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trfc-boi
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Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 19:49
He’s a proven Goal scorer....let’s put some money down see if it’s enough !

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 21:26
Easier said than done ,will they sell would he come ,can we afford him ,I would have him at the club ,can’t see it happening

 
mini_andy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 21:43
They don’t need to sell him, so unless he has a release in his contract, then I can’t see it happening

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 21:45
Agree and if we could not match the offer of Walsall to Cooke I cannot see us paying a sizeable transfer fee plus the wages to entice him away.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 21:46
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Agree and if we could not match the offer of Walsall to Cooke I cannot see us paying a sizeable transfer fee plus the wages to entice him away.

It depends how much Rowe himself wants to play in the Football League.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
28 June, 2018 22:26
A few weeks ago Rowe was reportedly keen to move to the FL and Challinor was almost touting him, saying they wouldn't be asking silly money. Haven't heard anything since then.

 
ming05
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 12:07
Heard we put bid in, but just rumour so far .

 
paulbyron
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 12:41
I was thinking the same as hoots mon fylde may be his comfort zone

 
pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 14:14
Hes knocking on in years age wise, 29 I think? a move this year could be his last chance to do so.

Unless he remains at Fylde and they manage to win promotion next season.

His age is probably putting most clubs off I guess? Probably thinking if hes that good, then why hasnt he made it in the F.L by now?

If he was a free agent then maybe someone would take a punt on him.

Hes got a year left on his current deal at Fylde so unless he signs an extension, he could go on the cheap in the January Window.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 14:47
Michael Cheek still at Dagenham and Redbridge. Looks like they've started another sale period-3 players out to Barnet yesterday

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 16:24
Has Mellon got the cheek to put a bid in ,a good acquisition I would say

 
AndyMase
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
29 June, 2018 17:17
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DevonExile
Agree and if we could not match the offer of Walsall to Cooke I cannot see us paying a sizeable transfer fee plus the wages to entice him away.
Could we not match his wages? I know we couldn't match L1 status but is wages just a guess?

 
prentonpete1
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
30 June, 2018 13:49
Already made an offer nowhere. near enough.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
30 June, 2018 20:00
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Agree and if we could not match the offer of Walsall to Cooke I cannot see us paying a sizeable transfer fee plus the wages to entice him away.
Could we not match his wages? I know we couldn't match L1 status but is wages just a guess?

These players want a lot of money, was it banded around somewhere that Ihekwi is on £4K a week now, Peterborough wouldnt match his wage demands anyhow. It’s not a case of clubs saying we will give these lads a go but agents and players demanding big dollar or miss the boat for the next hot prospect. Personally I’d stay away for the contract commitments that are required, if your gonna hand over 4 or 5 gees a week you would want proven ability which for me is why I wouldn’t have tried to hold onto Cook. In any case I guess 4 and 5 gees a week is out of our budget.

 
trfc-boi
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
30 June, 2018 21:10
Rowe would be a great addition to the team, proven goal scorer, does he want to play EFL of course why stay non-league, money talks but Rovers will have a limit of wages......watch this space

 
mini_andy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
30 June, 2018 22:03
I’ve heard £100k has been rejected. But not from a reliable news feed to say the least!

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 00:19
Ihiekwe on £4,000 a week would be a light pay packet by today's Championship standards and in league one, still a middling not top end pay packet now.

Admittedly for all the added revnue stream currently flowing into the Palios' coffers, Tranmere in league one could spend more than before but I doubt it would be quite enough to spend £4,000 on somebody.

Though I think it could be possible at that level, to pay a cheeky £3,000 a week on one player, depending on the budget structure.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 06:19
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mini_andy
I’ve heard £100k has been rejected. But not from a reliable news feed to say the least!

100k f%%k that I know times moved along but Aldo was 250 wasn't he. Move along please Mr Rowe

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 14:41
You have to wonder if some of that fee had been added to our offer to Cooke would he have stayed

 
mrGr33n13
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 14:48
cooke has siad it might have been his only chance for L1 football.

zero chance of him staying, anything short of ridiculous money would have been rejected.



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Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 18:47
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DevonExile
You have to wonder if some of that fee had been added to our offer to Cooke would he have stayed

I wouldn’t have paid Cook, we’ve already got 4 gambles at this level 2 up front without him, he’s unproven. We don’t need to recruit another gamble.

