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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 13:26
We all know they are spoilt Premiership brats but c'mon England! Lost count how mamy times theyve let the nation down before and i have lost a lot of faith in them in the past and given up at times, but last year our national youth/unders sides were superb and gave us some hope, so here is hoping the full senior team can step up and emulate their juniors. There are sides that are still in this World Cup that are probably better than us, but a win tonight then maybe, just maybe we can really start believing.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 13:43
Can fully understand that some may think I am in dreamland and away with the fairies or under the influence, and why bother with constant failure and humiliation lol. but u have to keep believing..



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Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 15:01
To many pies HKR .have you mad cow disease.it can turn you mad 👍

 
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Re: C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 16:32
Columbia ridiculously priced tonight . I've filled up on them so will be happy with either outcome.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 16:59
As I was explaining to someone earlier. This feel like Leicester all over again. The opportunity is there

 
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Re: C'mon England!
03 July, 2018 17:20
Supporting England is like supporting Rovers, we build up the hope and expectation only to have our bubble burst. But occasionally just occasionally we shine, lets hope this season is a new beginning for us and England.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 10:00
It is looking positive all of a sweden

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 11:04
The country infamous for gangs, guns, cocaine and corrupt politicians managed to beat Colombia last night.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 11:18
If the England v Sweden quarter final goes to a penalty shoot out will they reintroduce the ABBA system?

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 11:50
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If the England v Sweden quarter final goes to a penalty shoot out will they reintroduce the ABBA system?

LOL. Only if Neymar does his dancing queen routine when he falls over first.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 11:57


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If the England v Sweden quarter final goes to a penalty shoot out will they reintroduce the ABBA system?

Either system, The Winner Takes It All



Every ball's a white ball

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 13:05
Thought the Colombians were an absolute disgrace last night. if thats the way they are trying to win a game and progress in the tournament then thank god for the sake of the game they are going home..it was a horrible scrappy game and England were poor but some credit must go to the young England lads for maintaining their discipline amongst all that shameful Colombian nonsense.



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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 13:48
guess there will now only be non-England Tranmere supporters going to the Dunfermline game!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 13:52
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Thought the Colombians were an absolute disgrace last night. if thats the way they are trying to win a game and progress in the tournament then thank god for the sake of the game they are going home..it was a horrible scrappy game and England were poor but some credit must go to the young England lads for maintaining their discipline amongst all that shameful Colombian nonsense.

I thought England played quite well but it was difficult to do anything when the opponents are more intent on wrestling, kicking and pulling, and arguing with the ref. A game needs two teams to have a go at playing football.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 14:07
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Thought the Colombians were an absolute disgrace last night. if thats the way they are trying to win a game and progress in the tournament then thank god for the sake of the game they are going home..it was a horrible scrappy game and England were poor but some credit must go to the young England lads for maintaining their discipline amongst all that shameful Colombian nonsense.

I thought England played quite well but it was difficult to do anything when the opponents are more intent on wrestling, kicking and pulling, and arguing with the ref. A game needs two teams to have a go at playing football.

+1

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 15:04
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guess there will now only be non-England Tranmere supporters going to the Dunfermline game!

Nah, club before country i'm afraid.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 17:10
If I had the choice of an England World Cup win or Promotion for Rovers the latter would win by miles.The World Cup is a nice little interlude before the main event, I will an England victory but if beaten I know that within minutes I wouldn't really care. It is for me the distinction between watching a team and really supporting a team

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 21:13
Last time England won the World Cup, Tranmere were promoted from Div 4 the following season.

it is written in the stars.

C'mon England!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 21:36
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Last time England won the World Cup, Tranmere were promoted from Div 4 the following season.
it is written in the stars.

C'mon England!

It's like football is just one big roundabout. If so, i'm going to back out as the next 40 years as a Rovers fan is just not worth it...

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 21:42
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Columbia ridiculously priced tonight . I've filled up on them so will be happy with either outcome.

happy with either outcome???? if u are an Englishman then I would put u up very high on my list of those despicable undesirables of Guy Fawkes, Oliver Cromwell, the Cambridge five of Kim Philby and Anthony Blunt and in more recent times Tony Blair.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 21:56
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Last time England won the World Cup, Tranmere were promoted from Div 4 the following season.
it is written in the stars.

