'.
sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and accept your not going to get there. if you see the ball late, there is no point in attemtping it as you wont get it.
having played in goal myself a fair few times, i dont see them as errors as such.
but you cant moan at a keeper for 'not making an effort'.
sometimes you just have to hold your hands up and accept your not going to get there. if you see the ball late, there is no point in attemtping it as you wont get it.
having played in goal myself a fair few times, i dont see them as errors as such.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:19:31:36
Whilst compiling the information for the shots he didn't try to get to, I was watching the videos and you could count on one hand the amount of chances that he couldn't have gotten to.
The one thing I find interesting is that all the Marriott-Mafia are saying I know nothing about football....that despite the fact I have given statistical fact to back up my side of this argument on more than one occasion...and what have they given? Opinions.
Not one of the Marriott-Mafia has provided one shread of undeniable proof that he deserved a new contract....and yet I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about apparantly. Opinions mean sweet @#$%& all when compared to actual FACTS.
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The one thing I find interesting is that all the Marriott-Mafia are saying I know nothing about football....that despite the fact I have given statistical fact to back up my side of this argument on more than one occasion...and what have they given? Opinions.
Not one of the Marriott-Mafia has provided one shread of undeniable proof that he deserved a new contract....and yet I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about apparantly. Opinions mean sweet @#$%& all when compared to actual FACTS.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:19:53:29
On the issue of Marriott I agree with your assessment Nathan. And as I have said on a number of occasions I respect the fact you ALWAYS try and back up your arguments.
However, the constant trotting out of statistics "proves" nothing. Statistics can be bent and shaped to say what you want them to. As a game, football simply does not lend itself to the bland use of facts and figures to justify and explain who contibutes most. The game is far too subtle for that.
Here's a statistic for you. Ayden Duffy - played four won three. That's a 75% win percetage. That should secure us promotion. Duffy should be number 1. Anybody agree? No, thought not.
75% win percentage is a FACT. But is a relatively meaningless one.
You list the mistakes Marriott has made - and these are subjective opinions. They will not wash as facts. (You missed his butter fingers flap gifting Nottingham Forest their first goal at Sincil Bank).
However, the constant trotting out of statistics "proves" nothing. Statistics can be bent and shaped to say what you want them to. As a game, football simply does not lend itself to the bland use of facts and figures to justify and explain who contibutes most. The game is far too subtle for that.
Here's a statistic for you. Ayden Duffy - played four won three. That's a 75% win percetage. That should secure us promotion. Duffy should be number 1. Anybody agree? No, thought not.
75% win percentage is a FACT. But is a relatively meaningless one.
You list the mistakes Marriott has made - and these are subjective opinions. They will not wash as facts. (You missed his butter fingers flap gifting Nottingham Forest their first goal at Sincil Bank).
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:19:55:21
Quote:Markus Naslund
You list the mistakes Marriott has made - and these are subjective opinions. They will not wash as facts. (You missed his butter fingers flap gifting Nottingham Forest their first goal at Sincil Bank).
Ahh yes, forgotten about that one.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Ric83 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:19:55:29
goalkeepers make 2-3 mistakes, you're having an absolute laugh, some keepers make a mistake and get away with it, due to defenders getting back or strikers fluffing their lines etc, some mistakes get punished every time, you need a lot of luck to go with your talent, and I also maintain that the defence simply wasn't good enough, Mazza hasn't got worse as a goalkeeper has he? So what's changed, doen't take a genius
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:20:02:39
Quote:Ric83
goalkeepers make 2-3 mistakes, you're having an absolute laugh, some keepers make a mistake and get away with it, due to defenders getting back or strikers fluffing their lines etc, some mistakes get punished every time, you need a lot of luck to go with your talent, and I also maintain that the defence simply wasn't good enough, Mazza hasn't got worse as a goalkeeper has he? So what's changed, doen't take a genius
Well it's not just luck, it's concentration as well. The one that sticks in my mind is the one against Bury. 999/1000 Marriott would have booted that into the crowd without even thinking twice about, yet for some reason he doesn't look up when kicking it poorly (which I'm sure wasn't done on purpose) and well, we all know what happened after that.
