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the baldy one
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new zealand
15 March, 2019 14:28
i would just like to pass on my best wishes and condolences to everyone in new Zealand for the dreadful attacks on 2 mosques a few hours ago in which 49 people were slain during morning prayers. from everyone at Tranmere rovers football club RIP.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
15 March, 2019 18:01
Do you work for Tranmere Rovers Football Club?

 
WirralWonders
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 02:57
Quote:
hong kong rover
Do you work for Tranmere Rovers Football Club?

Baldy wants to gain attention so he can feel important, that's what it is.



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gary anderson
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 10:31
+1

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 11:03
He was last seen heading for the mosque in Birkenhead to arrange his array of cards and suitably attired teddy bears

 
ming05
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 11:10
Why have people got a issue with what was said, as fans we are tranmere rovers football club. We should be agreeing with the sentiment of the original post.
The killing of innocent people is a vile and cowardly act.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 12:18
Fair comment Ming05 ,he should have said it as a personal sentiment not as a statement which Tranmere Rovers had been seen to have endorsed .the world has gone mad and I fear more of these type of attacks to come .mass migration the rise of Islam has got people fearing for their way of life and the changing structure of their country ,this type of outrage is a 2way street and over the years we will see more of it ,what’s the bet on a revenge attack somewhere any day soon ..I am jealous of the young ,for their youth ,but I don’t envy the world they are inheriting ,to many people not enough food /water ,machines / robots taking over jobs it’s started now the car industry is starting to fold ,shops closing everywhere every thing done on line, shopping,. Banking ,buying a car has started the buy on line ,trains ,planes automobiles will self drive ,robots being trained to operate on people and do everyday tasks .most of you will think I am completely mad but it’s coming to a town like yours one day within 50 years I would guess .thank god fifty won’t see another 50

 
rossb07
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 12:39
I think you may have watched back to the future too much 50 smiling smiley

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 13:00
Mark my words Ross ,Armegedon 👽is upon us ,don’t forget I still have my Chinese crystal ball ,never fails .book your family on the first trip out to Mars

 
rossb07
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 13:35
Didn’t this ball say we were going to be dragged into a potential relegation scrap? I say chuck the thing if we’re relying on everything to come out of that child slavery ridden place...

 
mrGr33n13
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 13:46
oh please fifty.

" I don’t envy the world they are inheriting ,to many people not enough food /water ,machines / robots taking over jobs it’s started now the car industry is starting to fold ,shops closing everywhere every thing done on line, shopping,. Banking ,buying a car has started the buy on line ,trains ,planes automobiles will self drive ,robots being trained to operate on people and do everyday tasks "


we literally throw food away it so plentiful. high yield crops, increasing efficiency in food production. it's meant food is more plentiful and cheaper than ever. the automation you fear is a boon to society.


farms employ about 1% of the people they employed 100 years ago but produce about 10x the food. so low paid workers dont get to break their back raking mud to produce a small amount of poor quality, expensive food.

why people think that automating tasks is going to make society poorer is beyond me.

we are moving to a society were stuff is going to be so cheap we wont even bother owning it. cars, tools etc etc will all be shared.

the biggest cost in good and services is human labour and soon we will be able to do without it. we can concentrate on that which makes our lives more lovely.

i, for one, welcome our robotic overlords.

the best way to prevent more attacks is to promote prosperity.

that means free market capitalism making us all richer.

the market is our road to prosperity, it's a beautiful thing that is our best chance of becoming even more free, prosperous and safe.

savour it.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 15:49
Sorry Mrgr ,yes ,in a perfect world ..so if human labour won’t be needed how do we pay for what we need .all happy families on the beach .in the park ,Leasure activities ,happiness abounds ? Don’t think so .you make it sound like the Christmas advert with mummy daddy ,boy ,girl sitting on the couch beaming with joy perfect family .half the world is starving ,no medical help and good old U.K. with food banks ,more people than ever living on the streets ,I do admire your optimism Mrgr but the perfect world you seem to see for the future won’t exist ,nothing is more certain in life since the caveman than those that have and those who don’t

 
mrGr33n13
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 17:01
the have-nots of tomorrow will have more than the haves of today.

that is true now.

imagine a peasant being brought forward 200 years to bill gates house.

what will he be most impressed with:

cars, electricity, running water, computers, phones, air travel, microwave ovens, toasters, aspirin.