C'mon England!

+1 yiggsy

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 22:08
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Columbia ridiculously priced tonight . I've filled up on them so will be happy with either outcome.

happy with either outcome???? if u are an Englishman then I would put u up very high on my list of those despicable undesirables of Guy Fawkes, Oliver Cromwell, the Cambridge five of Kim Philby and Anthony Blunt and in more recent times Tony Blair.

Oh I'm the least patriotic person you're ever likely to meet.

Leaves me cold all that nonsense.

Happy for the team to do well, but not at all bothered if they don't.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 22:11
[quote Yiggsy]Last time England won the World Cup, Tranmere were promoted from Div 4 the following season.

it is written in the stars.

C'mon England![/quot

hi yiggsy, its interesting u mention Rovers getting promoted in the 1966/1967 season coz ive just been checking thru my tranmere rovers the complete history book and the season before we finished 5th in the table and lost out to promotion to colchester utd who finished in the 4th and final promotion spot, yet us and colchester finished exactly on the same points of 56 pts and our goal diff was +27 and colchesters was only +23, so why did they get promoted and we didnt? guessing goal diff wasnt a factor back in those days.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 22:33
More than likely goals scored came before goals diff back then?

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 22:37
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More than likely goals scored came before goals diff back then?

we scored 93 goals and Colchester only 70

 
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Re: C'mon England!
04 July, 2018 23:08
We used goal average in those days. Goals For divided by Goals Against.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
05 July, 2018 06:37
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We used goal average in those days. Goals For divided by Goals Against.

Ah, yes. Good ol' goal average in the days before we had calculators!

For the record:
Colchester F70, A47, GA 1.489
Tranmere F90, A66, GA 1.409

Considering we still had Pounds, Shillings and Pence in those days try working that one out in your head!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
05 July, 2018 16:39
john stones has commented on how the Colombians were the dirtiest side he has ever faced and he stated he would have liked to further his comments but wouldn't coz it would land him in hot water,, sums up south americans for me, they've been doing it for decades.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
05 July, 2018 18:42
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john stones has commented on how the Colombians were the dirtiest side he has ever faced and he stated he would have liked to further his comments but wouldn't coz it would land him in hot water,, sums up south americans for me, they've been doing it for decades.

Agree, they really are horrible. I also like to add that I am personally a loyalist and would love for nothing more than to see us win the World Cup.

While I love rovers, I’m sorry to say, a friendly up in Scotland or a game against a LFC b team, it’s England in the quarterfinals and the semifinals all day long.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
05 July, 2018 18:43
I know the lfc games moved, but still rather watch the other semi

 
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Re: C'mon England!
06 July, 2018 01:34
You don't see the European, African and Asian teams sink to the depths of the South Americans when it comes to blatant cheating, dirty foul play, spitting at the opposition and all sorts of low life tactics ( with the exception of some of those Italian sides in the past.) I am not saying the Europeans, Africans and Asians are angels but in my time of watching football they have never stooped that low.. Its been going on for decades with the Argies, Uruguayans, Colombians, Paraguayans and to a lesser extent the Brazilians..its in their blood, its in their system and its part of their whole make up and DNA..When it comes to the South Americans on a football pitch, they are a different animal, and when i say animal thats exactly what i mean.



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Re: C'mon England!
06 July, 2018 19:06
Sorry but 2-0 or 2-1 Sweden for me Belgium to win the World Cup

 
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Re: C'mon England!
06 July, 2018 21:24
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Sorry but 2-0 or 2-1 Sweden for me Belgium to win the World Cup

Why so negative Fifty? We are more than good enough to beat Sweden. And in less than 24 hrs, we will have done so. I must say that I have supported Tranmere since the late 60's through thick and thin and I would follow them throughout the land for all competitive games but, a choice between seeing a pre season friendly against a mediocre Scottish side and England in the QF of the World Cup, then on this occasion, it has to be Country before Club.



Every ball's a white ball

 
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Re: C'mon England!
06 July, 2018 21:57
A spherical object is returning to its place of origin...

