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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Seeing red
01 August, 2018 08:48
Managers in the footy league are to be shown yellow n red cards. Starting this season, managers will be shown cards for any misconduct on the touchline/technical area.

 
coltran
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Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 09:01
Not before time either.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 09:22
So who will be the first manager this season to be shown a touchline red card? i'll go with Joey ' scumbag ' Barton.

 
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TranmereFan (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 09:43
Any idea why the premier league was excluded?

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 09:51
Because they don’t want to upset the big boys ,peasants only on this one

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 10:09
i think fifty has hit the nail on the head, its because they have to be 'Oh so exclusive.'.. can a manager see a straight red? if he kicks 2 water bottles instead of 1 then maybe lol.

 
Mattc777
CaptainFriendly (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 12:15
Hasn't the ref always been able to eject a manager from the game? I guess it looks more dramatic if a card is involved.

Maybe we can give cards to three stewards to use to control unruly supporters in the stand. And the police outside too

 
DevonExile
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Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 15:57
Given the dire standard of refereeing it is a pity that the league has not got the courage to set up a secret shoppers type group that undertakes an assessment of referees. I have no time for managers that wave imaginary cards from the touch line but equally the exasperation that comes from a dire performance by officials requires as much consideration of the cause as of the effect

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 16:40
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DevonExile
Given the dire standard of refereeing it is a pity that the league has not got the courage to set up a secret shoppers type group that undertakes an assessment of referees. I have no time for managers that wave imaginary cards from the touch line but equally the exasperation that comes from a dire performance by officials requires as much consideration of the cause as of the effect

+1

 
Higgosboots
Higgosboots (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 19:55
They will be responsible for the coaching staff to, Thanks Micky fuc£ed then he’ll wbe putting a little white R on the back of a seat in the main stand with Nico and Jackson on the bench!

 
MoanerLesser
853OKG (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 20:01
Maybe we could change the theme tune to that of a Split Enz track...

 
Higgosboots
Higgosboots (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 22:07
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DevonExile
Given the dire standard of refereeing it is a pity that the league has not got the courage to set up a secret shoppers type group that undertakes an assessment of referees. I have no time for managers that wave imaginary cards from the touch line but equally the exasperation that comes from a dire performance by officials requires as much consideration of the cause as of the effect

You know if we asses all these refs and then strike them off for being no good who will rf the games?

 
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TranmereFan (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 22:10
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Fiftyyearsarover
Because they don’t want to upset the big boys ,peasants only on this one

Are we the Guinea pigs perhaps?

 
Mattc777
CaptainFriendly (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
01 August, 2018 22:39
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Higgosboots
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DevonExile
Given the dire standard of refereeing it is a pity that the league has not got the courage to set up a secret shoppers type group that undertakes an assessment of referees. I have no time for managers that wave imaginary cards from the touch line but equally the exasperation that comes from a dire performance by officials requires as much consideration of the cause as of the effect

You know if we asses all these refs and then strike them off for being no good who will rf the games?

Naturally the assessment would never be done by the fans

 
DevonExile
DevonExile (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
02 August, 2018 13:15
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CaptainFriendly
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Higgosboots
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DevonExile
Given the dire standard of refereeing it is a pity that the league has not got the courage to set up a secret shoppers type group that undertakes an assessment of referees. I have no time for managers that wave imaginary cards from the touch line but equally the exasperation that comes from a dire performance by officials requires as much consideration of the cause as of the effect

You know if we asses all these refs and then strike them off for being no good who will rf the games?

Naturally the assessment would never be done by the fans
It is not about striking them off any list but about the FA doing more about the training of refs rather than thinking bad enough is good enough

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
05 August, 2018 02:18
I wonder if any managers in the EFL received yellow or red cards yesterday..? On a separate note, I see that yesterday Shrewsbury were the first club in the EFL to have safe standing at their ground.

