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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 11:17
I watched the big heavyweight bout yesterday and what a complete joke that it ended in a draw. Fury won that fight all day long. It was beyond heroic how he got up from that final round ko but that was never enough for Wilder to get a very undeserved draw. Heavyweight boxing has been a joke for a while now and after ydays decision its now become much more of a joke..world boxing cannot have a 400 lb former cocaine addicted gypsy as world champ, it ruins the image..pathetic decision yday..is sport sport anymore..? Joke decisions in boxing, rampant cheating from footy players, ball tampering in cricket, drugs in athletics n cycling and other sports, chronic match fixing in snooker and footy and am sure a helluva lot more of it goes on than is disclosed and the old well used and hackneyed phrase that money has ruined sport still rings true.



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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 11:28
Currently the state of heavyweight boxing is far far more embarrassing than the antics of Tyson Fury. They only want a Wilder v Joshua unification bout.. Fury had that fight all day long yday.

 
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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 12:12
Can't shed a single tear if Fury was robbed. Sorry hkr.

 
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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 13:09
That was a truly great sporting occasion.

A fighting man battles demons, depression, a rampant coke addiction - losing ten stone and a couple of suicide attempts on the way - in order to fight a knock out specialist.

He schools him for 12 rounds but is knocked out cold in the last round. Full on eyes closed, arm twitching out.

And he rises on the 6 count and finish the fight the stronger man. That mans life was encapsulated in that round. It was sport at its most visceral.

Fury is a class above.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 13:32
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mrGr33n13
That was a truly great sporting occasion.
A fighting man battles demons, depression, a rampant coke addiction - losing ten stone and a couple of suicide attempts on the way - in order to fight a knock out specialist.

He schools him for 12 rounds but is knocked out cold in the last round. Full on eyes closed, arm twitching out.

And he rises on the 6 count and finish the fight the stronger man. That mans life was encapsulated in that round. It was sport at its most visceral.

Fury is a class above.

Good post..he sure was up against it in LA yday. Had to lose tons of weight, fight his personal probs and I thought the bout had come to soon after his longish lay off from the sport , yet he was the much better boxer than wilder. Wilder has a big right hand but there wasnt much else in his arsenal. Leads me on to AJ, no doubt he is maturing as a boxer but to me he is over hyped n overrated and if there was a pretty decent heavyweight out there then he would have joshua.

 
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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 14:15
Joshua has the physique of a body builder and a punch to go with it.A bout with Fury would be worth seeing.AJ for me to win it.Those blows delivered by Wilder will have softened up Fury up both physically and mentally.

 
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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 14:30
When u look at some of the big stars in the history of sport and the problems and eccentricities that they had , some of them can be admired and some not..Georgie best , had his chronic problems with alcohol and loved the ladies , chose his playboy lifestyle and was beyond help but was a nice fella. Ronnie o sullivan, the best player to have ever picked up a cue has had his depressions and although he does come out with some ridiculous comments at times but he is still greatly admired..then u look at hurricane higgins, undoubtedly did a helluva lot for the game of snooker but away from the table I think he was a nasty individual and not a particularly nice person to know..john mcenroe spoilt brat period and as for gazza, great footballer but most of his post football life is just self-pity.



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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 15:09
I think gazza was the last truly world class player england have ever had. Lineker n shearer n owen were very good international strikers but not world class like gerd muller and marco van basten. Gerrard n lampard were good international midfielders but can never be put in the same category as the likes of zidane. John terry a solid international centre back but not in the same league as bobby moore or beckenbauer or baresi and david seaman decent international keeper but there were others better eg buffon.



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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 16:00
I hope nobody mentions david beckham. By far the most over hyped n overrated footballers england have ever had. Ok he did score the odd important goal for england but apart from being a dead ball specialist and whipping over a few decent crosses there wasnt a great deal more to his game and he sure wasnt a maestro. When u compare the likes of zidane and cristiano ronaldo to beckham then they are miles upon miles apart. Zidane sheer world class, beckham sheer over hyped mediocrity.

 
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mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 19:11
beckham was a rolls royce of a player. technically no british player of recent times could touch him. gerrard, lampard, gazza etc were all expressive and imaginative players - but none as technically accomplished as beckham - scholes maybe close to him in terms of raw technique

his looks and lifestyle outside of football led people to underestimate him. he was a beast in training and dedicated his life to the art of striking a football. his fitness levels were always off the charts, and i doubt theres 10 footballers ahead of him when it comes to striking a ball. he could do at speed what golfers take 5 minutes to line up.

there's video reels of all his united goals, just watch that and marvel. there's not a scruffy punt amongst them. i heard a radio documentary a while back where a blind person was talking about the sweetest sound in the world being a perfectly struck golf drive - he could hear if a ball was struck sweet on the money spot. I bet beckham striking a ball sounds like a McCartney melody on a summers day.

he's was an immense player.

gazza however might be our most overrated player. a supreme talent but one that never reached his portential. when he cried at the world cup he was 23 - no mere kid. dietmar hamann said that if one his country men downed tools and wept because of his own personal loss when he should be fighting for his team he'd be a pariah in germany. look at keanes performance in turin 99. he gets booked and so is suspended for the final but puts in one the greatest midfield performances to help drag his team to a final he can never play in. that's a real world class player right there.

for me gazza was a flawed player. happy to flat track bully the scottish league in his prime. his goal against scotland was iconic and his performance against holland in the same tournament was poetry. but remember that last gasp chance in the semi that he just missed out on reaching? imagine if he had half the professionalism of beckham, a fraction more of his diligence in training. might he have found that extra half inch of reach?

we'll never know. and that sums gazza up: "we'll never know"

with beckham we do know. he put his heart and soul into all he did on a pitch and he reaped the rewards. bossing games from the right side of midfield for the greatest clubs in the world.

i dont think beckham is anywhere near the bracket of zidane, maradona, ronaldo etc

but he sits way above the likes of gerrard, rooney and near all of his english contemporaries.



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mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 19:18
another overlooked player is david platt.


he's never mentioned in any debates about the greatest modern day english midfielders. this guy left england and played in serie a back when that was the go to league in the world. that league in the early nineties was a rigorours examination of technique and tactical exactitude. no passenger allowed. and only three foriegn player allowed also.

he played for bari, sampdoria and juve. he scored 31 goals for england at a higher goals per game rate than gerrard or lampard. for most of 94-99 he held the roecord for most cumulative transfer fees and retired second on that list.

a proper footballing brain.

buuuuutt. he spent his prime years playing away from the premier league so is simply never spoken about.

 
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Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 20:49
Like him or not Tyson Fury giving his 8 million fight fee to good causes .well done to him

 
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mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
03 December, 2018 21:02
he is legit.

here's a 23 minute segment of his joe rogan apperance, he's a real man and someone i greatly admire

[www.youtube.com]


the whole podcast is fantastic, but that 20 mins is someone opening the windows to their soul and is incredibly inspiring.

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
04 December, 2018 00:23
Platt was a Man U player who got binned and started out in earnest at Crewe.

Oh how Ferguson may have wept and hopefully he did, when he saw that guy playing for England in Italia 90 realising what could have been.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: O/T Tyson Fury
04 December, 2018 08:44
Here's my man Becks United goal reel, preposterous collection of howitzers.

[youtu.be]

I have no idea why we like to drag people down in this country. If he looked like Matt let tissier he'd rightly be heralded as the boss he is. As it is he's a dreamy f**ker so we drag him down calling him overrated. No chance. The boy was a killer.


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