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Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete


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By Eduardo
May 20 2012

In a week that Chelsea won the Champion’s League and Robin van Persie refused to sign a new contract there has been much soul searching amongst Arsenal fan’s. Yes Arsenal finished third but when and where is the next trophy coming from if the Gunner’s can’t afford to keep star players. Can Arsenal get quality players into the squad at affordable prices? The situation is analysed by Arsenal Times regular forum contributor Eduardo, in his conclusion he notes that Wenger is changing the way he will go about his transfer dealings this summer.

I start with an analysis of Arsenal FC’s current problems and the solutions I propose to solve these problems.

 

The problems as I see them are

  1. Self Sustainability
  2. Squad Quality and Size
  3. Motivation and Tactics

 

Money is God in football

At the outset let me make it clear that I fully support the ethos of self sustainability in football.  I applaud Arsenal FC’s efforts to run the club within its means.  For myself I can say categorically that the views I hold on this have nothing to do with Arsenal’s public utterances in recent years on this matter.

 

  I am totally opposed to the way the TV deal is done in Spain with Barca and Real getting such an unfair advantage, I oppose the parachute payments that relegated FAPL get that mean they have an unfair advantage over other Championship clubs, I oppose sugar daddy owners pumping in shed loads of money to gain success for their plaything club (man city’s owner did not even turn up last week for their title winning game), I am totally against the obscene wages top flight players now get, in a time when ordinary supporters struggle to pay for match day tickets it’s a disgrace to see footballers earn more for a game than most of the fans will earn in ten years.  I hate the way agents have become so powerful in the game, how their greed unsettles so many players, and the amount of money they take out of the game. 

 

I fully back the idea of Financial Fair Play, but sadly I just do not see it working, I don’t see EUFA having the balls to make it work, and the fact that they are to double the prize money to clubs in the Champions League, for me, is a clear sign that they don’t really want to change anything.  It’s just something that they can point to when critics suggest football has gone money mad.

 

However, it’s clear that self sustainability has hindered us, players have left us for bigger wages, players have turned us down for the same reason, and we have not bid for some players as it became clear the sugar daddy clubs were in for them. So what is the solution?

 

Is there a solution?

Well there are two ways to go.

 

  1. If you can’t beat them, join them.  – Over 90% of AFC shares are owned by two individuals, Stan Kroenke and Alisher Usmanov, both are Billionaires, so nothing stopping SK spending his own money on the club and get us to the top, or we could invite Usmanov on to the board and get both men to dip into their own pockets and spend our way to titles and cups.

 

  1. Change our model of self sustainability – under the present model we keep outlay on wages to under 60% of income and in fact we are and have been for some time now in the top 4 of spenders on wages.  The problem is that we carry over 70 pro players, (this is about 20 more than most other clubs), we pay our top stars less than they could get at other top clubs, and we pay middle rank player and younger players more than they could get elsewhere.  So its simple really, make harsher decisions on who will make it or who are needed, sell those that are not required, even at a loss, spread the wages saved on those that deserve the big pay packet more.

 

Spend some money

The mantra of some whenever any result is not the one we want is spend whatever it takes, those who believe everything is fine as it is will counter with do you want us to go the way of Leeds Utd.  Of course there is a middle ground.  Our accounts clearly show that we have a massive bank balance.  Despite what some suggest with their “money disappearing down the pockets of the owner and board”, the fact remains that there is nothing to suggest that any money has gone missing, or that every penny is not accounted for. 

 

We don’t have to break the bank to compete or challenge for the league, we just need to spend more of what money we have.  Another Vermaelen or Koscielny type £10M defender, even a Sagna or Santos type £6M defender, another Podolski or even Gervinho type £10M attacker, another Arteta or Oxlade-Chamberlain type £10M midfielder signing and our squad would be massively improved and we would still have enough money to make a £25M signing too.

