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Fiftyyearsarover
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Wallace
10 October, 2018 15:16
I know ,I know not again ,but he scored for Fleetwood Saturday ,amidst wild celebration he hared down the field ,I swear the roadrunner would not have caught him ,must be the sea air or being fed on cod .must have been to Lourdes no other explanation

 
coltran
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Re: Wallace
10 October, 2018 16:37
Are we sure it's James Wallace as Fleetwood have two players on their books with the surname Wallace

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
10 October, 2018 18:46
The commentators mentioned first goal for 3/4 years it was him he looked fit ,perhaps JoeyBarton knocked him into shape

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Wallace
10 October, 2018 19:58
Oh don't worry too much fifty, he's out until Christmas allegedly. Pulled something at the end of the game and subbed to stop it being a bad injury.

 
roversoffspring
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Re: Wallace
11 October, 2018 09:18
he'll be out injured for MOST of the season ahead.... then find a new club next year...guy is a criminal genius!

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
11 October, 2018 09:31
He would make a good manager ,gets the sack for being useless but always someone to give them a job getting the sack at £2 million compo a go .pure genius

 
MoanerLesser
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Re: Wallace
11 October, 2018 15:56
Wallace and Grimace

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Wallace
11 October, 2018 17:24
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Wallace and Grimace

Wallet and grimace more like!

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
13 October, 2018 09:24
8530kg Lol spot on .make anyone grimace 😠

 
ADD
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Re: Wallace
13 October, 2018 16:31
Went off injured today after 43 minutes after coming off midweek supposedly to avoid being out for several weeks. Wonder how long he will be out for?

 
bheadlad
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Re: Wallace
13 October, 2018 17:03
Maybe Fleetwood fans have started a what minute will Wallace last till🙄

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Wallace
13 October, 2018 17:59
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Went off injured today after 43 minutes after coming off midweek supposedly to avoid being out for several weeks. Wonder how long he will be out for?

All season, then we will resign him for League 1 with everyone praising his signing as when fit the best in England ha ha

 
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Re: Wallace
14 October, 2018 10:54
I notice when I play Wallace in FIFA 15 in my Tranmere team the pixels that represents him always pulls up with pulled thigh strain game stops and I have to sub him,think I'll put him on the transfer list.😀

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
16 October, 2018 16:06
You can bet your FIFA 15 someone will sign him 🙊

 
martyd12
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Re: Wallace
16 October, 2018 18:15
Does anyone know the extent of his latest injury and how long he is likely to be out for?

 
DevonExile
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Re: Wallace
16 October, 2018 18:47
He is a permanently broken body.I feel sorry for him but hopefully we will never again be mug enough to offer him a contract in the future

 
Jimsteel
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Re: Wallace
16 October, 2018 21:23
We knew this would happen he's just a parasite and has made a career leeching money off clubs. No sympathy from me. Just glad we cut our losses and passed the problem onto Joey Barton haha. Good luck Fleetwood wasting your money bunch of losers the lot of them.

 
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Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 10:30
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He is a permanently broken body.I feel sorry for him but hopefully we will never again be mug enough to offer him a contract in the future
WOW!!

 
HardlyYardley
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Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 16:41
Some of the comments on this thread show the worst of human nature. Wallace is a talented footballer. He suffered two bad injuries at work, both times playing for Tranmere. We have absolutely no idea what his wages are/were and whether or not they were based on appearances. We have absolutely no idea about the insurance situation(s) and thereore absolutely no idea about how medical costs were paid for. There is no proof whatsoever that he has feigned injury or not tried to play ; indeed, there is plenty of evidence that he has worked very hard to get fit after each setback. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about how good a player he is or was, but some of the comments here are simply disgraceful.

 
Borough Roaderd
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Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 17:14
It's frustration on many fans part that leads to these comments.Had he been fit he would have added a lot to Tranmere 's play.But it was not to be unfortunately.He had the chance to earn anew contract but chose Fleetwood.He is typical of the vast majority of players and decided to go elsewhere.The days of the one club man are virtually gone.Fans remain loyal to the club but they head off to greener pastures if the pay and conditions are better.

 
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Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 17:42
That is certainly true yes and given his terrible fitness record to be able to move up a division to L1 is a no brainer for him.
What aggrieves me/ many on here is not that he has done what he has done (albeit his comments when he first left were insulting) but that we gambled massively o nsigning him again and gave him a second chance and yes we may have insurance etc. but I am sure it still cost us a fair amount plus.