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 07:32
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Sorry but 2-0 or 2-1 Sweden for me Belgium to win the World Cup

consistent with your Tranmere predictions!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 09:00
Well at least I am consistent .i just think our defence is a bit iffy and we have been lucky so far not conceding .just have a sneaking feeling Sweden will edge it if I am wrong ,brilliant ,after last night as I predicted before the World Cup started its Belgium for me to win it ,wonderful side , anyway negativity is a mental thing where a person sees doom and gloom in everything and everybody all the time ,I am a cheerful Charlie Chester who sees things as I believe them to be it’s called being realistic

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 09:07
The defence is very iffy. However Sweden's frontbline and midfield is hardly intimidating. They are a functional, well organised, hard working team. Nothing more. England, for all their faults, are a better team. That doesn't mean they will win though... just as Belgium probably being the best side left in the tournament on paper doesn't mean they will win it. Its been a tournament of surprises and there's no team that is particularly outstanding in it. Anyone could win it.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 11:06
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Well at least I am consistent .i just think our defence is a bit iffy and we have been lucky so far not conceding .just have a sneaking feeling Sweden will edge it if I am wrong ,brilliant ,after last night as I predicted before the World Cup started its Belgium for me to win it ,wonderful side , anyway negativity is a mental thing where a person sees doom and gloom in everything and everybody all the time ,I am a cheerful Charlie Chester who sees things as I believe them to be it’s called being realistic

Speculation before a game . Only realism if the prediction happens. Can I assume you have put a large bet on the scoreline? Realism apparently bet on Germany vs Brazil in the final, with a last four including Spain and Belgium.

Seedings based on form had Switzerland (6th best) to realistically beat Sweden.

upshot is that anything is possible and I prefer to back my own Country based on what i have seen so far.



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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 11:42
[www.youtube.com]

The Queen's Guards - It's Coming Home

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 11:43
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 11:46
We're much better at playing between the lines and have players who can operate at pace. And Kane is ice in front of goal. Sweden well and truly there for the taking of we play at pace and don't get all ponderous.

France will make marmalade out of our midfield in the final is my prediction.

Cmon england

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 13:31
Good luck today!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 14:47
Seriously hope it doesn't come back to bite Sterling in the rear. We're worthy of being ahead, but should have been game over. Don't sit back England!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 16:09
Great victory and well deserved. Good to see an England goalkeeper on top of his game. Keep telling my own three lions (my three sons), make the most of this, it's a rarity and potentially a once in a lifetime moment. Would love my sons to witness an England World Cup win and join those who were privileged enough to witness 1966. I'm not getting carried away as there's still a long way to go yet, but could this be the year of a Wembley win for Rovers and an England World Cup victory; you can but dream!

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 17:16
Well I got that one wrong ,my excuse is I checked my crystal ball after the game and noticed it was cracked with the heat (a bit like the owner )but well done England . I kept switching from England women’s cricket to the football and back again .both won so a good day

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 17:40
fantasy 1, reality 0 lol

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 17:53
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Great victory and well deserved. Good to see an England goalkeeper on top of his game. Keep telling my own three lions (my three sons), make the most of this, it's a rarity and potentially a once in a lifetime moment. Would love my sons to witness an England World Cup win and join those who were privileged enough to witness 1966. I'm not getting carried away as there's still a long way to go yet, but could this be the year of a Wembley win for Rovers and an England World Cup victory; you can but dream!

Phil ..I really hope so ..I was only 3 in 1966 ..and although I watched the match on TV I cannot remember any of it ..I’ve got a 3year old granddaughter so I believe it is written in the stars that history WILL repeat itself..it’s come home⚽️⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

 
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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 19:39
Just imagine if fat Sam hadnt been exposed.

442, Rooney up front with Andy carrol on the bench ready to shake things up, percentage play from he back aka asking Chris smalling to boot it down the channels. Sammy Lee as the numbers guy breaking down the opposition ie suggesting isolating the small full back by playing Danny welbeck on the wing.

And the satorial elegence of the waistcoat being supplanted by a over weight clodder in a shell suit.