Norwood, Jennings, Tollit, Norburn,

 
trfc-boi
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 20:01
The addition of Mullin adds another forward, maybe Waring still has future..

I think we still would benefit from another forward



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Steve-Coll
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 20:21
Having got my lads football signed today Mullins been given the number 9 shirt - I know you can’t read too much into it but would that indicate he’s more than a “squad”
Player?

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
01 July, 2018 20:22
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Having got my lads football signed today Mullins been given the number 9 shirt - I know you can’t read too much into it but would that indicate he’s more than a “squad”
Player?

Sounds like it! He best be brilliant then!

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 09:20
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You have to wonder if some of that fee had been added to our offer to Cooke would he have stayed

I wouldn’t have paid Cook, we’ve already got 4 gambles at this level 2 up front without him, he’s unproven. We don’t need to recruit another gamble.

Norwood, Jennings, Tollit, Norburn,
Any signing is unproven as there is never a quarentee that what worked at one club will work at another.. Many clubs that have come up to Div 2 have retained the core of a team without substantial league experience.Lincoln are but one example.
Cooke was a proven scorer and for that reason there are are reasonable grounds to think that he could have stepped up a division.Walsall certainly thought so.Rowe has already stepped up a league and continued to score goals, so yes there is a risk but it is a reasonable risk.
.We are unlikely to be able to afford a striker like Stockley who is already a proven score at this level so we have to look in directions which offer possibility and hopefully probability of success.The more of the latter the greater the cost..
Most of the side are unproven at league level. McNulty has some experience but lost his place when last in the league and is untested at his age. The same can be said for Sutton and Ridehaigh was part of a team that was at that time woefully inadequate.None of that means they are any more a risk than any other signing.Norwood failed at Exeter but he is an infinitely better player now than then.We could do with an additional striker for the real risk would be having to depend on Waring as cover when the evidence of last year suggests that he is not remotely of league standard

 
pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 16:08
Im a bit concerned that weve let a 20+ goals a season striker move on without signing another striker of proven ability.

Mullin will not bag anywhere near that ammount of goals next season and hes been given the number 9 shirt?

If hes been playing in midfield for Swindon, then Im guessing hes better in midfield than up front?

We play our first pre season game on Saturday and we have not brought in a quality striker yet. Shocking!

I hope to be eating my words, but surely we cant be hanging our hopes on Mullin?

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 16:13
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pez
Im a bit concerned that weve let a 20+ goals a season striker move on without signing another striker of proven ability.
Mullin will not bag anywhere near that ammount of goals next season and hes been given the number 9 shirt?

If hes been playing in midfield for Swindon, then Im guessing hes better in midfield than up front?

We play our first pre season game on Saturday and we have not brought in a quality striker yet. Shocking!

I hope to be eating my words, but surely we cant be hanging our hopes on Mullin?

I’m wondering if we are holding out for a loan striker once all the permanent moves have completed.

 
jonesy792
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 16:24
Pez, I agree with you entirely. Mullin seems to me to be competition for Connor Jennings, but certainly not a replacement for Cook. I’m disappointed we haven’t brought in a decent replacement for Cook. But I’m guessing we’ve lost out on a few targets, incl Rowe and Ferrier.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 16:25
Even Wrexham have just signed their new striker. Mike Fondop-Talom on a two year deal. No, me neither... Non-league journeyman apparently, causing a meltdown on their forum!

Would've been nice to have someone in for the training camp in Scotland (maybe we have and just don't know yet) but still enough time before the season, not worried yet.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 17:14
I see that Barnet have agreed a fee for prolific striker John Akinde but they have yet to name the club he is going to, other than its a league club. I have just been on a Barnet fans forum and some are saying he is on his way to Lincoln, others are saying that he will stay in London with Charlton and Wimbledon being named. Akinde and Andrade a force for Lincoln maybe? I suppose all will be revealed soon as to where he is going.



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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 17:35
a helluva lot of talk n rumours on the Lincoln fans forum that Akinde could be on his way to Sincil Bank.. Matt Rhead possibly being slowly shown to the door???

 
pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 17:39
Mullins stats are bad to say the least 31 goals in 162 appearences.

Im betting there has to be far better players out there?

I know we have just over a month until our first outing, however, pre season games are important to enable MM to see how hes going to line up next season.