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 22:37
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Jimsteel
We knew this would happen he's just a parasite and has made a career leeching money off clubs. No sympathy from me. Just glad we cut our losses and passed the problem onto Joey Barton haha. Good luck Fleetwood wasting your money bunch of losers the lot of them.

Another so-called psychic eh?

Firstly nobody knew it would happen, they just suspected there is a big difference between facts and assumptions / gut instinct and that is a universal rock solid truth, but some people will enjoy being right with hindsight, when they can skew and bend the "after the matter" facts to fit their initial assumptions / gut instinct and I am not aiming that remark directly at you Jim.

As for calling him a leech and a parasite, that is grossly unfair. Nobody on here knows what he was being paid, what insurance terms he was on or anything. This feels like Ryan Lowe all over again, when he was found out not to be offered a contract extension he wanted, but oh how many were quick to brand him a mercenary who screwed over all his previous employers, without using enough logic or objectivity to back up their claims.

Now for all those thinking along the lines of Wallace is a parasite etc, ask yourself this; if you were offered the chance to come back to Tranmere on a reasonable wage, to try and continue a sporting career you absolutely adored being a part of, from when you were a nipper, would you say something like I don't think that's right because I am certain I will only offer you glimpses of supreme talent, coupled with many more minutes of injury time and I wouldn't justify the terms of my contract, so thank you so much for your kind offer, but I cannot saddle your club with what would almost certainly be ongoing problems, as I would feel dreadfully guilty every week when I got paid.

Come off it, you'd be saying something like thank you so much; I'm so glad to have been offered the chance to come back and try to prove myself again, especially given some comments I now regret saying when I left; this is more than I could have expected from your club, but thanks again, I will try my best not to let you down.

Tranmere were entitled to offer Wallace whatever terms they liked, details of which I doubt a single person criticisng him since he came back and subsequently left, knows anything about and he was within his rights to take the deal, so get over it.

I can just imagine this scenario as well. Wallace is hobbling around a supermarket in 50 years from now in his mid 70's, with a walking stick, struggling to carry some shopping to the tills; when asked if he is okay he explains he is having a bit of trouble after his recent hip operation.

Suddenly another shopper shouts I thought I recognised you Wallace and I still haven't forgiven you for what happened when you came back to Tranmere; you were a leech and a parasite and I've no sympathy for your hip problems and as far as I'm concerned you probably brought it on yourself, by not having enough self respect to give up playing when you were 21 and get a day job.

Seriously some comments on here at times about current and ex players, are frankly beyond any reasonable belief (Sm55).

Still at least one positive seems to be that these days nobody seems to be coming on here, defending such poor comments they or others make by saying it's worse on other Tranmere sites and using a grinning green smiley for effect.

If this was the real world would a black guy get racially abused by a drunk in Liverpool City Centre and then get told by his abuser be grateful you're not in Alabama?

Makes you wonder how many people on here calling Wallace a leech and parasite would do it to his face, or just come on here and act like one of those people who sits in a pub after 3 pints and claims they could stick their head in a box of snakes on a TV program, only to flinch when a money spider scuttles about near their pint.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
kennyspint
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Re: Wallace
17 October, 2018 23:26
Well said Matt. James has made a contribution and also been a pleasure to watch not only in his first spell but in our run to Wembley the first time. He didn't choose to be injured.His talent was well worth a gamble. Hope he manages to continue a career in football.

 
paulbyron
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Re: Wallace
18 October, 2018 11:23
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Well said Matt. James has made a contribution and also been a pleasure to watch not only in his first spell but in our run to Wembley the first time. He didn't choose to be injured.His talent was well worth a gamble. Hope he manages to continue a career in football.
+1

 
Loyden1
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Re: Wallace
18 October, 2018 16:07
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Well said Matt. James has made a contribution and also been a pleasure to watch not only in his first spell but in our run to Wembley the first time. He didn't choose to be injured.His talent was well worth a gamble. Hope he manages to continue a career in football.
+1
+2 how can u call the poor lad a leech and a parasite he doesn't get injured on purpose

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Wallace
18 October, 2018 16:25
Just seen him coming out of Spire on penny lane, didn't look too happy.

 
aktrfc
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Re: Wallace
19 October, 2018 08:53
Sorry Matt, but there will be a few on here who know exactly what players are paid. I know for a fact that a couple of our players are on here, and also know for a fact that the chairman and other teams chairman read this regularly. Granted, I wouldn’t expect them to post any of the confidential stuff on here, but the are here hiding in the shadows.

 
Yardleys Cat
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Re: Wallace
19 October, 2018 10:40
Matts post is spot on and one of the most sensible and balanced posts for a while. Forget about those tipping the wink and claiming to have inside knowledge of salaries and contracts, the sentiment of Matts post is dead right.