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Re: C'mon England!
07 July, 2018 21:41
Had the wonderful experience of watching England win the World Cup ,swinging 60s Carnaby street ,Beatles etc a time never to be forgotten ,The Krays ,Gt train robbery .amazing times ,the best of my Life .a never to be repeated decade that’s for sure .spent a lot of time in Stepney in East London 62/70 working on meat transport sometimes working nights unloading in Smithfield meat market of a night ,in the pub drinking Guinness and scoffing plates of chips at break time ,what a fascinating place ,I sometimes loaded pork shoulders from there and delivered it to the Spam factory that was in Liverpool ,spam is now made in Denmark, sometimes when a meat boat came in with Lambs from New Zealand we worked Sunday ,the Laugh was as the dockers were very militant .so they had 2hours dinner one hour to go to church and the other for dinner but no one went to church so all hands in the pub for 2 hours it was chaos but what a Laugh .l am always happy to say the sixtys ,I was there

 
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Re: C'mon England!
08 July, 2018 08:37
haha, thanks for that 50. what a time to be coming of age.

if i could chose, i'd be born as one of those lucky enough to be 16-19 at either the 67 or the 88 summer of love and switched on enough to dive right in. two times when it must have seemed dylan's wheel truly was in spin.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
08 July, 2018 10:39
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Re: C'mon England!
08 July, 2018 11:09
Just think by next Sunday we could have two stars above the three lions. Fantastic.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
09 July, 2018 19:52
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The Krays ,Gt train robbery .amazing times

Not those two they weren't. nothing good about murderers and serious criminals.

Admittedly though that decade had some good things about it including some of the music.

Green Onions anybody (Sm7)



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 12:51
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Just imagine if fat Sam hadnt been exposed.
442, Rooney up front with Andy carrol on the bench ready to shake things up, percentage play from he back aka asking Chris smalling to boot it down the channels. Sammy Lee as the numbers guy breaking down the opposition ie suggesting isolating the small full back by playing Danny welbeck on the wing.

And the satorial elegence of the waistcoat being supplanted by a over weight clodder in a shell suit.
spot on really. You could talk about it all day but the style of play and belief in it along with the belief in themselves and each other is a breath of fresh air


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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 12:59
I can also see similarities in the stick Sterling is getting and the stick Norwood used to get.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 13:34
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I can also see similarities in the stick Sterling is getting and the stick Norwood used to get.

the sterling question is one that you can use to see if someone understands football and to what level.

sterling was our MOTM against sweden and for our system is the least replaceable player.

he accepts the ball under pressure, has more touches than anyone in the opposition box. he pulls defenders everywhere with his movement. can run at players, burn them to the ground with pace. off the ball he is like having a wasp in the car on a motorway: his tackling isnt great but the sheer annoyance breaks teams moves up before they can get going. he opens the pitch up and everyone else in the team benefits.

he has been a key player in our success at the tournament.

red top readers and people who think talksport is the height of banter won't agree, but that's a reflection on their level of thinking and not raz's performances.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 15:03
So anyone who disagrees with what you say (which is 80% of this forum) knows and understands less about football than yourself?

I’m all for debates and people having opinions but there’s a line when just because someone disagrees that they’re then seen as being inferior.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 15:11
It's my opinion that people who don't rate sterling don't understand football, yes

You don't have to agree or be assed about my opinion of you.

I didn't think I'd have to put imo after every statement.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 15:16
i mean i put up a pretty robust argument as to why he is the most irreplacable player in the system.

of course some people will say he runs like an effete man with little legs, or he misses too many chances. and that's fine. i just think that shows a lack of imagination and, yes, understanding.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 15:16
Personally, I could give a hoot but there are some who just may.

All i will say is that i've seen little in 16(9) posts to convince me of what you're saying is true but you can just call me John Snow...