 
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TranmereFan (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
05 August, 2018 23:28
Prob makes sense to have the lower section of the Kop as standing area

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:02
So the 'accolade' of being the first manager in an EFL match to be shown a red card actually falls on 2 managers, Derek Adams and Chris Powell. Both sent off in a touchline altercation in the 39th min in last Saturdays Plymouth v Southend game, they both now face bans.. I was hoping that 'honour' would have been awarded to Joey Barton.

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:12
Don't get the hate for Barton

He's far more erudite, intellectual and talented than any of the sheep that like to hate on him. And he has better taste in music than them to boot


Boss player. Great hair too.

 
rossb07
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Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:17
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mrGr33n13
Don't get the hate for Barton
He's far more erudite, intellectual and talented than any of the sheep that like to hate on him. And he has better taste in music than them to boot


Boss player. Great hair too.

Not sure if you’ve heard his take on French?

 
paulbyron
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Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:19
noticed jacko not on the bench sat. anything to do with Wembley?

 
rossb07
rossb07 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:25
I’d imagine it’s due to that.

Seen Nixon is the one barking orders out so hopefully we can get Jacko back.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:28
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mrGr33n13
Don't get the hate for Barton
He's far more erudite, intellectual and talented than any of the sheep that like to hate on him. And he has better taste in music than them to boot


Boss player. Great hair too.

He is a class A1 a*shole, and as for his hairstyle and spectacles that he now wears, trying to pass himself off and kid us all that he is some kind of studious, learned university intellect, what a joke! we all know what you are really like Barton.

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:36
It's such a low hanging fruit, tabloid following jibe. I doubt the people who call him thick have ever had an original thought or read a difficult book.

Joey's a great lad in my book

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 16:55
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mrGr33n13
Don't get the hate for Barton
He's far more erudite, intellectual and talented than any of the sheep that like to hate on him. And he has better taste in music than them to boot


Boss player. Great hair too.

The Smiths and Morrissey , a good taste in music????? do me a favour.. all that post punk cr*p of the Smiths, Ian Curtis and Joy Division and Tony W*nky Wilson at Factory records was an endless bore to me and the music went absolutely nowhere..All that dreadful music played on the back of punk as being a counter culture, yet the real forerunners to punk were those radical out n out rockers such as the MC5 and the Stooges. Curtis, The Smiths and the likes shared a Thatcher depression and industrial strife but the majority of them were arty f*rty students from university with degrees in Art and Latin. They were not unemployed mechanics, tyre fitters and welders from the production lines. I have always had an opinion that all of that UK scene was the start of smackhead Britain, dire flats full of p*ss and suicide and listening to some sad Lou Reed piece.. The blues is the music that is the the most emotive and true, and that late 70s/early 80s UK post punk scene was a complete load of t*ss n drivel.



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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 17:08
Not sure about this penchant you have for those with a thuggish persona; fans terrorising others, Maradonna, Barton. Marlon King's record must stir your loins!

Alternatively, you are king of the WUMs!

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 17:32
I like ghandi.

Although he was a mahasooove racialist innit

 
Fiftyyearsarover
Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 19:55
One who had A Level English ,History ,Geography.i can’t possible think what a mahasooove Racist innit is can one of you younger generation chaps enlighten me .it might make a good insult one day 🙄

 
rossb07
rossb07 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 20:20
It’s not what ‘the younger generation’ use.

MrGreen believe it or not is over 50 years old...

 
Fiftyyearsarover
Fiftyyearsarover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 21:56
Well that’s me told Innitt

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 22:10
Lol.

Don't know where you lot get these ideas.

Worse than a sewing circle.

Am goosed [×]

Am any where near 50 [×]

Penchant for roguish men [✓]

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
14 August, 2018 22:29
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mrGr33n13
Lol.
Don't know where you lot get these ideas.

Worse than a sewing circle.