 

  We could actually do this for the next two summers without leaving the cupboard bare.  Then in 2014 our new main sponsorship deals kick in and this should at the very least mean an extra £50M each year coming in.  The club say Wenger can spend the money, Wenger says he has not been refused money, the accounts show we have the money, the will to spend it is needed.  So the solutions are very simple

 

  1. Wenger stops being such an economist and spends what we can afford
  2. Someone on the Board or the CEO force Wenger to splash the cash

 

Sort out the defence

The odd thing about this seasons record of 49 FAPL goals conceded is that its not entirely due to the set piece failings we had over the preceding seasons.  In fact after Pat Rice took over more of the training on set pieces we halved the amount of goals conceded in that manner.  So as we fix one problem it seems we have found new ways to let them in.  We can only hope that the promotion of Steve Bould and Neil Banfield to replace the retiring Arsenal legend Pat Rice, will improve out defence in a big way.  But for me most of our problems in defence is not actually down to the defenders per say, but is in fact more to do with our tactics.  In our title winning sides under Wenger we always had not only more cautious defenders (as in they did not charge forward as much in open play), but we also had two central midfielders who defended a lot too, PV4 and Petit, then PV4 and Gilberto, and of course at one time we had Parlour too who was not averse to helping out in tackling in midfield.  Inexplicably in recent years Wenger has mostly stuck to one DM, but maybe he has learnt his lesson as this season once we signed Arteta we went back to two more defence minded midfielders and it improved us a fair bit.

 

Even more inexplicable in recent years has been Wenger’s rigid attacking formation or one up front, with two wide men.  It is maddening to see us stick with this formation no matter what the score is, and even more so no matter who the personnel are.  God be with the times when we needed a goal and we would end up with four strikers on the pitch interchanging in and around the box, but no one can explain why Wenger now sticks with his one striker spearheading the attack, he would bring on Bendtner but stick him out on the wing, or bring on Chamakh and instead of putting two up front, RVP would be moved into a deep role.  We can only hope that Podolski has been signed so that we can, when we want, go with two up front or even four up front when goals are needed.

 

Wenger’s hierarchy of selection

 

We may have signed the solution in Podolski, but we won’t know if this is the case until we see if Wenger is actually prepared to alter formation for different oppositions and different situations. Over recent seasons we have had major problems coping when injuries and or suspensions hit us.  This is mainly due to two things –

 

1. A lack of experienced quality players who can step up when others missing. 

2. Wenger’s hierarchy of selection

 

A few more seasoned signings is the solution to problem 1, but problem 2 is harder to fix, as its been evident to a degree in all of Wenger’s time at Arsenal.  He has always picked his first choice players regardless of their form, even sometimes when they were clearly not fully fit either.  Wenger has never got the hang of squad rotation, he does not do one at a time rotation, its either none or six or more.  Play the star men till the drop.  Lets hope Steve Bould is able to persuade Wenger to introduce a policy of resting one first choice player on a near weekly rota system. 

 

The other glaring weakness over the last season has been our less than ideal attitude against the smaller clubs; we lost to QPR, Wigan, Norwich, Swansea and Blackburn, and we dropped points against Stoke, Bolton, Sunderland and Wolves.  In many of these games our player seemed to have an arrogance about them, a real lack of effort and it really looked like they thought they only had to turn up to win.  Again we can only hope the changes to the coaching staff will eradicate this particular flaw in our make up.  Signing some better players with a better attitude would help too.

 

Of course another solution to our motivation and tactical problems is to get rid of the manager, he is the one who decides on formation and tactics, he is the one who is supposed to motivate the players, if he can’t find a way to motivate them then he has to go, and if he refuses to alter tactics as occasions dictate then he again should be replaced.

 

Over lapping of problems and solutions

So to sum up much of our problems stem from our own imposed model of self sustainability, much of which is down to the manager (squad wages and squad size), and our tactics and motivation, again down to the manager, the hierarchy of selection, again down to the manager, the players we have in our squad, again down to the manager. 

So simply put, either our manager has to change parts of his philosophy or we have to change our manager.

 

Transfer Targets New way of Working:

For those who do not want Wenger to leave, I can give some hope that he will change some of his ways, most notably in the transfer market, I have it on good authority that Arsenal have contacted five clubs in pursuit of new signings, Ajax, Bilbao, Rennes, Lille and Montpellier.

 

Bids have been made in some cases; in others just enquiries as to availability and possible fees and in others just lodged an interest.

Arsenal have major interest in two Ajax players - Vertonghen and Eriksen - talks going well for Vertonghen, but Eriksen deal at much earlier stage - all our main scouts have had a look at both of them, our dutch scout goes regular and Rowley of course has been over many times, but Grimandi and Caggio also been sent to have a look a few times.

 

Yes it’s Hazard at Lille and M'Vila at Rennes that interests fans but with City, Utd and Chelsea after Hazard we seem to have little hope of getting him.