Signing players late on in the window doesnt allow enough time to gain a full perspective on their ability within our set up.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 17:52
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Even Wrexham have just signed their new striker. Mike Fondop-Talom on a two year deal. No, me neither... Non-league journeyman apparently, causing a meltdown on their forum!
Would've been nice to have someone in for the training camp in Scotland (maybe we have and just don't know yet) but still enough time before the season, not worried yet.

He played for Halifax against us at their place in April and,being polite,wasn't very good.

 
mini_andy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 17:55
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pez
Mullins stats are bad to say the least 31 goals in 162 appearences.
Im betting there has to be far better players out there?

I know we have just over a month until our first outing, however, pre season games are important to enable MM to see how hes going to line up next season.

Signing players late on in the window doesnt allow enough time to gain a full perspective on their ability within our set up.

He played out on the wing last season. Think of Nors before his move to us. Have faith.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 18:06
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You have to wonder if some of that fee had been added to our offer to Cooke would he have stayed

I wouldn’t have paid Cook, we’ve already got 4 gambles at this level 2 up front without him, he’s unproven. We don’t need to recruit another gamble.

Norwood, Jennings, Tollit, Norburn,
Any signing is unproven as there is never a quarentee that what worked at one club will work at another.. Many clubs that have come up to Div 2 have retained the core of a team without substantial league experience.Lincoln are but one example.
Cooke was a proven scorer and for that reason there are are reasonable grounds to think that he could have stepped up a division.Walsall certainly thought so.Rowe has already stepped up a league and continued to score goals, so yes there is a risk but it is a reasonable risk.
.We are unlikely to be able to afford a striker like Stockley who is already a proven score at this level so we have to look in directions which offer possibility and hopefully probability of success.The more of the latter the greater the cost..
Most of the side are unproven at league level. McNulty has some experience but lost his place when last in the league and is untested at his age. The same can be said for Sutton and Ridehaigh was part of a team that was at that time woefully inadequate.None of that means they are any more a risk than any other signing.Norwood failed at Exeter but he is an infinitely better player now than then.We could do with an additional striker for the real risk would be having to depend on Waring as cover when the evidence of last year suggests that he is not remotely of league standard

Yes quite, but some are more proven than others, I would raise the fact that if Cook was so good why he was playing at Barrow when we signed him. He is no where near the top of the top scorers chart in terms f the conference. I agree we need to keep the core of the team to keep winning mentality.

I am concerned at the melt down in terms of “not replacing” Cook, none of us have a clue what the managers target in terms of league position is, nor the state of the finances, nor the style of play we intend to employ, I personally am unconcerned at Cooks loss, I see our success this season being based around a tight defence and pace on the break. I suspect Mark Palios will see success as avoiding relegation, clearly I do not know this but I can’t see a promotion charge being realistic, clearly if it happens it will not be unwelcome. I am concerned that “Right to be there” attitude will creep back in with fans thinking we should blitz through the divisions into the Championship in 2 seasons.

 
cintraman
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 18:52
I spoke to MP at the open day and he definitely would not regard avoiding relegation as a 'success'. He feels that at least involvement in the playoffs is achievable

 
jonesy792
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 19:51
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You have to wonder if some of that fee had been added to our offer to Cooke would he have stayed

I wouldn’t have paid Cook, we’ve already got 4 gambles at this level 2 up front without him, he’s unproven. We don’t need to recruit another gamble.

Norwood, Jennings, Tollit, Norburn,
Any signing is unproven as there is never a quarentee that what worked at one club will work at another.. Many clubs that have come up to Div 2 have retained the core of a team without substantial league experience.Lincoln are but one example.
Cooke was a proven scorer and for that reason there are are reasonable grounds to think that he could have stepped up a division.Walsall certainly thought so.Rowe has already stepped up a league and continued to score goals, so yes there is a risk but it is a reasonable risk.
.We are unlikely to be able to afford a striker like Stockley who is already a proven score at this level so we have to look in directions which offer possibility and hopefully probability of success.The more of the latter the greater the cost..
Most of the side are unproven at league level. McNulty has some experience but lost his place when last in the league and is untested at his age. The same can be said for Sutton and Ridehaigh was part of a team that was at that time woefully inadequate.None of that means they are any more a risk than any other signing.Norwood failed at Exeter but he is an infinitely better player now than then.We could do with an additional striker for the real risk would be having to depend on Waring as cover when the evidence of last year suggests that he is not remotely of league standard

Yes quite, but some are more proven than others, I would raise the fact that if Cook was so good why he was playing at Barrow when we signed him. He is no where near the top of the top scorers chart in terms f the conference. I agree we need to keep the core of the team to keep winning mentality.