From what I can also recall, he wasn't exactly in a hurry to get back into the goal.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:20:11:41
Quote:Ric83
Mazza hasn't got worse as a goalkeeper has he? So what's changed, doen't take a genius
Interesting question. My opinion is Marriott's frailties as a goalkeeper were masked by the fact that for long periods he was playing behind three centre-backs - Morgan, McCombe and McAuley. He rarely had much to do and they were excellent at dealing with plenty of stuff that a 'keeper might be expected to deal with.
Take away that protective line and his frailties are exposed. Those players were top quality League Two defenders that it was always going to be difficult to replace. The defence rightly shoulders it's share of the blame but this was the time for Marriott to step up to plate and prove his worth.
I would (possibly) agree that perhaps Marriott hasn't got worse as a goalkeeper, but would suggest he was possibly never as good as some people thought.
Doesn't take a genius does it?
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: dannytheimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:20:27:54
Nathan, whilst I respect you as a poster I think some of this is ridiculous. Yes he made mistakes, but I wouldn't class it as a mistake whenever he didn't dive for the ball. As for moaning at pro Marriott people and saying they're giving opinions, saying someone made a mistake is an opinion too, not a fact.
And Marriott has had far more good games than you give him credit for. When we beat Wycombe 1-0 at home a couple of seasons ago they could have scored 20.
Most of all though, I don't get you when you say that a good goalkeeper only makes 2/3 mistakes a season. Let's take Van Der Saar for example. I'm sure he must have made 2/3 mistakes this season. BUT I also bet he's only had to deal with about a quarter of the amounts of shots Marriott had. Put him in a team that can't defend (Derby for example) and I bet he'd have made alot more errors
And Marriott has had far more good games than you give him credit for. When we beat Wycombe 1-0 at home a couple of seasons ago they could have scored 20.
Most of all though, I don't get you when you say that a good goalkeeper only makes 2/3 mistakes a season. Let's take Van Der Saar for example. I'm sure he must have made 2/3 mistakes this season. BUT I also bet he's only had to deal with about a quarter of the amounts of shots Marriott had. Put him in a team that can't defend (Derby for example) and I bet he'd have made alot more errors
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Nathan Jackson (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:20:44:07
Quote:dannytheimp
Most of all though, I don't get you when you say that a good goalkeeper only makes 2/3 mistakes a season.
But I didn't say that, I said the AVERAGE goalkeeper.
It just frustrates me that there seems to be this impression that Marriott is now in poverty all of a sudden because he's been released. The bloke (if reports are true) earned well over £70,000 a year and he's not even technically out of a job for another 7 weeks. If he's in poverty then what about the YTS lads who earn less than £100 per week and aren't allowed to have other jobs?
There is a very slim chance he'll be clubless at the beginning of next season because of his (debatably undeserved) reputation at this level of football. He'll probably end up at somewhere like Macclesfield.
I wasn't fortunate enough to see goalkeepers such as Peter Grotier, but if the reports are true then we have had far, far better keepers than Marriott at this football club and survived. No player is bigger or more important than this football club and that includes Marriott.
That's why I am getting annoyed by all of this, some of you seem to be under the impression that this club can't possibly continue without Alan Marriott in goal.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:20:56:44
Quote:dannytheimp
And Marriott has had far more good games than you give him credit for. When we beat Wycombe 1-0 at home a couple of seasons ago they could have scored 20.
I remember the game well and Marriott did have a good game. Your exagerration does your argument little credit though and it is interesting that you are required to pull an example from so long ago.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:04:17
Quote:Nathan Jackson
I wasn't fortunate enough to see goalkeepers such as Peter Grotier, but if the reports are true then we have had far, far better keepers than Marriott at this football club and survived. No player is bigger or more important than this football club and that includes Marriott.
I go back as far as Peter Grotier and we HAVE had several better goalkeepers as I'm sure other crusty old gits like me will testify.
Grotier, Felgate and Naylor were a cut above any others I've seen. I would probably argue that Dickens, Pollitt, Bowling and Butler were better than Marriott.