There are 3 guys at Montpellier we have scouted extensively (Grimandi watches them almost on a weekly basis for months now), Mapou Yanga-M'biwa, Younnes Belhanda and Oliver Giroud are the guys who he has recommended.

 

Several of the Bilbao guys have caught Arsenal’s attention, Caggio has sent glowing reports on many of their players, most notably Javi Martinez, Susaeta and Muniain - an offer has been made for one of them, I don't know which one or the outcome

I thought it was Goetz that Wenger wanted from Dortmund, but his contract extension has quelled our chances somewhat and maybe reports its Kagawa we are interested is are more to the mark.  I'm also told that we have been busy scouting Everton, Blackburn and Fulham games too, with the likely targets Rodwell, Fellini, Hoilett, Dempsey and Dembela and that we are keen on Powell of Crewe

 

Now it remains to be seen if we meet the valuation set for any of these players, but it is at least encouraging that unlike last summer, Gazidis has been able to get Wenger to provide him with a list of players to work from.  That at least is a step in the right direction.  It is my view we will sign a few, maybe four of those players mentioned, mainly because the club expressly needs to have a very good season next time out, as by this time next summer we will likely have concluded many of our next long term sponsorship deals, and its vital to the strategy of the club that these deals are in the massive category, and the only way to ensure this is to actually mount a real title push and maybe even win one of the big prizes.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012:06:08:17:56:16 by Padre Pio.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Willy (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 11:38
So do you think they will take more risks in transfer fees and wages this year because the sponsorship deals re being renewed? Quite a plausible theory.

Wenger has suggested he will change his philosophy on transfers, but can a leopard change his spots? This transfer window is make or break and the incoming buys are at least as important as keeping RvP who is out on his own and unable to drag us anywhere.

The squad rotation thing is very frustrating, although I've heard players commend his fairness in giving chances and retaining those who take them. Surely they all have to realise it's a squad game.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
HappyGööner (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 12:04
That is assuming that Wenger has the power to trump the board. Wenger is not the owner, he's the manager. Do you honestly think that if Wenger wanted to spend £50 million on new players, he can just take out his checkbook and spend it without Kronke or the board's permission? Chelsea and City's winning proved one thing, the 'sugar daddy' model works. I just hope that Usmanov gets his 30% ownership so he can take a look at the books to see what's really going on with the board.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Welshgooner (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 12:33
The Change in transfers simply means he is buying more experianced players ala mertsacker and Podolski rather than young inexperiance players. Nothing to do with huge spending sprees we cannot afford.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
karl16 (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 13:57
finally!! we're scouting Everton, Blackburn and Fulham.

Jokes aside, Fellaini, Holliet, Dempsey and Dembele.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
flynchstone (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 14:30
We didn't lose to Norwich (Sm159)

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Bergmars (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 15:42
Good read Ed some salient points and very informative thank you.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
eduardo (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 15:44
yeah flynch they should have been in the dropped points category, but that is what happens writing an article while watching champions league final



*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 17:48
doesnt change the relevance of article



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
flynchstone (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 18:05
I know I was just being a pedantic little p,rick

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
SuperRob (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 19:17
nice post

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
celine dion (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 20:40
very good objective and analytical piece of writing. Eduardo, you could get quite a following with your own blog. Do you have one?

I am very cynical towards the club however and I do wonder just how much of this noise around decent transfers they like to make, knowing that if it goes wrong they can just say they were gazzumped, and carry on as before.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
eduardo (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 21:12
no blog celine, here is the only place I post anything other than a few comments

as for transfer noise, as I suggest, this might fob off fans, but it won't bring in the big bucks in sponsorship deals, and that is so vital to the stragety of the club long term,



*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
SuperRob (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 22:07
Quote:
Eduardo
but it won't bring in the big bucks in sponsorship deals, and that is so vital to the stragety of the club long term,
Do you think its taken them this long to work this out or was it always their intention that now would be the earliest they were ever going to start making big signings after the stadium was built?