I am concerned at the melt down in terms of “not replacing” Cook, none of us have a clue what the managers target in terms of league position is, nor the state of the finances, nor the style of play we intend to employ, I personally am unconcerned at Cooks loss, I see our success this season being based around a tight defence and pace on the break. I suspect Mark Palios will see success as avoiding relegation, clearly I do not know this but I can’t see a promotion charge being realistic, clearly if it happens it will not be unwelcome. I am concerned that “Right to be there” attitude will creep back in with fans thinking we should blitz through the divisions into the Championship in 2 seasons.


"Pace on the break" - I'd love to see where this is going to come from, particularly if Tollitt turns out to disappoint again and not regain the form and fitness he had before his injury.

I am more concerned by the "avoid relegation" attitude. That seems contrary to everything I've heard MP say. I don't think we can rest on our laurels and assume this side is good enough, hence the sense of urgency for replacing Cook.

Of course we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. I'm sure they are trying hard and have prob lost out on a number of targets

 
rossb07
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 20:43
The people who work with the players know how good they are. If they want to say what they reckon they’re capable of then good on them but as I’ve said from the day after Wembley, I’ll take 22nd now and anything else will keep me ecstatic through the season.

The only sense of urgency I see in replacing Cook is from some fans, we all think we know something better than those employed by the club but we have to keep the faith that they know what they’re employed to do...

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 22:17
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I spoke to MP at the open day and he definitely would not regard avoiding relegation as a 'success'. He feels that at least involvement in the playoffs is achievable

I would wholly concur with this sentiment.

Look at it this way; when Tranmere dropped into league 2, was it not feasible to suggest many felt a challenge for top 7 was possible, despite losing Taylor and Lowe.

Tranmere's reported budget then was £1,000,000 and recently on here the budget was reported at £1,200,000 which is level with the last League 1 budget and 20% more than the £1,000,000, 4 years ago, which given the improvements in revenue stream was a logical assertion, that more would be available to the manager than last time in league 2.

So if the potential expectation was to challenge with less money than now the last time, why would expectation be worse with more money, especially as many of the current squad have League 2 experience and a goodly amount of it.

Frankly given the difference in the quality of both leagues, second in the NL could potentially translate to 7th or potentially better in league 2, with the right additions, so for me finishing 2-3 places above the drop zone would be poor.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
jal jal
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
02 July, 2018 22:56
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a helluva lot of talk n rumours on the Lincoln fans forum that Akinde could be on his way to Sincil Bank.. Matt Rhead possibly being slowly shown to the door???


Hi Hong Kong

Matt Rhead is still in the mix with Lincoln.
When the season ends Danny Cowley gives all the players a training routine they must do so that they are in good shape for pr-season training.
And Matt Rhead has worked hard on his and has come back a lot slimmer than he was, so he is showing his intentions of keeping his place in the team

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 12:06
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I spoke to MP at the open day and he definitely would not regard avoiding relegation as a 'success'. He feels that at least involvement in the playoffs is achievable

Totally. He's gone out of his way to say, on many occasions, that a top third budget and being in the playoff picture (ie top third) of whatever league you are in is what he wants. That was his definition of sustainability and what his business model is being based on. We did it each year in the NL, I can't see him backtracking on that with a season of consolidation in L2. Mid-table might be acceptable to the fans this year, but I'm sure MP wants more.

 
Aldo40
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 12:41
Following on from previous threads, if Mullin has been handed the no.9
shirt it suggests that he & Nors could well be the front 2 strikers.
This is a little concerning as replacing Cooky with Mullin seems a little
lightweight.
We may well be still pursuing a new striker,have been unsuccessful so far,
have to bide our time or tinker with the formation.
I do think however our lineup is needing a target man!
It sounds like Mullin is a good player and a good addition,but we maybe
expecting too much if he is the like for like replacement.
Incidentally Mark Palios is ambitious and his speech at PP the day after
our Wembley triumph, suggests he is looking for back to back promotions.
Some fans talk of 22nd is very underwhelming!!

