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Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing

Contract pays off
By Boris Mellor
January 10 2010
Fabregas wrote in his Captain Notes, "There is no point in rushing it, and Bolton away is a reasonable target for me". This is surprising as the press, and Wenger, have given the impression he will return in late January. However, I hope it is Cesc that is right, as yesterday showed that without him and Song it is a bridge too far.

Everton won the battle of the midfield and cut off the supply to Arshavin and Eduardo. Fellaini was immense, I couldn't resist the pun, but it was true. He dominated throughout. Arsenal only had four shots on target the whole game, and three off. This was in spite of dominating possession 60% to 40%. What it demonstrates is that more guile was needed, the effort was more or less there, if not in the first half, it was in the second.

It would be unfair to criticise Eduardo, or Arshavin as the strain of playing without a striker is beginning to show. The goals came from deflections, although it looks like Rosicky's shot was heading in anyway.

It is not often that Wenger admits that the opposition could have won 3-1, and it's not often the opposition has more chances than Arsenal. Everton had 4 on target and 4 off. True it was only one more, but it is not often the opposition has the same number of chances.

Nonetheless Arsenal did show spirit, and if the correct amount of injury time had been allowed they might have done more than equalise. This could prove to be a very big point if the title race runs as close as some have predicted.

It is not often that Arsenal concedes two at home, but the threat of Everton got in under the radar; after all they scored three at Stamford Bridge. Perhaps having been thrashed 6-1 earlier in the season also explains their determination. Vermaelen can talk about stupid goals, but how stupid is having everyone, except Traore, in Everton's half for the second goal?

Traore, who got no support on the left flank at all, was already having a ragged time, so he was hardly the candidate for the lone defender. The goals conceded also reflected the fact that Denilson failed to shield the defence as effectively as Song does. Likewise the midfield missed Song's driving runs, and astute passing. There was too much crab ball going on.

Striker needed ASAP

Maybe if Fab comes back the midfield will cope without Song, if not the adjustment period may take longer. It is also now clear that Arsenal need a striker as soon as possible, not just to provide goals, but to provide opportunities for the diddy men.

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Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
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Date: 10/01/2010 11:49

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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 11:52

The same Denilson who was more of an attacking threat than Arshavin didn't replace Song's attacking abilities...

Why not blame the attackers for being poor at attacking?




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Bee#4 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 11:56

Im a bit worried about the DM position after yesterday tbh. If Bendtner is fit(ish) a week from now i think we will be ok in the strikers department. Denilson i like him but is he the answer to fill in for Song? I really hope Fabregas isn't pushed back there considering the form he was in...

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 12:02

Oh no...




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 12:28

If Fab is fit Diaby might have to go there.
Even if Nik is fit (which a s several weeks away) the next time he is injured we will be back in same position



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Bee#4 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 12:44

I thought Wenger said earlier this week that Bendtner would be back in 2 weeks? So Bendtner starting at Stoke in the FA CUP on the 24th is not outta the question is it? We only have 1 game before that next week at Bolton. Althouh i have a sneaky suspicion our Bolton at home match will be reschedueled to the 20th or 21st January.

Rosicky likes a good tackle why not try him there with Diaby and Fabregas in front of him? Maybe not away from home though...

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 14:58

More snow storms on the way.
Plus this present arctic conditions will remain for 10 days or more.

Next weekend matches maybe all postpone if weather continues to get worse.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 18:06

I didnt think Denilson was that bad, he just isnt a Song or a Fellaini, thats not his fault, but thats what Everton had and we didnt.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 18:43

He's far better than Fellaini. Nobody said he was a Song. He is as good as Song in his individual position between the attacking and defensive midfielder in the trio, but when asked to sit firther back he does an admirable job, better than most of the guys touted as signings.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Bee#4 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 18:59

He does do an admirable job Tom, my only question is out of all the midfield options we have, is Denilson best suited to take over as DM for the time being? I only talk at this current time of replacing Denilson there cos it looks to me that he's gonna be out for a long period of time. And if that is the case we have to start thinking who we're gonna play there until either Denilson or Song returns.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 19:01

Denilson was the only option, and a very good back up at that. With both of them gone you either have Ramsey, Rosicky or Eastmond.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: celine dion (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 19:41

Fellaini p*ssed all over all our midfielders mate. There was no 2 ways about it.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 19:53

Who said he didn't? On that day he was by far the best midfielder on the park.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 20:25

Eh? Who?
Fellaini was best midfielder on the day, what game are you on abot Tom14?