As for comments such as leech and parasite, well, that says more about those who posted such comments than anyone else.

Wallace has gone and I for one wish him all the very best for the future. To suggest he deliberately misled the club, or manipulated his injury or financial situation is not supported by any evidence whatsoever.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
19 October, 2018 18:18
It’s not fair to suggest he was a parasite.mislead the club etc. But it is fair to say he should never got the last chance he had it was obvious he was never going to get any better after 5years of specialists etc .without being to horrible to the guy he has been finished for years sad but true, must not darken our doorstep again .a fit Wallace would have been brilliant for us but it was never going to happen.

 
Yardleys Cat
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Re: Wallace
19 October, 2018 19:06
It’s reasonable to assume that prior to being offered a contract he was subjected to a rigorous medical and the contract would have been approved by management and owners. So, if it was ‘obvious he was never going to get better’, how did he manage to trick the medical staff, management and owners? How could they have been so naive to have missed this if it was so obvious?

 
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Re: Wallace
19 October, 2018 21:25
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aktrfc
Sorry Matt, but there will be a few on here who know exactly what players are paid.

Well if you're so sure please feel free to name one or two posters who would know these things and they can freely disclose the finer points of Wallace's old salary and bonuses to prove whether he was supposedly overpaid or given a deal in line with his talents and fitness smiling smiley.

As for the comment about Wallace tricking the doctors over fitness and the manager, I agree how could he have done.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 09:56
Equally,how come if the Dr ,specialist etc concur he is fit and worth a contract why has he played maximum 3 games in 5 years .now at Fleetwood played maybe one game and is out again .lt is a complete mystery .either the medical people are stupid (highly unlikely ) or a yet undiagnosed problem (highly unlikely again )he has been treated at St George’s England headquarters as well its a complete mystery

 
Loyden1
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 10:32
Heh 50 think he played about 50 games for us and so far 9 for fleetwood.think real witch hunt on some of this thread

 
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 12:34
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aktrfc
Sorry Matt, but there will be a few on here who know exactly what players are paid.

Well if you're so sure please feel free to name one or two posters who would know these things and they can freely disclose the finer points of Wallace's old salary and bonuses to prove whether he was supposedly overpaid or given a deal in line with his talents and fitness smiling smiley.

As for the comment about Wallace tricking the doctors over fitness and the manager, I agree how could he have done.

Sorry to be pedantic Matt, but quite simple really. It can be extremely difficult, for even the most experienced consultant, to make a diagnosis with any degree of certainty for those with limited or no verbal communication. There is a heavily weighted reliance on those with the ability to verbalise to provide accurate information to assist with an educated diagnosis being provided. Mis-diagnosis or a lack of a diagnosis is commonplace. I'm not for one minute suggesting Wallace mis-led anyone, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility or reason that his eagerness to play overshadowed any forthrightness. Dismissing it outright would also require some psychic qualities. As someone who risk assesses staff for their capacity to perform their role during any rehabilitation, even with health professional/OHU input, it is the individual that leads in dictating their capabilities and we ignore it at our peril. We can only make the assumption, as I do, that Wallace acted with integrity and honesty. However, we're only human and fallible and everyone at some point allows their heart to rule their head. To turn it on it's head and hypothetically speaking, for Wallace to want to play, even with the knowledge that he is injured, shows committment to the cause; foolhardy maybe. Nothing in life is black and white, just so many shades of grey.

 
aktrfc
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 17:49
Hi Matt, you and I know I’m not going to name names, yes I don’t know if they know how much Wallace was on, but more the fact that they are at the club and give me a few inside tips is appreciated. More so is the chairman who are reading this. On that point well done Mark for your first win this season. Good night and god bless.

 
Brenk
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 19:54
Guys, Isn’t it time to put this thread to bed? Wallace, whatever you think of him, is history. Time to look forward.

 
paulbyron
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Re: Wallace
20 October, 2018 21:33
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Guys, Isn’t it time to put this thread to bed? Wallace, whatever you think of him, is history. Time to look forward.
+1

 
Loyden1
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Re: Wallace
21 October, 2018 01:37
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Guys, Isn’t it time to put this thread to bed? Wallace, whatever you think of him, is history. Time to look forward.
+1
hallelujah

 
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Re: Wallace
21 October, 2018 08:18
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Brenk
Guys, Isn’t it time to put this thread to bed? Wallace, whatever you think of him, is history. Time to look forward.

History indeed. It takes a Braveheart to challenge on here.....oops, different Wallace!


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