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 12:44
There's no doubt that the club aims to be competing at the top end of the table as soon as possible but there's also no doubt that the squad that got us promoted could easily get sucked into a relegation dog fight. We're making decent progress in building towards the former and reducing the risk of the latter but we're not there yet by any means. Think this is why the fans have such vastly differing hopes and expectations right now for the season ahead, but I'm sure the overwhelming majority share the longer term vision Palios has set out, and believe it's achievable.

 
jonesy792
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 13:03
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Following on from previous threads, if Mullin has been handed the no.9
shirt it suggests that he & Nors could well be the front 2 strikers.
This is a little concerning as replacing Cooky with Mullin seems a little
lightweight.
We may well be still pursuing a new striker,have been unsuccessful so far,
have to bide our time or tinker with the formation.
I do think however our lineup is needing a target man!
It sounds like Mullin is a good player and a good addition,but we maybe
expecting too much if he is the like for like replacement.
Incidentally Mark Palios is ambitious and his speech at PP the day after
our Wembley triumph, suggests he is looking for back to back promotions.
Some fans talk of 22nd is very underwhelming!!

+1

 
rossb07
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 13:06
I’m going to presume that the finishing 22nd comment was divulged from my post.

I didn’t say we would finish there but i’d take that position and anything above (which in my opinion is 99.98% certain) will keep me happy all season whilst some squirm when we’re not top by Christmas calling for Mellon’s head.

Just briefly, no-one other than the squad and the staff are aware of what formation and how we’ll setup for the friendlies let alone the season will be so we may not need a target man. I also wouldn’t say Mullin is Cook’s replacement even if he got the #9 jersey. Two complete contrasting play styles and IMO from what I’ve seen from Mullin so far (only in the form of vids) that he’d fair better than Cook if we shape up like last year playing it about on the ground...

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 13:23
We improved our gates in the national because we were winning and every season started with an expectation of success,
If we settled for staying in the league we could easily end up back in the same vortex of our last few years in the league.Lack of ambition or a plan by the board resulted in erosion of support and the inevitable outcome.
It would be folly to set sights low.Every chairman is cheap with rhetoric, many will remember the naff 'the fight back starts here'.Palios is better than this.I have more confidence in him than I do in the expertise of those that judge the relative worth of the players and what we need to do well.
It is not a criticism of them but a relative judgement.We got needs very wrong last summer albeit that a good job was made of reshaping after that. Many will feel that not replacing a prolific scorer is something of a gamble.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 13:49
Our gates didn't improve in the National but they did hold up, levelling off to being almost identical to our last two relegation seasons in the FL. Even if we were to struggle in the upcoming season, I'd expect the average to remain above 5,000. A good platform.

The ambition of the club and the plans it has to achieve that ambition do indeed suggest it'd be folly to set sights low but the first (but hopefully not the only) target next season will still be to ensure safety. The sooner we look like achieving that the better.

I've total faith in the owners and management to deliver the clubs ambitions but it's sobering to think that, if we do happen to finish 22nd, it'll be the highest finish in the five years of the Palios era. No wonder he's aiming higher!

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 14:41
Well, we kind of did improve the gates if you only account for home support. For the overall total to stay the same given a reduced number of away fans the number of home fans must have increased. I'm not entirely convinced that the gates improved purely because we were winning either. It was part of the reason, but I suspect the generally positive vibes from the club - in contrast to the last half decade under PJ's ownership - also was a big factor. That's why I don't expect crowds to drop even if we do struggle. The positivity around the place makes it a totally different proposition than when we were last here.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 18:34
Parantly we are in for Fat Rhead, mate in footy assures me, he was spot on with Ellis and Banks. Hope he is wrong on this one and just stirring it. (Sm102)

 
Loyden1
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 18:39
Yeh hopeso think he not liked by us .need the pitch to stay in good nick don't want him rolling all over it. Like the mcgoldrick rumour better

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 19:15
Rhead is a knob, but he fits the bill I guess

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
03 July, 2018 23:34
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Parantly we are in for Fat Rhead, mate in footy assures me, he was spot on with Ellis and Banks. Hope he is wrong on this one and just stirring it. (Sm102)

However Banks would have been a likely possible, with a good previous at Tranmere.

However Ellis would have been a less obvious judgement call.

Rhead seems to be a bit controversial, but compared to someone like Lee Hughes his reputation and certainly background appear less seamy.