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 20:30

Eh? Who?
Can you read?




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 20:41

Yes I can read, cut out the abuse. This is what I read "He's far better than Fellaini."

Not yesterday he wasnt



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 21:30

he is far better than Fellaini, but I did go on to say Fellaini was "by far the best midfielder on the park".




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 22:57

Quote: "He's far better than Fellaini. Nobody said he was a Song. He is as good as Song in his individual position between the attacking and defensive midfielder in the trio, but when asked to sit firther back he does an admirable job, better than most of the guys touted as signings"

No mention of Fellaini in this post of yours Tom, and thats what I based my post on



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 22:59

Well why don't you read the other posts then? And maybe I would start reading your articles (Sm128)




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/01/2010 23:57

Quote:
Goofle
Well why don't you read the other posts then? And maybe I would start reading your articles (Sm128)

oh moi god, you sad sack of a flaming LGBT!
It is disgusting to read so much of your blind love for your lover-boy.

if Everton has your lover butch of a boy, and Arsenal has Felliani, it will be a cakewalk of an Arsenal 3-0 victory.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:01

Im crying now. Stop making my cry with your insane wit.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:06

Quote:
Goofle
Im crying now. Stop making my cry with your insane wit.

Don't cry over spilled milk kiddo.
Just move onto the enxt swollen udder.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:09

When you complete a totally accurate post I will move on.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:13

Quote:
Goofle
When you complete a totally accurate post I will move on.

Move on, kiddo, your mooomma mooing again.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
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Date: 11/01/2010 00:15


Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:16

Youa re spillign milk!
Try to complete one task at a time, kiddo.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:18

Why don't you repeat the same thing over and over again? People might start finding your nothingness hilarious.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2010 00:22

Quote:
Goofle
Why don't you repeat the same thing over and over again? People might start finding your nothingness hilarious.

Now who is talking..DENILSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOONNNNNN!!! (Sm22)

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: SaltnPeppah (IP Logged)
Date: 13/01/2010 18:23

"Uddering" nonsense all day long is what goofy does. Clueless bellend.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 04:45

Quote:
SaltnPeppah
"Uddering" nonsense all day long is what goofy does. Clueless bellend.


thumbs down

he's a t0sser



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 09:48

Its funny because nobody has ever proved me incorrect. I rule the world!




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 10:32

your a c*nt



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Chapman's Ghost (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 10:48

Quote:
Goofle
Its funny because nobody has ever proved me incorrect. I rule the world!

One recalls that drubbing you forecast we were going
to give Burnley.

But in everything else you've been spot on.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: karsene16 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 10:51

Diaby didn't get sold in the summer. Song is a better DM than Denilson.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Chapman's Ghost (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 10:54

Quote:
karsene16
Diaby didn't get sold in the summer. Song is a better DM than Denilson.

But in everything else he's been spot on.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 10:59

leave melt14 alone!



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 12:22

Nope, not one comment I have posted has been incorrect (apart from thinking Diaby had a bad first touch on his AZ goal). Everything else is far superior to the general human being.

Never said Denilson was a better DM than Song, never said Diaby was a bad player, just didn't apply himself well enough (the fact that he is now starting to do so sort of proves me right) and all the stuff about van Persie, Wenger not being a terrible manager who should be sacked, Liverpool having a poor squad, Man City not being good enough to win the league etc etc etc.

I am the boss!




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 12:37

Quote:
Goofle
Nope, not one comment I have posted has been incorrect (apart from thinking Diaby had a bad first touch on his AZ goal). Everything else is far superior to the general human being.
Never said Denilson was a better DM than Song, never said Diaby was a bad player, just didn't apply himself well enough (the fact that he is now starting to do so sort of proves me right) and all the stuff about van Persie, Wenger not being a terrible manager who should be sacked, Liverpool having a poor squad, Man City not being good enough to win the league etc etc etc.

I am the boss!


Megalomania is an unrealistic belief in one's superiority, grandiose abilities, and even omnipotence. It is characterized by a need for total power and control over others, and is marked by a lack of empathy for anything that is perceived as not feeding the self.

Although megalomania is a term often ascribed to anyone who is power-hungry, the clinical definition is that of a mental illness associated with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

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Narcissism is most simply defined as self-love. Though it is considered healthy to care about your own well-being and have a healthy self-esteem, when someone loves himself to the exclusion of all else and others become objectified to be used only to serve the self, this is no longer considered healthy or normal.