These are keepers that week in week out were performing to a very high standard. Pollitt was a bit more inconsistent but was when at Lincoln very young. Naylor played behind a defence every bit as suspect as the one Marriott has played behind.
Too many supporters I suspect know no different than having Marriott in goal and so are having difficulty comprehending how incredulous some of us are at this rather peurile outcry at his release.
He was a fair League Two 'keeper. Better than some but not the best. Life goes on. This debate is wearing away any gratitude I had for his nine years good service to the club. But he is NOT bigger than the club. The club made a footballing decision, it may have made a mistake, who knows but this reaction to his departure has been utterly pathetic.
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Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: dannytheimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:08:43
Exageration? They LITERALLY could have scored 20 that game. I pulled out that game because for me, that's the performance I'll remember him most for.
He's had plenty of GOOD games since then, perhaps just none that were on that level of performance. The 1st leg against Bristol Rovers he kept us in it too.
Although he's my favourite ever player, I still stick by Jacko and will support our next goalkeeper, but I just think it's a shame that a minority of fans don't seem to pay him any respect.
He's had plenty of GOOD games since then, perhaps just none that were on that level of performance. The 1st leg against Bristol Rovers he kept us in it too.
Although he's my favourite ever player, I still stick by Jacko and will support our next goalkeeper, but I just think it's a shame that a minority of fans don't seem to pay him any respect.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:24:49
Quote:dannytheimp
Exageration? They LITERALLY could have scored 20 that game. I pulled out that game because for me, that's the performance I'll remember him most for.
He's had plenty of GOOD games since then, perhaps just none that were on that level of performance. The 1st leg against Bristol Rovers he kept us in it too.
Although he's my favourite ever player, I still stick by Jacko and will support our next goalkeeper, but I just think it's a shame that a minority of fans don't seem to pay him any respect.
I respect your opinion danny and I hope that you don't include me in the group that apparently pay him no respect. He has plenty of respect from the me. The people I lack respect for are those that seem to implying that the club is somehow cruel for releasing him and believe that he is the best thing sinced sliced bread.
Literally 20 goals? Really? I'm sure Nathan will be able to dig out some stats from the game but I'd be very surprised if that were true. As for the first leg against Bristol Rovers he made one excellent save late in the first half. It's a matter of debate as to whether he might have done better with either of their goals...
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: tinkimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:29:14
i dont think anyone is showing any disrespect, what is being said is that marriott did not perform at a level that he used to play at. partly to do with the defence but as it has been pointed out there were errors he made which nobody else can be blamed for.
i respect marriott for his loyalty and passion but life goes on. i have faith in jacko to get a decent keeper and create an overall improved squad from this last crappy season.
im sure marriott doesn't gives two hoots what people think of him, the most important thing for him is to get a job to support his family and good luck to him!
i respect marriott for his loyalty and passion but life goes on. i have faith in jacko to get a decent keeper and create an overall improved squad from this last crappy season.
im sure marriott doesn't gives two hoots what people think of him, the most important thing for him is to get a job to support his family and good luck to him!
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: niceimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:47:30
Quote:Markus Naslund
I go back as far as Peter Grotier and we HAVE had several better goalkeepers as I'm sure other crusty old gits like me will testify.
Grotier, Felgate and Naylor were a cut above any others I've seen. I would probably argue that Dickens, Pollitt, Bowling and Butler were better than Marriott.
I go back further than Peter Grotier and, yes, we have had several better goalkeepers and I would add John Kennedy and Terry Carling to that list. Dickens in my view was over-rated and Blackburn paid way over the odds for him (but thanks anyway). Pollitt wasn't rated by that excellent judge of a footballer called Sam Ellis. His subsequent career speaks for itself (Pollitt not Ellis). Mazza was brought to the Club on the advice of Colin Murphy who could always spot a good player. We were fortunate to have him but time to "move on" as someone might say.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: dannytheimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:21:50:15
No I don't include you in that group Markus. Infact there aren't many posters on here that do fall into that group (most of them are on the Echo's site). And I agree that some pro Marriott comments are a bit stupid (especially those that criticise keeping Duffy as a backup despite him being on about a tenth of Mazza's wage). But I think that after 9 years of service the least he deserves is people acting glad to see the back of him and going on about some mistakes he made
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: happiness_stan (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:22:03:53
i'm not glad to see to the back of him but i do think the right decision was made.