Am goosed [×]

Am any where near 50 [×]

Penchant for roguish men [✓]

Do I win a prize then? (Sm145)

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
15 August, 2018 20:31
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hong kong rover
The Smiths and Morrissey , a good taste in music????? do me a favour.. all that post punk cr*p of the Smiths, Ian Curtis and Joy Division and Tony W*nky Wilson at Factory records was an endless bore to me and the music went absolutely nowhere..All that dreadful music played on the back of punk as being a counter culture, yet the real forerunners to punk were those radical out n out rockers such as the MC5 and the Stooges. Curtis, The Smiths and the likes shared a Thatcher depression and industrial strife but the majority of them were arty f*rty students from university with degrees in Art and Latin. They were not unemployed mechanics, tyre fitters and welders from the production lines. I have always had an opinion that all of that UK scene was the start of smackhead Britain, dire flats full of p*ss and suicide and listening to some sad Lou Reed piece.. The blues is the music that is the the most emotive and true, and that late 70s/early 80s UK post punk scene was a complete load of t*ss n drivel.

Personally I have nothing against post-punk acts. Blues is a very heartfelt, characterful music and certainly not the sad music some people have portrayed it as, but there is still an honesty and an integrity to post-punk stuff, that doesn't necessarily mean there should be an association with certain social activities.

Punk to some extent was accused of inspiring anti-social youth behaviour and attracting national front behaviour / encouraging racist attitudes, despite pretty much everyone involved in it having no desire to encourage racism and violence.

The same could be said of many music stars / acts in the late 1960's. How many of them said hey guys do substances because you'll never be the same again until you've blown your mind?

There may have been a rise in certain types of negative social trends, but if it seems like you're trying to create a tie up between those trends and post-punk music, I'd have to politely disagree, but I will be willing to admit to being wrong if I have misjudged your sentiment(s).



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 16:09
@ HKR and Matt34 - I wouldn't dream of foisting my musical opinions on anyone, but has anyone noticed how little proper new music there is out there these days? Youngsters 'discover' that some music written between 60's and 80's is actually quite good and they rehash the same sounds as their own.
Pish!
Still, maybe our own parents said the same about us.
Anyway, nothing can touch 70's and 80's funk for stirring the soul. Agree about the Smiths and all the other miserable mancs - Punk is a London-centric music and all the more raw and energetic for it.
Saw Lou Reed in Liverpool a few years back. I know we shouldn't diss the departed but it was the worst show I've ever been to - played the whole thing with his back to the audience and mocked the crowd when they wanted him to play some of his more popular numbers, so I'm with hongkong on that one...
Cheers!

 
mrGr33n13
mrGr33n13 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 16:40
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Youngsters 'discover' that some music written between 60's and 80's is actually quite good

and everyone of the bands in that era were inspired and stole from those that went before them.

the 60s was unique in that lennon and mccartney [along with martin] and then dylan were light years ahead of anyone a few centuries either side of them, but almost all other popular music of that era was derivative of what went before.

the charts is a shambles now, and i dont follow music with anything like the same passion of 15 years ago, but away from dull chart fodder im willing to bet that there is stirring soulful music being made and enjoyed. its not being made for old or mainstream ears though.

anyways its all cyclical. dull rock and roll inspired people to push against the mainstream, 70s bell bottomed plod rockers were outed by youth, the 80's had 3-4 musical revolutions as well as cultural one. 90s brought guitars back from drum beats, 2000's saw street urchins from south london produce a strange unique concept that would bubble through the country's underground scene to go onto dominate the world charts with dubstep [i remember the first dubstep night in liverpool springing up, about 5 people outside of london knew what was what at that time - within 18 months every girl band had a dubstep break in the middle eight].

when things get stale, the kids shake it up.

it'll all be going on at parties where you're not invited though.