There are different psychological theories about how and why NPD develops, most of which relate to the integration of different aspects of ego and self as a child, and the nature of the parental roles in that process. Regardless of theory, NPD is characterized by extremely low self-esteem, which is compensated for by delusions of grandeur and megalomania, a narcissistic neuroses. With the propensity to act only on behalf of one's self, the unbridled need to feed one's ego, and the objectification of others to serve the power-hungry needs of megalomania, it is easy to see how this can be a recipe for disaster, especially when wrapped in a charismatic personality.

One of the most well known examples of megalomania in modern history was Adolf Hitler. A street waif, Hitler wasn't content rising through the ranks to become the military leader of Germany. His megalomania drove him to aspire to conquer the entire world. Being born into a "superior race" also wasn't enough for the mentally ill Hitler. Instead, he wanted to wipe out all other races. This need to destroy everything outside of what he perceived as an extension of himself is a classic though horrifically illustrated example of megalomania. Paradoxically, a person who exhibits such tremendous ego and self-confidence in reality has such low self-esteem and such a fragile ego that he cannot abide any expression other than his own, for fear of annihilation of the self. Therefore everything that is not under his control is perceived as a threat.

While genocide is an extreme example, serial killers may also suffer from megalomania. They objectify, then sacrifice their victims to exercise total control with a complete lack of empathy for the suffering of others.

The principles or characteristics of NPD and megalomania can also be expressed in lesser degrees or in a different fashion by those we might consider more mainstream than genocidal maniacs and serial killers. Among dictators, fundamentalists, and politicians we find those who view themselves as morally superior with the willingness to sacrifice, kill, or risk the safety of others considered inferior in order to assert their own agendas. Though there are legitimate circumstances in which leaders must exercise civil or military force, or religious zealots can profess solemn beliefs, the line between religiosity and fanaticism, between duty and megalomania, can be a gray one. This is how the term has become part of our culture's vernacular.

Megalomania is also sometimes associated with bipolar disorder; a depressive illness that is characterized by mood swings from extreme lows to extreme highs. During the latter cycle, people often suffer delusions of grandeur and feelings of infinite capability. They talk about unrealistic plans and goals as if these plans and goals are within their grasp.

Schizophrenia, a mental illness characterized by delusions, hallucinations and extreme paranoia, is also often found alongside megalomania.


NPD, megalomania, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia can all be treated with medications. If you or someone you know is experiencing manic moods, unrealistic delusions or antisocial behavior, professional treatment is necessary. Unlike a virus or cold, these disorders will not improve without treatment.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 12:40

megalomania
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megalomania /meg·a·lo·ma·nia/ (-ma“ne-ah) unreasonable conviction of one's own extreme greatness, goodness, or power.megaloma“niac
Dorland's Medical Dictionary for Health Consumers. © 2007 by Saunders, an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.

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meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a (mg-l-mn-, -mny)
n.
1. A psychopathological condition in which delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence predominate.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.
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mega·lo·mani·ac n.
mega·lo·ma·nia·cal (-m-n-kl), mega·lo·manic (-mnk) adj.

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megalomania
[meg′əlōmā′nē·ə]
Etymology: Gk, megas + mania, madness
an abnormal mental state characterized by delusions of grandeur in which one believes oneself to be a person of great importance, power, fame, or wealth. Also called grandiosity. See also mania.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. © 2009, Elsevier.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 12:40

Didn't read one word of that. Im sure its about aids or something anyway, nobody cares.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: karsene16 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 13:39

Quote:
Goofle
Never said Denilson was a better DM than Song, never said Diaby was a bad player, just didn't apply himself well enough (the fact that he is now starting to do so sort of proves me right) and all the stuff about van Persie, Wenger not being a terrible manager who should be sacked, Liverpool having a poor squad, Man City not being good enough to win the league etc etc etc.

I am the boss!

I'll give you something to talk about Tom.

You've never said Denilson was a better DM than Song(Sm2)
You've never said Diaby was a bad player(Sm2)(Sm22)

What did you actually say about Van Persie either than he should play up front which everyone knows? Some just thought deploying him a a RW was a good idea seeing as they've watched him there for holland and he was having countless great games.(and playing RM is totally different from RW)
And the jury's still out on if he's injury prone but watching him for 6 years(o.k 5 the first one can't be counted) and seeing him complete 1 should be questioned.

