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FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle


By Tyne-Talk
January 28 2012

The 3 day footballing weekend might be focused on Liverpool v Manchester United and QPR v Chelsea, but the Television schedule’s got it right when they decided to show the Brighton v Newcastle United game at 17.15 this evening.

Newcastle travel to the Falmer Stadium without strikers Demba Ba and new signing Papiss Demba Cisse. The Senegal Internationals have been knocked out of the African Cup of Nations in the first week and will fly home this week after their final group game on Sunday. Cheik Tiote is unavailable as he continues his run in the African Cup with the Ivory Coast.

Sylvain Marveaux (groin), Steven Taylor (Achilles) and Sammy Ameobi (hamstring) all remain side-lined, whilst Captain Fabricio Coloccini faces a late fitness test after straining his groin in training earlier in the week.

Brighton and Hove Albion could welcome back former Newcastle United winger Kazenga Lualua (hamstring) who has been out for three weeks, whilst Craig Noone (hamstring) and Vicente Rodriguez (thigh) are also expected to return.

Long term absentees Tommy Elphick (Achilles) and Gary Dicker (broken leg) continue to miss out, whilst Marcos Painter (hamstring) is also unavailable.

Both sides got through the last round in the final minutes of their respective games, with Newcastle seeing off Blackburn 2-1 at St James’ Park in the 90 minute with a Jonas Gutierrez goal, whilst Brighton came back from a goal down against Wrexham to force a replay and then extra time and penalties to get through to the 4th round.

Both managers will be striving for a win with Brighton manager Gus Poyet hoping to replicate last season’s FA Cup run by pushing through to the 5th Round, which was the first time they had gone that far in the competition in 25 years. For Alan Pardew, it would be Newcastle’s first appearance in the 5th round in 6 seasons.

Fact: Gus Poyet’s side is unbeaten so far in 2012, with 5 league and cup games.

Fact: Newcastle have conceded 7 goals in their last 2 away ties of the competition and have not won in 8 games away from home, their last was 6 years ago in Cheltenham.

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FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
TyneTalk (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 11:39
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Ian Toward
Re: FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
Biffins Bridge (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 11:54
Some interesting facts there. Definitely wont be the walk in the park some people are hoping for. I hope Im wrong though.

It would be nice for the likes of Cabaye to be rested. That lad runs himself into the ground every game, but reportedly looked a bit off the pace against Fulham. Maybe Abeid or Gosling could come in.

 
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annie (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 12:16
With so many of our first team players unavailable I'm not sure this is a good time to rest Cabaye. Especially as I agree with Biffin when he says this won't be an easy match.

I guess it all boils down to whether we want to be sure of progressing in the FA Cup, or keep our players fresh for the league.

Either way I'll be watching and hoping.

(Sm128)

 
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Carys (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 12:42
I honestly think we need to field our strongest team. There are some big games this weekend with big teams quarenteed to be knocked out. Its a season where other teams do have a chance, I think we should take it.

4 Premier League teams will be knocked out this weekend regardless of other results.

 
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Re: FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
Carys (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 17:16
So no Colo but a very attacking line up.

Could be a lot of goals between these two sides.

 
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Carys (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 17:24
Cabaye down again sad smiley

 
waffles
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waffles (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 18:52
1-0 brighton, Buckley blew past Simpson...

 
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annie (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 18:52
FFS You could see this coming

1-0 Brighton



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Carys (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 18:53
(Sm19)FFS Shocking defending

 
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Carys (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:06
Should have had a penalty sad smiley

 
tom09
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tom09 (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:09
Best + ameobi ! About as creative as tracing paper ffs be glad when ba is back

 
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tunyc (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:11
one more f00king year without a trophy.

 
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annie (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:14
Stuffed by a ref again. (Sm19)



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tom09
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tom09 (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:20
If we had converted possession and dominance into goals the ref wouldn't have been a factor it's about time pardew seen what most have known for a long time ameobi + best just don't work ! And after the last few weeks showing I'd say ameobi wasn't fit for sweeping the changing room and my opponion of best is dropping quick also

 
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Re: FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
tunyc (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:25
Agreed. With ACON next year we need to get a quality non-African striker. No matter what we did well today we didn't look like scoring. We should have been 2-3 up at half like @ Fulham. They were there for the taking.

Substitutions were a joke. We need a goal and you take of HBA & Santon but leave on Shola & Best?!