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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 17:01
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mrGr33n13
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Youngsters 'discover' that some music written between 60's and 80's is actually quite good

and everyone of the bands in that era were inspired and stole from those that went before them.

the 60s was unique in that lennon and mccartney [along with martin] and then dylan were light years ahead of anyone a few centuries either side of them, but almost all other popular music of that era was derivative of what went before.

the charts is a shambles now, and i dont follow music with anything like the same passion of 15 years ago, but away from dull chart fodder im willing to bet that there is stirring soulful music being made and enjoyed. its not being made for old or mainstream ears though.

anyways its all cyclical. dull rock and roll inspired people to push against the mainstream, 70s bell bottomed plod rockers were outed by youth, the 80's had 3-4 musical revolutions as well as cultural one. 90s brought guitars back from drum beats, 2000's saw street urchins from south london produce a strange unique concept that would bubble through the country's underground scene to go onto dominate the world charts with dubstep [i remember the first dubstep night in liverpool springing up, about 5 people outside of london knew what was what at that time - within 18 months every girl band had a dubstep break in the middle eight].

when things get stale, the kids shake it up.

it'll all be going on at parties where you're not invited though.

On the subject of Bob Dylan, about 2 weeks ago he was in HK for one night only..He performed at the HK Convention and Exhibition Centre and a pal of mine went along to see him, but at a 100 quid for a ticket there was no way I was going.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 17:40
Most of my fave musicians are 6 feet under now. The last gig I went to was about 6 years ago now, saw the legendary albino Texas blues guitarist, Johnny Winter here in HK and they practically had to wheel him out on to the stage, lol. he died the year after.



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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 20:38
Still many old school acts and artists play on, including Deep Purple, Rick Wakeman, Climax Blues Band, Golden Earring, Focus, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Wishbone Ash, Ritchie Blackmore, Buddy Guy, the Rolling Stones, Savoy Brown, Nazareth, The Pretty Things etc.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
16 August, 2018 23:22
"Old school"; they is just the spawn of the legends.

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
17 August, 2018 20:42
Compared to people like Kasabian, Queens Of The Stone Age and The Feeling those quoted names are old school.

However the man in your avatar Mr Robert Johnson I think unless it's Big Bill Broonzey, are the originators of blues assuming you don't count the slave songs of their parents and grandparents as blues, just an unforeseen stepping stone to what became blues.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
17 August, 2018 21:05
Top of the class Matt with Mr RJ.
Yours might be six foot under HKR, mine are long gone, 12 foot under, but still gotta lot of rhythm in their rockin' bones!
How did we get here from your OP? This is now well OT! smiling smiley

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
18 August, 2018 00:06
Thats right, phils avatar pic is Robert Johnson. right back to the early roots of the blues and legend has it that ' he went to the crossroads to sell his soul.' Q. What is the blues? A. its a good man feeling down.

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
18 August, 2018 00:18
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Phil65
Top of the class Matt with Mr RJ.
Yours might be six foot under HKR, mine are long gone, 12 foot under, but still gotta lot of rhythm in their rockin' bones!
How did we get here from your OP? This is now well OT! smiling smiley

lol, it often happens on the forum phil, a thread starts off on one topic and then it gets sidetracked on to other subjects lol. its a bit similar when going on to you tube, you start off with the sole intention of viewing the weekends goals n footy highlights and then end up watching an episode from an old 70s comedy series and moving on to some serious documentary and finally ending up watching/listening to some great music, and if the Mrs is out then a little bit of porn thrown into the mix aswell lol.

 
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Re: Seeing red
18 August, 2018 16:10
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mrGr33n13
It's such a low hanging fruit, tabloid following jibe. I doubt the people who call him thick have ever had an original thought or read a difficult book.
Joey's a great lad in my book

(Sm152)Top bloke joey barton (Sm152) (Sm22)
What a role model professional he is LOL

[www.mirror.co.uk]

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Seeing red
18 August, 2018 21:14
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Joey's a great lad in my book

There's many people on here who would neither buy nor read that book.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.


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