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jonesy792
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
04 July, 2018 09:17
I think Rhead would be a quality signing, but I doubt Lincoln would let him come to a league rival

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
04 July, 2018 12:17
His scoring record last year was not particularly impressive

 
pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
04 July, 2018 12:32
Matt Rhead is too old and too fat!

We must have better options than him available to us.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
04 July, 2018 20:50
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Parantly we are in for Fat Rhead, mate in footy assures me, he was spot on with Ellis and Banks. Hope he is wrong on this one and just stirring it. (Sm102)

However Banks would have been a likely possible, with a good previous at Tranmere.

However Ellis would have been a less obvious judgement call.

Rhead seems to be a bit controversial, but compared to someone like Lee Hughes his reputation and certainly background appear less seamy.

Matt he knows his stuff, makes a living out of the game, given the heads up on a few moves, Tranmere and not, I think he is likely trying to wind me up with this one though at least I hope he is, Rhead is crap

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
05 July, 2018 16:46
Quigley signed for Port Vale.



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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
05 July, 2018 16:53
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Rowe signed for Port Vale.


blimey, vale are building up one helluva an arsenal of strikers, ricky miller, kanu, louis dodds , they've just taken a striker on loan from blackpool and now danny rowe and not forgetting they have tom pope too up front,, this seems like overkill

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
05 July, 2018 16:54
omit danny rowe now lol, had me a tad worried there Belmont lol

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
05 July, 2018 17:01
still no news on john akinde, latest reports say he is in advanced talks with Lincoln and Lincoln are splashing the cash to get him.

 
Tommy Egg
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 13:50
Are we writing off Waring when thinking about a lanky target man after all he claims to be a Peter Crouch protégée .Suppose pre - season will tell, or is he being moved on ?

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 14:41
The thing that worries me about Waring is that he couldn't get a game at National League level so why would we pin our hopes on him in the F.L?

Just hasn't worked for him here so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became part of Micky's plans?

Just a bit concerned that we haven't brought in a proven target man by now to give whoever it may be, a decent pre season work out.

Just under a month until we begin our campaign and IMO the sooner we sort this position the better.

 
DevonExile
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 14:55
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Are we writing off Waring when thinking about a lanky target man after all he claims to be a Peter Crouch protégée .Suppose pre - season will tell, or is he being moved on ?
He was written out by Kiddiminster so it is hard to see the grounds for him be written in here at two divisions higher.Tall and lanky he may be but that is not much of a qualification.He is here because he was one of the misjudged signings of last year compounded by giving him a two year contract.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 18:46
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The thing that worries me about Waring is that he couldn't get a game at National League level so why would we pin our hopes on him in the F.L?
Just hasn't worked for him here so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became part of Micky's plans?

Just a bit concerned that we haven't brought in a proven target man by now to give whoever it may be, a decent pre season work out.

Just under a month until we begin our campaign and IMO the sooner we sort this position the better.

There is always the possibility Mickys happy

 
jal jal
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 19:28
Lincoln have now signed Akinde on a 3 year deal

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pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 21:57
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The thing that worries me about Waring is that he couldn't get a game at National League level so why would we pin our hopes on him in the F.L?
Just hasn't worked for him here so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became part of Micky's plans?

Just a bit concerned that we haven't brought in a proven target man by now to give whoever it may be, a decent pre season work out.

Just under a month until we begin our campaign and IMO the sooner we sort this position the better.

There is always the possibility Mickys happy

You reckon?

We lose a decent striker and not replace him, and hes happy with that?

Its more likely that were being priced out of the market for potential targets imo.

Surely getting your team assembled early and having a decent pre season is beneficial?

Last seasons pre season was a joke and it showed in the first few months of the campaign.

I just dont buy your comment that hes happy.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 22:47
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The thing that worries me about Waring is that he couldn't get a game at National League level so why would we pin our hopes on him in the F.L?
Just hasn't worked for him here so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became part of Micky's plans?

Just a bit concerned that we haven't brought in a proven target man by now to give whoever it may be, a decent pre season work out.

Just under a month until we begin our campaign and IMO the sooner we sort this position the better.
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There is always the possibility Mickys happy

You reckon?

We lose a decent striker and not replace him, and hes happy with that?

Its more likely that were being priced out of the market for potential targets imo.

Surely getting your team assembled early and having a decent pre season is beneficial?

Last seasons pre season was a joke and it showed in the first few months of the campaign.