CH's team won today easily by attacking effectively. Just sayin'...

 
tom09
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tom09 (IP Logged)
28/01/2012 19:31
Since ba left we have looked limp we were extremely lucky v qpr to hold out at 1-0 and against Blackburn it was only really their nerves that let them down and allowed us back in that game yet pardew still persists with best and ameobi Wtf is he thinking I'd chuck one of the under16s on over them at the min they are that bad !

 
mentalman
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mentalman (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 11:08
if we are playing Best and Ameobi up front then we need to be playing 4-4-2 and have Raylor playing on the right and bang crosses into the box to make the most of their aerial threat!

Instead we have best out on the wing or dropping deep to get the ball and Ameobi with his back to the goal constantly with nobody to play it on to, HBA is wasted out on the right trying to run the ball into the box!

Perch and Willo had a ok game but showed what level they should be playing at!

Tunyc if CH was still in charge we would have lost that game by a larger margin, we also wouldn't be siiting where we are in the league and Alan Smith would still be starting games!

 
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Re: FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
tunyc (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 16:18
Good point about Raylor. But you see that that puts us at a disadvantage in other areas.

I completely disagree with you re: CH. By comparison AP knows nothing about tactics going forward. CH's team didn't play "beautiful football" but they weren't much further off it than AP's (look at our % of long passes this season). AND, CH put the team into a formation that took advantage of what he had personnel-wise. Defensively, AP has been a huge improvement as a coach but when it comes to going forward, he knows one system and shoe-horns any squad into it.

The irony of the situation is that when Ba & Cisse return we actually will have the personnel for a 2-forward formation.

 
mentalman
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mentalman (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 18:26
CH spent the half the season putting square pegs into round holes when round pegs were available in order not to drop players! CH had no plan B if things weren't going right he didn't know how to change it!

would we have come back and scored for against Arsenal, i very much doubt it, would we be in the position we are now in the league? i dont think so, he's hardly setting the championship on fire with Birmingham is he?

 
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tunyc (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 18:40
I really don't put that comeback against Arsenal down to AP. Sure, he was the manager but I think it was just as likely with anyone.

It's funny-your description of Hughton sounds like Pardew to me. Did you think we really looked like scoring at any point yesterday? Was there any effort to change it up?

We can agree that they both have their limitations, no? They're both doing a good job right now, though AP interests me MUCH more.

 
tom09
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tom09 (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 19:04
What I'd like to know is why if it's so obvious that ameobi and best are not working why not give vuckic or as much as I hate him ranger a go upfront alongside best or ameobi rather than keep playing them together and looking clueless in attack dependent on a Guthrie wonder strike or benarfa moment of class which you can't expect every game

 
waffles
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waffles (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 19:06
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tunyc
Did you think we really looked like scoring at any point yesterday? Was there any effort to change it up?

I agree with you, but I would like to point out that Best had two very good chances early. The first one, I think he did as well as he could, put pushed it about 2 inches wide of the far post. The second was a header that went over the bar. Once he missed those two, I never saw the others attempt to get him back into the game.

Guthrie, Perch, and Krul were the only ones I saw put in a respectable effort.


I've always been of the opinion that if you have two players that play the same way, then you don't have either. Best and Ameobi are too similar (Best is better). Cabaye and Guthrie are too similar (and the last few games, Guthrie has looked better).



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tom09
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tom09 (IP Logged)
29/01/2012 19:27
Agree with waffles about best + ameobi but not about Guthrie and cabaye ! Cabaye has been a bit temperamental of late with his hissy fit at qpr and going off injured when I'm not so sure he was and again yesterday lashing out and he can blow hot and cold but A lot of French players we've had over the years have been like that and with cabaye from what I've seen it's usually when tiote is missing he struggles but when the whole squad is available I think I'd still pick cabaye over Guthrie purely because of his ability to pick out passes and playing through balls is far superior to Guthrie

 
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Re: FA CUP Match Preview/Stats/Thread: Brighton v Newcastle
tunyc (IP Logged)
30/01/2012 02:49
Best had chances despite how we were set up. Mainly he was too far away from Ameobi to link up. The two of them looked decent individually but the tactics failed.

You can play two forwards or two deep-sitting midfielders if you have the personnel for it. Cabaye & Guthrie can both sit deep though I think it's a waste of Cabaye's ability.

I don't understand two forwards on the pitch who are both big, knock it down & turn types when we don't have two wingers who cross well and we do have a bunch of talented midfielders. Those forwards aren't prolific finishers or in any sort of form either. Again-not their fault. Doesn't help that our formation didn't bring the midfield up to attack.

We've experimented a bit more with formations of late, so credit where it's due. AP needs to be more bold imo. He's in a position of strength. With Ba & Cisse he'll have a properly deep squad going forward and should use it.

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