all that is available to just about everyone in a western free market society; none of it was available to the top 1% of any society even 150 years ago.

we will be able to pay as we use technology instead of human labour. i don't know where the idea that prosperity is tied to people doing menial tasks for @#$%& pay. i mean we are very much poorer now we don't have chimney sweeping or low skilled textile workers anymore, innit.

technology makes workers more productive, and good and services cheaper.

the slope is one-way and we all benefit from it.

keep the faith, sir.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 17:46
27th January 2019 - 29 Christians blown to smithereens at a Roman Catholic church in Jolo in the Southern Philippines, by a bomb planted by Abu Sayef/IS Muslims.

26th February 2019 - 32 Christians torched and shot to death, in a church where they had gone to pray, by Muslims in an ongoing systematic violent campaign by Muslims towards Christians in Moro, Nigeria.


These two massacres and not a word , where was all the condemnations from World leaders and the world press then? I tell you where,, NOWHERE, not a word.

This latest atrocity in NZ and its gone crazy in the press with all these utterly awful Western leaders and Muslims expecting the whole world to come out and unite in this grief...yet NOT A WORD or any sympathy from any of these Muslims or global leaders whatsoever, and hardly any press coverage, when Christians are being butchered in The Philippines and Nigeria..



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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 18:12
In an ever changing UK, migrants are making up the numbers in electoral votes. The likes of Labour need them to win elections, the effects on community have become irrelevant. its all become a power play for parliamentary control..F**k all these politicians and governments that pass laws in the dead of night with no debate or consultation whatsoever, these cnuts would rather help outsiders than they would their very own people ( suddenly told overnight that your new next door neighbor is a Somalian terrorist refugee that despises the West and our way of life then gets his housing, bills and health care all paid for )..this whole idea that we should all live in a nice, peaceful, harmonious, multi cultural society sounds perfect but it will never work.. China is the way forward, the world economy and bank is heading out this way and the Chinese leaders look after their own people first and they will not mess about when it comes to stamping out terrorism within their borders.



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mrGr33n13
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 18:40
Western v non western hkr

An English speaking westerner killing many in a Western society always garners more attention than a similar # of deaths in a non western society that doesn't share our language

There's much higher counts of dead Muslims in non western society that do not get any coverage.

The idea that Muslims are given special privileges in western media is pure ignorance.

 
Uptonrover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 18:43
Hkr i wouldnt say i sit in front of the news all day but i have various news apps on my phone and look through them at various points throughout the day. I didnt even know these two events you mention have happened.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 18:48
Anti-natalism is the way forward, the planet would be a far better place then.. its starting to happen in places like Japan.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 18:58
Did anyone recently read about this guy in India that is planning to sue his parents for giving birth to him without his consent, lol..both of his parents are lawyers, lol..his argument, why should I be born into a world of nothing but suffering, human existence is totally pointless, the world is far better off with just the animals n plants etc etc.. apparently his parents are dealing with it with a lot of humour.

 
mrGr33n13
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 19:06
They should just given him the option of a post natal abortion

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 19:26
Anyway back to the football, can anyone remember when Tranmere beat the New Zealand national side 7-0 at Prenton back in 1992? I went to that game..i cant remember what the New Zealand side were doing in the UK? I think they were just on a tour of playing friendlies against a number of English club sides.

 
Loyden1
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:02
I went the game but don't remember why we played them.I'm sure someone on here will enlighten us

 
mrGr33n13
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:04
The highlights of the game are on a Twitter feed.

Some great football played

 
Uptonrover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:09
They were doing build up work prior to their World cup qualification games. Think they actually drew or were narrowly beaten by Celtic prior to playing us. From memory Graham Branch got 4 and it was valentines night?