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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 16:13
England haven't really been tested in this tournament as yet and especially our defence ( yet to face the frightening pace of Mbappe and some of those Belgians ), the Croats will be a big big test and their midfield looks stronger than ours but if we can keep Modric fairly quiet it will defo help. Really do think England lack an attacking midfielder and it was most noticeable in that Colombia game, when the Colombians were a real disgrace. Deli Alli has struggled a bit with injuries at this tournament and he didn't have a great season with Spurs either. but one thing we do have is belief and togetherness and credit to Southgate for that and another big big reason we have done well and progressed thru the tournament is that there are no big egos, eg. Beckham ( by an absolute country mile the most overrated and hyped up player this country has ever produced.. ) The recent and magnificent success of our national youth and unders sides is rubbing off on the senior team.
If we do make it to the final, then our players do know a lot about the likes of Pogba, Lukaku , De Bruyne etc etc with them playing in the premier league and not forgetting the French and Belgian defences have leaked some goals against the Argies n Japan, so that can also help us. Would be nice to see England score more goals that are not Kane penalties or from set pieces but still shouldn't complain coz weve reached the semis.. Anyway come on England, you can do it tmrw but it could go all the way to penalties, I am sure Southgate in no way is underestimating Croatia..It will be tough tmrw. we can worry about the French or Belgians later.. thoroughly enjoyed the tournament so far and fair play to the ruskies for putting on a great show with some tremendous games as well and its been great to see the big nations fall eg. the well hyped Brazilians , who were not that good anyway. been quite impressed with VAR, and I think the officiating has been of a decent standard in this world cup, and its interesting to note that there were no English refs at this world cup, lol, maybe that's why the standard has been more than ok. lol. not many negatives either apart from the disgraceful Colombians, Maradonas presence and the antics of some of those Swiss players of Albanian descent in the match vs Serbia, thought Shaqiri disgraced himself to be quite honest. he is playing for and representing the Swiss national team AND NOT Albania.. Anyway, COME ON ENGLAND ..



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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 17:34
Croatia ripe for picking if we keep their Spain based players from getting on the ball too much.

Should be a cracker tonight.

Kante and de bruyne are for different reasons two of the best midfielders I've seen. Kante edges it for me, blows my mind everytime I see him play.

Hoping for a France win, allez the lads

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 17:34
Croatia ripe for picking if we keep their Spain based players from getting on the ball too much.

Should be a cracker tonight.

Kante and de bruyne are for different reasons two of the best midfielders I've seen. Kante edges it for me, blows my mind everytime I see him play.

Hoping for a France win, allez the lads

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 18:34
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Croatia ripe for picking if we keep their Spain based players from getting on the ball too much.
Should be a cracker tonight.

Kante and de bruyne are for different reasons two of the best midfielders I've seen. Kante edges it for me, blows my mind everytime I see him play.

Hoping for a France win, allez the lads

+1 agree we have to stop the Croatian midfield from having too much time on the ball tmrw and hope they don't force us to sit too deep. agree about some of the great midfield players in this tournament too and its not just been some great outfield play at this world cup, ive been impressed with the high standard of goalkeeping too and not just the top keepers either, but generally all round.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 20:47
French just about deserved it I think, Belgians just not quite good enough tonight and Hazard and De Bruyne huffed n puffed but solid organization from the French especially at the back of midfield and in defence in that 2nd half, and Lukaku hardly got a look in..This Mbappe looks real real special for France.

 
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Re: C'mon England!
10 July, 2018 22:00
france look good to me

think they'll have a big edge over whoever gets into the final with them and we might not get a close final

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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10 July, 2018 23:05
Seeing as it was a Frenchman who, as president of Fifa (founded in Paris), created the World Cup, looks like it is coming home after all. Jules Rimet still gleaming..(Sm100)

 
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10 July, 2018 23:32
Hopefully England can make the final and beat the french.

Though with any luck no England fan will produce stupid banners saying something like, we saved you in 2 world wars, stuffed Napoleon and beat you in Agincourt and we'll humble you again for your own good.

It might only serve to potentially make them want to win twice as much, rather than chip their confidence away.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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11 July, 2018 06:34
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I can also see similarities in the stick Sterling is getting and the stick Norwood used to get.

the sterling question is one that you can use to see if someone understands football and to what level.

sterling was our MOTM against sweden and for our system is the least replaceable player.


he accepts the ball under pressure, has more touches than anyone in the opposition box. he pulls defenders everywhere with his movement. can run at players, burn them to the ground with pace. off the ball he is like having a wasp in the car on a motorway: his tackling isnt great but the sheer annoyance breaks teams moves up before they can get going. he opens the pitch up and everyone else in the team benefits.

he has been a key player in our success at the tournament.

red top readers and people who think talksport is the height of banter won't agree, but that's a reflection on their level of thinking and not raz's performances.
I agree he had a great game v Sweden, not sure he was our MOTM but was certainly impressive. This is not criticising anyone's opinion but i think some do forget Southgate and his staff watch these games back and analyze it with the preverbial tooth comb. Sterling like a lot of the team has executed his role in the team to almost perfection.
It's similar what i said when Norwood was coming under fire. Norwood plays were he's asked, he makes runs, he tracks back when needed, he creates space etc etc.