I just dont buy your comment that hes happy.

Sorry I was unaware there was no possibility Micky may be happy with his team and that team building is behind schedule, a small petition or sit down protest may alert the club to the unfolding crisis after all it was such a let down last season, I'm sure the club are looking forward to the promise of a return to non league football.



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pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
06 July, 2018 23:00
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The thing that worries me about Waring is that he couldn't get a game at National League level so why would we pin our hopes on him in the F.L?
Just hasn't worked for him here so I would be very surprised if he suddenly became part of Micky's plans?

Just a bit concerned that we haven't brought in a proven target man by now to give whoever it may be, a decent pre season work out.


Just under a month until we begin our campaign and IMO the sooner we sort this position the better.
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There is always the possibility Mickys happy

You reckon?

We lose a decent striker and not replace him, and hes happy with that?

Its more likely that were being priced out of the market for potential targets imo.

Surely getting your team assembled early and having a decent pre season is beneficial?

Last seasons pre season was a joke and it showed in the first few months of the campaign.

I just dont buy your comment that hes happy.

Sorry I was unaware there was no possibility he may be happy with his team and that team building is behind schedule, such a let down last season whatever will we do restricted to another season in the National League.

No need for the sarcasm, but you cant deny the start of last season was shocking.

If you have to resort to sarcasm youve basically lost your argument.

We had a very short pre season last summer and I honestly think it affected us badly.

Nobodys saying we had a bad season, but had we prepared properly, we may just have finished as champions.

You must be the only one on here whos not a little concerned about us not replacing Cook?

All I was trying to say is that if we get a new striker in sooner rather than later, it gives the team a month to prepare as a squad.

 
bheadlad
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
11 July, 2018 05:43
I wonder how much they actually want for Rowe
Leaving it too late and they might end up getting zero for him while he must realise that his chance of league football will disappear.Maybe Tranmere are biding their time as Fylde would be best to sell sooner if they want to replace before new season

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Should we just go for Rowe
11 July, 2018 22:58
Mellon did an interview after the Liverpool game refusing to discuss other peoples players, so at bets the rumour mill has Rowe down as a possible, but for all anyone truly knows 100%, Mellon has never called Dave Challinor or anyone else connected to the player and even hinted at interest.

However Rowe would certainly add something to the squad I'm convinced.



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pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 14:00
Micky indicated that the club doesnt have pots of money to splash about, and with Fylde being comfortable financially, I doubt they would let Rowe leave on the cheap.

Good strikers are in high demand at this time of year, and the better they are the more they cost.

I would imagine if we did fancy Rowe as Cooks replacement, then he'll probably be out of our price range?

If he doesnt sign a new deal at Fylde, then maybe he'll go for less in the January window?

Dont think we'll be parting with cash until we've exhausted the free agent and loan signing options.

What valuation would fellow posters put on Rowe? Bearing in mind his age and that hes in the last year of his current contract?

Id be prepared to part with £100k, but would carry out a thorough due diligence on other £100k players before making any final decision.
That would ensure the money has been spent wisely.

I dont know whos still available out there, but at least we havent made any panic signings up to now.

 
bheadlad
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 16:01
100k would be the max bearing in mind his age and 1 year left on contract and probably Rowe knowing it could be his last chance to make any league dreams work

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 16:50
£100k for a guy who is 29 and has no FL pedigree! Seriously? I get it if you are talking about a 22/23 year old that might do a Vardy, but not at that age. That's nearly 10% of our reported budget (excluding wages) on a player who is unproven at this level and who you will never recoup anything for.

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 16:57
My understanding is that Rowe does have league experience but, frankly didn't deliver and ended up in Non League where, he has scored lots of goals.

 
bheadlad
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 18:35
He does have some limited experience but I would say 50k with maybe an appearance or buy back clause as we would not afford 100k otherwise look elsewhere soon
What about a season long loan from one of the premier league/championship clubs for one of their big young strikers,Any ideas of who?

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 19:02
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He does have some limited experience but I would say 50k with maybe an appearance or buy back clause as we would not afford 100k otherwise look elsewhere soon
What about a season long loan from one of the premier league/championship clubs for one of their big young strikers,Any ideas of who?

even though I am not a massive fan of loans ( especially short term ones ) but a season long loan striker could be an option for rovers, especially if we are having problems finding a replacement for cook.. this summer, a lot of league 1 n 2 clubs are taking on players on full season long loan deals.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
12 July, 2018 19:16
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He does have some limited experience but I would say 50k with maybe an appearance or buy back clause as we would not afford 100k otherwise look elsewhere soon
What about a season long loan from one of the premier league/championship clubs for one of their big young strikers,Any ideas of who?