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
eduardo (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 22:14
who is talking about big signings, and to answer your question, there has been lots of money available for a couple of years now, it was expected initially that we would be hindered for two to three years, then the economy slump held it up another year or so, but money not a major problem now, and in fact the main reason its been a problem over the last few years has been the waste on carrying so many pros, and poor distribution of wages



*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
De Times (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 22:57
Few points:
A sagna type 6m defender, and a podolski type 10m striker is only so consistently possible because of one man alone, Wenger. With any other manager you spend more for lower quality.
2, Wenger does not go and pay for the players, his job is to identify and sanction, Gazides does the actual spending which must be approved by the board.
3, Signing players havnt been our problem, inability to keep hold of our players have. I'm quite sure wenger was unhappy losing both nas and fab at the same time, and he wouldve love to keep flamini, cole, hleb etc, even for a few extra bucks.
4, Wenger hasnt just stock with one dm as over the past seasons he's always played one dm and one boxtobox dm (song denilson, song diaby, song arteta, diaby denilson).
Most of wenger's decisions are understandable also:
1, Wenger hardly stick to one eleven because he hardly ever have a consistent eleven regulars as he's always depleted by injuries.
2, When wenger has two quality strikers (ade, rvp or ade, eduardo, or ade, henry, or henry, rvp), he starts them up front in a 442. Wenger though wouldnt replace rvp with chamakh or bendtner, two players that cost him a combined grand sum of £0m.
3, there's nothing strange about wenger's socalled hierachy of selection. Every other manager would start sagna, rvp, szczesny, song, vermaelen, and walcott in their every match. Also, Wenger like every other top manager rotates gibbs and santos, gervinho and benayoun, ramsey and rosicky, kos and per etc.
4, The tendency to have a blip when we play smaller clubs is a result of our inconsistencies which is caused by our poor squad. The stronger a squad is the more games they win against smaller teams. If you want a better squad then make more money available. And, smaller clubs should be given credit too as they're improving.
5, To say wenger doesnt moltivate the players is rubbish. Moltivation made them beat chelsea, spurs, pool, ac millan etc. Which top player needs moltivation to beat norwich? There is only how far moltivation can take a team. What is needed to get more consistent results is better quality players throughout the squad.
6, There is nothing new about wenger giving names from different clubs to gazides. The only new thing about wenger's transfers now is he buys more matured, physically and mentally stronger players.
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Once again Eduardo, you let your arrogance that makes you hell bent on defending the board at the expense of wenger, blind you to minor important details.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
20/05/2012 23:35
Wenegr is thinking long-term to rebuild the TEAM.
It is a 3-year project and AUg-31 is still a long way off with 2 major events - London Olympic and Euro2012 - that will unearth some bargains by Wenger.

FOr better or worse, we are stuck with Wenger for 2 more years...and with new sponsorships of 50-mil kicking in in 2014/15, Wenger may stay on to complete Project Youth with money to buy marquee players if he finally has a TEAM he can groom into title-winner.

No title-winning team, he will walk as he can't improve 'em.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
younghansolo (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 15:07
Nothing personal Ed, as I really like this piece but I have to question anyone who makes claims about potential signings. Especially suggesting we are looking at this many.

I pray you're right on eriksson though.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
flynchstone (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 20:15
Well of course they're going to look at lots of players, we'll do well to sign one of the above.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
younghansolo (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 09:14
Yeah look at them in the same sense as us. Watching a game on ESPN from Russian league 2 or whatever and going "he looks a good player"

Not quite the same as actually watching with intent to buy

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
tigerline (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 23:55
Ed, are there no rumblings yet about bringing in an experienced goalkeeper to support szczesny?

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
eduardo (IP Logged)
23/05/2012 00:16
in the last few days reports in norway suggest we are scouting Kenneth Udjus, [en.wikipedia.org]



*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
seanski (IP Logged)
23/05/2012 05:14
Nice solid post without any of the hysteria which has become too prevalent on this board. What is certainly clear is that the club will ensure that the debacle that was last year's tranfer season will be avoided at all costs.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
23/05/2012 06:56
only time will tell if wenger plus the myopic board are indeed changing their ways.. the points being made i will agree on but what difference will it make if in the end its still the same old same old. which quality player in their right mind will sign a contract extension or want to play in a club were 3rd place is considered a trophy?? none in their right mind.



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Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 20:50
I like to think of Arsenal Times as a Broad Church. there are those who think Wenger should stay for life, others who think he should have gone last week, and all shades of opinion in between, but we are all, nearly all united in wanting to see Arsenal win a trophy.