We've just seen France reach the final with Giroud as their lone striker. Giroud has not had one single shot on target in the whole tournament. But the manager has stated he's vital.



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mrGr33n13
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11 July, 2018 06:51
Yup.

Said halfway through last season that Norwood was probably my favourite tranmere player since the king era.

People focus on his finishing as he missed a few 1-1s ,when the intellignece in his movement and ability to play across the pitch and run teams down is already invaluable. If norwood - a 20+ goals a season player already - improved his finishing any he would be be in the top 2 leagues.

As you allude, to people simply look at goal stats and memorable misses when in today's game, esp at the top level, the system and making space, pressing high are much more important. even for positions that in a harry basset era 442 would be relied on for goals

 
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11 July, 2018 12:12
Cracking summer this.

Going to be remembered for generations

Weather, Wembley and a World Cup.

Some have said England have over performed or exceeded expectations. Not sure they have.

Pre-tournament quarters would have been seen as exceeding par. But if you had said : beat Panama snd Tunisia and then play Columbia ; Sweden and Croatia then quarters look like a minimum return. Semis look like par.

The style of play and togetherness has however exceeded all expectation. No banks of 5 narrowly striped across our penalty area, no percentage clearanced down the channels as default. Just a great team spirit and calmness on the ball. Complete mental game change.

We're well capable of blowing Croatia away tonight.

Country will be a mad house on Sunday if we get there.

Pity the winner of Wimbledon lol

Cmon england

 
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11 July, 2018 20:51
Can’t argue with that one, Croatians dominated them physically and Ultimatley is it 2 goals from open play just don’t have the quality and that showed even against Columbia right team deservedly won.

 
pez
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11 July, 2018 21:44
Well that was a bit of an anti climax?

Move on and lets concentratecon all thing Tranmere Rovers.

Least said about that shambles tonight, the better.

Was good while it lasted but the dream is now over at least for another 4 years.

The big names failed to turn up tonight and we paid the price.

My favourite for the World Cup is France.

Well done though to GS and his young team.

 
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11 July, 2018 21:50
yeah one game too far but the way they have played has been fantastic. the first england team for a long time who will come home and as faces instead of heels.

saves us getting marmalised by the french midfield as well.

 
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11 July, 2018 21:56
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Can’t argue with that one, Croatians dominated them physically and Ultimatley is it 2 goals from open play just don’t have the quality and that showed even against Columbia right team deservedly won.

+ 1 no complaints here. croatia dominated from about 25 mins on.. they didnt panic when they went down to an early goal. there were signs late in that 1st half that there midfield would take a foothold in that 2nd half and thats exactly what they did. from the 46th min they took complete control of the whole game. they didnt dominate clinically but they dominated with complete authority. they are a side that dont need a big striker or front man or goalscorer,, their midfield can take care of that business...dont like to single out england players but where the f*ck was harry kane for 90 mins??????

 
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11 July, 2018 22:02
The limitations have been apparent all along but they've successfully compensated for them until tonight. For that, and they way they've gone about their business generally, they still deserve enormous credit. This whole adventure still feels more like a one-off than the start of something big, though, and they'll regret not finishing the Croats off in the first half for a long time to come. No argument about the result in the end though.

Not bothered about Saturday's game, presumably Rovers won't be changing the kick off time of the Wigan friendly(?)

 
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11 July, 2018 22:17
at least england can hold their heads high and there is something to build on, unlike the iceland shambles 2 years ago when there was nothing but humiliation and no future and complete despondancy and hopelessness.



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11 July, 2018 23:16
really disappointed with harry kane tonight. he wasnt getting much in the way of service and he gave up without dropping deep to try n get the ball and try to get things going.. at least rashford tried when he came on and he was getting zero service too. big big let down tonight was kane imo regardless of whether the croats did a job on him.

 
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12 July, 2018 05:19
Real shame that was, better team won, but so hard to take being so close. We got promoted though, wahhaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!.