Who doesn't know Wenger's a good manager?

Fair enough, you held the line when it came to liverpool having a poorer squad than us.

Man City not good enough to win the league shows your genius.(What are the odds on them not winning the league.)

but you were the first to say City won't be in the top 4 and liverpool won't struggle to be in the top 4 and it's looking quite unclear ATM.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 14:00

f*ck knows why you bother talking football with a cyber warrior melt who goes to a game a season



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 14:23

Definition of a "melt" aka Tom14:

His moomma must had birth him through the rectum and fed Tom14 sh*t from the very first second of conception.

Like Fatman Gooner proclaimed - Tom14 luv it up hsi a.s.s.

This is Tom14's problem due to his conception/ birth place:

Freud's Psychosexual Stage Theory


Explanations > Learning Theory > Freud's Psychosexual Stage Theory

The stages | Fixation | So what



Sigmund Freud developed a theory of how our sexuality starts from a very young ages and develops through various fixations. If these stages are not psychologically completed and released, we can be trapped by them and they may lead to various defense mechanisms to avoid the anxiety produced from the conflict in and leaving of the stage.

The stages


Age Name Pleasure source Conflict
0-2 Oral Mouth: sucking, biting, swallowing Weaning away from mother's breast
2-4 Anal Anus: defecating or retaining faeces Toilet training

4-5 Phallic Genitals Oedipus (boys), Electra (girls)
6-puberty Latency Sexual urges sublimated into sports and hobbies. Same-sex friends also help avoid sexual feelings.
puberty onward Genital Physical sexual changes reawaken repressed needs.
Direct sexual feelings towards others lead to sexual gratification.
Social rules

Fixation
Strong conflict can fixate people at early stages.

Oral fixation
Oral fixation has two possible outcomes.

The Oral receptive personality is preoccupied with eating/drinking and reduces tension through oral activity such as eating, drinking, smoking, biting nails. They are generally passive, needy and sensitive to rejection. They will easily 'swallow' other people's ideas.
The Oral aggressive personality is hostile and verbally abusive to others, using mouth-based aggression.
Anal fixation
Anal fixation, which may be caused by too much punishment during toilet training, has two possible outcomes.

The Anal retentive personality is stingy, with a compulsive seeking of order and tidiness. The person is generally stubborn and perfectionist. The Anal expulsive personality is an opposite of the Anal retentive personality, and has a lack of self control, being generally messy and careless.
Phallic fixation
At the age of 5 or 6, near the end of the phallic stage, boys experience the Oedipus Complex whilst girls experience the Electra conflict, which is a process through which they learn to identify with the same gender parent by acting as much like that parent as possible.

Boys suffer a castration anxiety, where the son believes his father knows about his desire for his mother and hence fears his father will castrate him. He thus represses his desire and defensively identifies with his father.

Girls suffer a penis envy, where the daughter is initially attached to her mother, but then a shift of attachment occurs when she realizes she lacks a penis. She desires her father whom she sees as a means to obtain a penis substitute (a child). She then represses her desire for her father and incorporates the values of her mother and accepts her inherent 'inferiority' in society.

This is Freud, remember. He later also recanted, noting that perhaps he had placed too much emphasis on sexual connotations.

So what?
Freud's theories are largely criticized now as lacking in substantial corroborative data. He was, however, using a model to describe observed behavior. His ideas may thus still be used as metaphors for actual developmental issues.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: karsene16 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 14:26

Recently we tried to come to an agreement that he doesn't answer any of my posts but he answered the VERY FIRST POST after that.

It's more down to he bothers with us.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: karsene16 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 14:31

I reckon Tom's calmed down a bit from last season, take no notice.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 16:47

k16, she/it/he is busily suckling..

The Oral aggressive personality is hostile and verbally abusive to others, using mouth-based aggression.

Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: karsene16 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 17:00

I'm above it.



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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Goofle11 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 17:51

You are 'above it' (Sm105)

Im literally controlling you. Its pathetic watching Merl and pk getting so worked up about it.




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Re: Fabregas could be back for Bolton - guile not effort missing
Posted by: Merlion96 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2010 23:34

Quote:
Goofle
You are 'above it' (Sm105)
Im literally controlling you. Its pathetic watching Merl and pk getting so worked up about it.

The Oral aggressive personality is hostile and verbally abusive to others, using mouth-based aggression.

(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)



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