 
Uptonrover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:18
396. Friendly
Feb 14, Birkenhead, Prenton Park Stadium, 3772
Tranmere Rovers 7-0 New Zealand
(John Aldridge 6', x', y', z', Ian Muir 35', x+1', Graeme Branch)
Tranmere Rovers (England):
Eric Nixon (Paul Collings 46'), Dave Higgins (Mark Hughes 46'), Ian Nolan,
Kenny Irons (Graeme Branch 46'), Dave Martindale (Jim Harvey 46'), Steve Vickers,
John Morrissey, John Aldridge, Chris Malkin (John McGreal 46'), Ian Muir,
Tony Thomas.
Coach: John King.
New Zealand:
Clint Gosling, Michael Ridenton, Garry Lund, Rodger Gray, Chris Zoricich, Chris
Riley, Robert Ironside, Alun Evans (Thomas Edge 56'), Wynton Rufer, Vaughan
Coveny, Michael McGarry (Shane Rufer 80').
Coach: Ian Marshall (assisted by Kevin Fallon).
Referee:
Terry Lunt (Maghull, England).
Notes:
Conditions were cold with drizzle but the pitch was in a good state. The halftime
score was 2-0. Goal marked x' was the first goal of the second half (apparently before
the hour mark). Graeme Branch scored the seventh and final goal of the match.
Tranmere Rovers played in the Football League Second Division (2nd tier of the English
football league system).

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:23
Wow! Wynton Rufer, I remember that name, blast from the past, think he had a successful club career in Germany iirc.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 20:38
ive just checked his wiki page, he is probably one of New Zealands best ever players..he scored 105 goals in 243 games for Werder Bremen..his strike partner at Bremen is another blast from the past name, Klaus Allofs.



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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 21:10
Maybe we could start a new thread of some famous old blast from the past players that we have probably all forgotten about now..i will start off with the Hibbitt brothers, Kenny for Wolves and his brother Terry for Newcastle.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 21:19
Irving Nattrass at Middlesbrough, Mel Machin at Norwich City.



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Uptonrover
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 21:39
That explains possibly why when New Zealand did their tour over here they then went home and played Werder Bremen 3 times

 
Beamish Screamer
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Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 22:08
Who can remember Ernie Hunt of Coventry City and the "donkey" free kick

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
16 March, 2019 22:59
Quote:
mrGr33n13
the have-nots of tomorrow will have more than the haves of today.
that is true now.

imagine a peasant being brought forward 200 years to bill gates house.

what will he be most impressed with:

cars, electricity, running water, computers, phones, air travel, microwave ovens, toasters, aspirin.

all that is available to just about everyone in a western free market society; none of it was available to the top 1% of any society even 150 years ago.

we will be able to pay as we use technology instead of human labour. i don't know where the idea that prosperity is tied to people doing menial tasks for @#$%& pay. i mean we are very much poorer now we don't have chimney sweeping or low skilled textile workers anymore, innit.

technology makes workers more productive, and good and services cheaper.

the slope is one-way and we all benefit from it.

keep the faith, sir.

(Sm133) Hit me where it hurts. My job is being deleted over the next few months, so it's nice to know you care.



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mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 08:29
Hey man, I care.

Progress does hurt a few. Software is going to eat a lot of jobs. Radiography, accoutning, driving and customer service jobs are likely going to wall over the next twenty years or so. All those people will find it as difficult as textile workers, farm hands and shoe makers did when those jobs went. I do think we'll see violence as we did when textile jobs went. But well get through it and be better off when we do. Noone longs for the return of blacksmiths or wool workers.

there will be new jobs created. We simply don't know what they will be. Most of the jobs that exist today did not exist forty years ago. Like noone in the eighties grew up wanting to be a website designer, as there were no websites.

Creative destruction is the famous phrase by schumpeter, he nailed it.

I think we'll see a universal basic income implemented whereby everyone receives a payment of around a grand a month off the government.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 08:56
Very sorry to hear that Phil65 but you will be fine ,in mrgr world you will be provided for .everyone will share you know .you only have to look at the impact the giant looms made to the cotton industry, overnight whole towns thrown on the scrap heap ,the mill owners made a fortune .mines and shipyards all gone ,look at the devastation it done to people’s lives .fishing industry all gone .people need to work ,it’s good for them ,the friends you acquire, gives you money to buy a house ,car,,it enables you to have holidays look after your family you need a purpose to get up for in the morning ,I realise if you hate your job it’s not much fun ,I loved my job driving through Vienna or Swiss Alps I used to think wow I am getting paid for this .1/2 weeks away at a time but I became self sufficient met many good people seen many sights like Monte Casino ,Rome ,Naples. in mrgr version we can all stay at home and have free time for hobbies ,family etc .it won’t work there is only so much time you can spend with people and hobbies you run out of things to do and say .the young are losing their ability to converse there head is glued to some devise it’s all texting it comes as a shock if one speaks ,people even text each other in the same house what’s that about .as mrgr would say it’s the modern world ,it’s all good innit

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 09:01
Quote:
Beamish Screamer
Who can remember Ernie Hunt of Coventry City and the "donkey" free kick

Yes, I remember that..its a goal that is quite high up in the BBC Match of the Day archives, it came against Everton at the old Highfield Rd ground.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 09:07
Football again Steve Bull Wolves ,always scored against us

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 09:24
Some blast from the past Rovers players that dont get talked about much today, John Kelly, son of Noel..I wonder whatever happened to John Kelly?