 
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12 July, 2018 06:37
couldnt believe how many times England passed the ball back last night.

 
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12 July, 2018 07:06
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couldnt believe how many times England passed the ball back last night.

Should of had that game dead and buried by half time.

 
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12 July, 2018 07:15
wouldnt say it was a shock last night that crotia beat england. the croatians are a good strong side and they have an excellent midfield, thats what croatia are all about, their midfield..the biggest shock last night was Federer losing at Wimbledon after being 2 sets up..anyway england did well to the semis.

 
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12 July, 2018 07:26
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Can’t argue with that one, Croatians dominated them physically and Ultimatley is it 2 goals from open play just don’t have the quality and that showed even against Columbia right team deservedly won.

Exactly. No real quality. Huff, puff, effort, pace, but no idea how to put it together in the attacking third when the opposition defence isn't stretched. Southgate has done a fantastic job, but I don't really buy his still more to come line, because I can't see the talent being there on the ball. Where is the guy who can open up the defence and create an opportunity, or dominate possession. Without that I can't see any great things to come. This team got very lucky with the draw - how many past England sides wouldn't have come through that group and failed against Colombia and Sweden in the knockout stages? Not many I think.

 
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12 July, 2018 07:41
It looked good for 35minutes should have been 2 up by half time ,very poor second half just dropped off and allowed them to much space ,you could see that result coming .Kane was poor and don’t mention Sterling ,,but the signs are good for the future ,only a young team .Croatia had to much experience and physically dominated them .they got further than I thought .but saying that the general standard of the teams compared to other world cups was not very high ,but well organised some very good games and no trouble so well done Russia

 
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12 July, 2018 08:23
Kane was poor, but he's going to miss sometimes. The problem is, like many before him, he's an out and out striker - strong, holds the ball up well, good in the air, has that goal scorer's instinct - but he needs the right service in and around the box. He didn't get any. Most of his touches seemed to be out wide or on the half way line. He's not hurting anyone out there.

Sterling was mostly very effective in the last 2 games, but for all his running, effort and work off the ball his issues remain the same - what does he deliver with the ball? Not much. You can work as much as you want, but if there's no end product you aren't achieving anything for the team. No goals, no goals created, no real opportunities created for the team and he doesn't even create much space to open up defences for others to take advantage of. Yet the team looked better with him on than off. That says quite a bit about the lack of quality in the midfield to me.

 
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12 July, 2018 08:59
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Real shame that was, better team won, but so hard to take being so close. We got promoted though, wahhaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!.
hard to take yes but no where near the hurt of fgr last year or villa years ago. They took a long time to get over

 
mrGr33n13
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12 July, 2018 09:55
Sterling was spent especially second half. Kane was spent after the Columbia game, looked very sluggish througout. Lindgard looked like he had lost some energy also.

The only disappointig thing for me about last night was that England reverted to type. A few sideways passes in midfield and then back to he keeper to be launched up. There wasn't people playing between the lines and being brave on and off the ball.

Now maybe without sterling and lindgard being totally at it those lines weren't open, but it was a difficult watch after the bravery and style of the games upto that point.

Walker was exposed as a centre back for their goal.

Would have liked to see loftus being given a chance to run at the croatian defence last night.

But very optimistic about the future. There's a lot more players to come through and they aren't burdened with the baggage of the past.

Great world cup and france and kante should be worthy winners now.

 
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12 July, 2018 12:10
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Sterling was spent especially second half. Kane was spent after the Columbia game, looked very sluggish througout. Lindgard looked like he had lost some energy also.
The only disappointig thing for me about last night was that England reverted to type. A few sideways passes in midfield and then back to he keeper to be launched up. There wasn't people playing between the lines and being brave on and off the ball.

Now maybe without sterling and lindgard being totally at it those lines weren't open, but it was a difficult watch after the bravery and style of the games upto that point.

Walker was exposed as a centre back for their goal.

Would have liked to see loftus being given a chance to run at the croatian defence last night.

But very optimistic about the future. There's a lot more players to come through and they aren't burdened with the baggage of the past.

Great world cup and france and kante should be worthy winners now.

+ 1 i pretty much agree with.all of this..England did quite well for the first 25/30 mins then Croatia took control of the game. fair play to croatia they deserved it.


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