Young PL signings don’t really work at this level, mostly they have been brought up in protected environments playing two touch on summer carpets and winter 3G indoors in games with roll on roll off subs where everybody just lets everybody else knock it about without really sticking a tackle in they therefore struggle in the lower tiers with the likes of big Macca knocking people off the park. This was highly evident in England’s performance last night when Croatia decided they would start leaning on people and the young side just didn’t know what to do about it.

 
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Matt34 (IP Logged)

Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 00:29
Row played for Fleetwood for some of the time Mellon was in charge, but it seems whilst they were both there Rowe got loaned out a few times.

So Mellon's history with Rowe is one thing, but the loan spells indicate Mellon felt he was not adequate to play, so would his attitude have changed now?

Perhaps an indicator he's not even interested.

Considering Rowe's age and lack of league experience £100,000 would be about right.



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pez
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 11:25
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Row played for Fleetwood for some of the time Mellon was in charge, but it seems whilst they were both there Rowe got loaned out a few times.
So Mellon's history with Rowe is one thing, but the loan spells indicate Mellon felt he was not adequate to play, so would his attitude have changed now?

Perhaps an indicator he's not even interested.

Considering Rowe's age and lack of league experience £100,000 would be about right.

Don't forget though Matt, it was reported that Micky also fell out with Cook too at the start of last season preferring to leave him on the bench.

Rowe and Cook both went on to great things last season and recruitment should really be based on what they do on the field of play.

Were not the Big Fish in this league and there's more competition from our fellow league members to sign these quality players.

As Micky said the other day, we haven't struck oil and there are clubs in L2 who have the ability to out bid us for players.

If we do have to spend, it will be after all other avenues have been exhausted, and then there will be a limit to what we can afford.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 16:56
I see that Bury have signed striker Jordan Archer from Chester. We were semi-linked with him not too long ago. He didn't do a great deal at Chester but I think he had injury problems whilst he was there.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 17:07
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I see that Bury have signed striker Jordan Archer from Chester. We were semi-linked with him not too long ago. He didn't do a great deal at Chester but I think he had injury problems whilst he was there.

Archer was one of a few players Chester fans wanted to keep. He obviously impressed most of them albeit with limited appearances. He was seen as someone with potential, rather than the finished article, so it's a speculative acquisition for Bury.

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 17:13
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I see that Bury have signed striker Jordan Archer from Chester. We were semi-linked with him not too long ago. He didn't do a great deal at Chester but I think he had injury problems whilst he was there.

Archer was one of a few players Chester fans wanted to keep. He obviously impressed most of them albeit with limited appearances. He was seen as someone with potential, rather than the finished article, so it's a speculative acquisition for Bury.

Hi Phil, thks for that, ive just been reading up about his move to Bury, apparently it was an undisclosed but substantial fee and other clubs were interested in him with Salford and Chesterfield being 2 of them, I think Salford and Chesterfield are the bookies favourites to go up from the VNL this season.

 
paulbyron
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 17:44
the chester forum suggests a fee of £20,000 was paid not sure if any addons were involved

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 17:57
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the chester forum suggests a fee of £20,000 was paid not sure if any addons were involved

thks, 20 grand has to be very substantial for chester lol

 
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Re: Should we just go for Rowe
13 July, 2018 20:18
[quote pez][quote Matt34]If we do have to spend, it will be after all other avenues have been exhausted, and then there will be a limit to what we can afford.[/quote]

True enough though, as if any club could bring in the quality they wanted at £0 per season on fees, they'd probably all do it, even the likes of City, Barcelona and Dortmund.

The argument could be though that fees could be spent on improved wages for 2-3 players, so the player has too look good, even more so if the club is not known for spending on fees.

A club signing 3-4 players a season for cash can afford one or two duds, but if you're a club averaging a cash signing ever 1-2 seasons.

People could get antsy if someone like Mullin doesn't deliver, as they could say Mellon could have used his fee to beef up Cooks offer and maybe keep Cook.

I feel confident though the squad will be good enough to cope without Cook and do well.



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