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 10:00
LLoyd Iceton ,Kenny Macdevit ,Tommy Egglington Cyril Done ,and my favourite Abe Rosenthal Ron Yeats Jim Harvey ,Jim steel Nevin ,Hughes, Morrisey . the list is endless

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 11:16
One thing I miss from modern football the the role of the mercurial talent.

Someone who maybe lacks the workrate, fitness or tactic astuteness to make it, but who can add colour to a team.

Most teams had one luxury player.

Roy wregerle, Dalian Atkinson, Paul Walsh, Clive mendonca, Marco gabbiadini, ivano bonetti, Ricky Otto we salute you

 
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Tranmere69 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 11:32
Quote:
mrGr33n13
One thing I miss from modern football the the role of the mercurial talent.
Someone who maybe lacks the workrate, fitness or tactic astuteness to make it, but who can add colour to a team.

Most teams had one luxury player.

Roy wregerle, Dalian Atkinson, Paul Walsh, Clive mendonca, Marco gabbiadini, ivano bonetti, Ricky Otto we salute you
What about Duncan McKenzie !

 
rossb07
rossb07 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 11:42
Quote:
mrGr33n13
One thing I miss from modern football the the role of the mercurial talent.
Someone who maybe lacks the workrate, fitness or tactic astuteness to make it, but who can add colour to a team.

Most teams had one luxury player.

Roy wregerle, Dalian Atkinson, Paul Walsh, Clive mendonca, Marco gabbiadini, ivano bonetti, Ricky Otto we salute you

Could say ours was Larnell Cole for the promotion season.

Very good player but obviously something (maybe personal) always seemed to hamper him.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 11:59
Quote:
Tranmere69
Quote:
mrGr33n13
One thing I miss from modern football the the role of the mercurial talent.
Someone who maybe lacks the workrate, fitness or tactic astuteness to make it, but who can add colour to a team.

Most teams had one luxury player.

Roy wregerle, Dalian Atkinson, Paul Walsh, Clive mendonca, Marco gabbiadini, ivano bonetti, Ricky Otto we salute you
What about Duncan McKenzie !

Duncan McKenzie, we are beginning to enter maverick territory here,, he sure was a talented player.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 12:03
Quote:
mrGr33n13
One thing I miss from modern football the the role of the mercurial talent.
Someone who maybe lacks the workrate, fitness or tactic astuteness to make it, but who can add colour to a team.

Most teams had one luxury player.

Roy wregerle, Dalian Atkinson, Paul Walsh, Clive mendonca, Marco gabbiadini, ivano bonetti, Ricky Otto we salute you

Yes. Ivano Bonetti

 
Uptonrover
Uptonrover (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 12:05
Remember being obsessed with Roy Wegerle for the simple fact that i thought his hair was cool!



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the baldy one
the baldy one (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 12:32
uptonrover - talking about roy Wegerle he once scored one of the best goals ever scored against leeds united at elland for qpr. he started over on the far side on the wing just inside the leeds half and he glided past about 5 leeds players and from about 12 yards placed it in the bottom corner in front of the big leeds kop and quite a lot of leeds fans applauded the goal as it was so good. qpr won 3-2.

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: new zealand
17 March, 2019 17:52
These types of players would often dominante goal of the month segments but never win medals.

Atkinson, Sinclair, le tiss and even Clive Allen

Clive Allen scored one of the most enigmatically beautiful goals ever. Seriously YouTube it. It's mesmerising. I defy anyone to watch it just once. It'd be like eating a jam doughnut without licking your lips.

Clive Allen was a pudding of player who went on a mad one for a whole season and plundered forty odd goals. Guy whittingham is another people might remember as a one season wonder. Left the army, joined Portsmouth and averaged a goal a game for one season. Never did much after.


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