I say nearly all because there is a weird subset of extremists who dont mind if we never win anything at all as long as we are third, and then at the other end a tiny minority that dont want us to win at all so we wont finish in top four.

I realise that many consider the view odd that the manager should have ambition to win a trophy, also that a manager should study the tactics of the opposition and teach defence.

I confess I belong to that minority that believe trophies, tactics and defence is important and that Wenger doesnt. Oh well you cant have everything, apart from not caring about trophies, tactics or defence he really fits the Arsenal job to a tee, he fits in with the directors very well



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
jcw1989 (IP Logged)
25/05/2012 21:47
I dont think we need to really change the transfer structure to much because we will always attract top players and wenger is still good at spotting talent before they are at their best but we do need to change our wage structure more to keep the players we have got and pay the top players are getting attracted to city, utd and chelski ect.

 
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Jack_is_the_truth (IP Logged)
26/05/2012 12:29
too many words



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Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
26/05/2012 19:02
I'll put some pictures up later, probbaly of grapefruit



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
RadioFreeArsenal (IP Logged)
29/05/2012 15:12
Quote:
jcw1989
I dont think we need to really change the transfer structure to much because we will always attract top players and wenger is still good at spotting talent before they are at their best but we do need to change our wage structure more to keep the players we have got and pay the top players are getting attracted to city, utd and chelski ect.

I think there is something to this.

The problem for me is that the Board don't want to risy that because it invites the possibility of having to pny up bigger fees than they want paid out for players we cannot otherwise buy even if we offer sufficient wages to get them to agrre to come here.

See so long as the wage structure is as is the know they save s.hitloads of money because there is no point trying to sign the players who also would command higher transfer fees. We make more money then by not spending what we have. And we also get to sell our best players at handsome profits by keeping the wage structure as is.

And the best part is the Board can insist that its not their fault, that money is available to spend if the manager wants - just leaving out the bit about how they know it will be impossible to spend on the kind of players it should be spent on and thus won't be spent.

So the wage structure allows the Club to make money coming and going while still pretending that isn't their desire.\


And the big irony is that we can't even seriously contemplate a free-agent team-building philosophy because if we had to pay out similarly to what paid Sol Campbell in his first stint it would expose our unwillingness to spend to keep our best players rather than cash in at a profit from them any chance we have. It would expose that Arsenal has been all about profit to boost value since 2005 really.

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Billythekid (IP Logged)
30/05/2012 13:51
Quote:
Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete

Kidnapping Choilsea and Citeh players ?!

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
02/06/2012 23:51
get this summer wrong and its a tricky old season ahead once more and i dont think wenger will cope with another bout of stress from fans like he got this season

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
mapleleafgooner (IP Logged)
05/06/2012 13:45
The one player who could fix our midfield creative issues and sell lots of shirts in one go. At 16m pound I guess it is too rich for Wenger.

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United confirm Kagawa deal
June 5, 2012
By ESPN staff

Manchester United have confirmed they have "agreed terms" for the transfer of Shinji Kagawa from Borussia Dortmund.
Dortmund midfielder Kagawa, 23, will join United this summer for a fee reportedly in the region of £16 million, subject to a medical and work permit.

It was reported at the end of May that the Red Devils were closing in on the capture of the Japan international after he was scouted by Sir Alex Ferguson.

A statement on United's official website read: "Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has agreed terms with both Borussia Dortmund and Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to the Club.

"The deal is subject only to the player medical and obtaining a UK work permit. These conditions are anticipated to be completed by the end of June. Further details will be announced in due course."

United defender Rio Ferdinand added on his Twitter account: "Welcome to Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to Man Utd. heres to a succesful time here bro!"

Kagawa signed for Dortmund from Cerezo Osaka in 2010. He lifted the Bundesliga title in his first season at the club before helping them retain the trophy this season and also claim DFB-Pokal glory.

Speaking later on Tuesday, Kagawa told Kyodo News after training with his national team ahead of games against Jordan and Australia: "The transfer is not complete for the time being. I have yet to sign the contract.

"The team and I are fully concentrated on the next two games. It's better if we talk about (the transfer) after those matches. I want to focus on playing well over the next few weeks."

 
Re: Transfers: Wenger changing ways to compete
eduardo (IP Logged)
05/06/2012 14:19
or maybe kagawa wanted to join utd



*Signing Ozil is a signing Bergkamp type moment for Arsenal. It changes things utterly.*

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