i think the move will do him good as it'll be a fresh start. i think he had become a little too comfy as he was guaranteed to start every game if fit.
i don't understand the arguments for keeping him for one more year so he got his testamonial or offering him a new contract just because he stayed in the same place for 9 seasons without really achieving anything of any note. i actually see that as a lack of ambition on his part and not a reason to be rewarded.
also i think that the lack of 'england's number one' chants this season shows that even his die hard fans had lost a little faith!
i think the move will do him good as it'll be a fresh start. i think he had become a little too comfy as he was guaranteed to start every game if fit.
i don't understand the arguments for keeping him for one more year so he got his testamonial or offering him a new contract just because he stayed in the same place for 9 seasons without really achieving anything of any note. i actually see that as a lack of ambition on his part and not a reason to be rewarded.
also i think that the lack of 'england's number one' chants this season shows that even his die hard fans had lost a little faith!
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: dannytheimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:11:22:09:55
I don't understand people who said he should stay just because of his testimonial either. I do think he had enough quality, but like I said, it's Jacko's decision and he's made far more right decisions than wrong ones so far.
As for the lack of ambition part, Stan, I think it depends on the player's personlity. Personally I'd rather be able to say "I was a legend at one club" rather than "I played for quite a few teams and reached the dizzying heights of league 1".
As for the lack of ambition part, Stan, I think it depends on the player's personlity. Personally I'd rather be able to say "I was a legend at one club" rather than "I played for quite a few teams and reached the dizzying heights of league 1".
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: chesterimp (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:12:14:01:26
No doubt I'll be accused of being part of the 'Marriott Mafia', but in the interests of balance, this needs to be said.
OK, I only saw the Imps play twice with Mazza in goal, at Bury and Macc this season, but incidents in both matches have been cited as 'evidence against'.
The Imps took 4 points from those two games, without Marriott's saves it would have 0, if anyone argues otherwise they weren't there or weren't paying attention. And that's allowing for him 'gifting' the two goals conceded in those games (I'd dispute the Macc goal being his fault, the defence left him stranded as usual).
I still hold that with a decent defence in front of him he's still amongst the best at this level, hope I'm not proved right at the Imps' expense next season.
OK, I only saw the Imps play twice with Mazza in goal, at Bury and Macc this season, but incidents in both matches have been cited as 'evidence against'.
The Imps took 4 points from those two games, without Marriott's saves it would have 0, if anyone argues otherwise they weren't there or weren't paying attention. And that's allowing for him 'gifting' the two goals conceded in those games (I'd dispute the Macc goal being his fault, the defence left him stranded as usual).
I still hold that with a decent defence in front of him he's still amongst the best at this level, hope I'm not proved right at the Imps' expense next season.
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Ric83 (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:12:17:09:21
more pish coming out of your mouth Markus, we conceded about 16 goals in our first play off season with Futcher and Weaver alongside Morgs, consistently that is my point. It is a lot easier when you are consistently playing with the same 2 or 3 centre backs week in week out, and also that we never replaced Morgs last season who was a very very underated defender
Re: Reaction to Alan Marriott's 2007/8 season
Posted by: Markus Naslund (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:05:12:18:31:40
Quote:Ric83
more pish coming out of your mouth Markus, we conceded about 16 goals in our first play off season with Futcher and Weaver alongside Morgs, consistently that is my point. It is a lot easier when you are consistently playing with the same 2 or 3 centre backs week in week out, and also that we never replaced Morgs last season who was a very very underated defender
Show some respect. At no point have I resorted in this debate to try and belittle your right to an opinion. I have put forward as reasonably as I can my thoughts about Alan Marriott.
You could do with affording people the same courtesy.
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