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Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 09:38
Apparently we are looking at Carlisle's centre half, ex Shrews, to take on loan

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 09:46
Ex Shrews ? Well I think we can put that down as a definite any chum of Mellons is a chum of ours

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 09:58
Is this as payment for Stockton in a twisted convoluted way?

Hopefully we'll get those replica white cliffs for the shop soon too.

 
rossb07
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 10:53
Any manager uses players that he's worked with in the past and knows either adds something to the dressing room or is a step up in quality on the pitch.

If MM went for an unknown player that no-one had even scouted, i'd be more worried.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 11:22
Played for FGR against us at Wembley so knows the league.

 
ADD
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 11:32
What puzzles me if this rumour is true is why on earth given we must be under financial pressure would we need another centre back right now when we have McN and Sutton rock solid as first picks with Gumbs as cover in case of injury. Duggan could do a job also at the back and Ridelagh can also if needed. We even supposedly have a young talent in Drysdale who is still with us. Surely midfield is if anything where we should focus given Tollitt and Wallace may be susceptible to injuries after long lay offs and Ginnelly may go back after this month?

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 11:38
I can only imagine either McEveley is on his way or maybe Macca's leg isn't quite right. Although it could just be another rumour which comes to nothing.

Ginnelly's with us for the rest of the season, afaik.

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 11:40
As well as the replica white cliffs off Dover ,we might get a piece of Hadrian’s wall off Carlisle .and then MP can open a artifac centre at PP .any suggestions what we could get off other clubs to go with these .piece of Blackpool rock with SWA running through it perhaps ,an old cannonball off arsenal from Woolwich.a throstles nest off WBA an old hammock off HMS Victory from Portsmouth ?

 
Fiftyyearsarover
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 12:07
Agree with ADD ,we have plenty of cover at centre back for god sake give the young lads a chance I thing Gumbs Duggan plenty good enough they will only get better ,the way Mellon is working we are going to lose our young talent including Pilling very soon ,what is the point of the academy if no one gets a chance ,we need these promising lads to progress and if they turn out a Max power or Cresswell sell them on .you can’t keep young lads for years and when many people think they should be given a chance sideline them .just a waste of time and money .clarke only unfolded by accident not much talked about but already being watched by bigger clubs ,it begs the question has he been signed by Wigan and loaned back that’s gone quiet.it used to lift your heart when Rovers contained players like Irons,GED Brannen ,Garnet .Thomas the tank, Cresswell ,Ryan Taylor Jason Koumas ,Andy Parkinson where are the ones of that Ilk

 
DevonExile
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 13:03
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Agree with ADD ,we have plenty of cover at centre back for god sake give the young lads a chance I thing Gumbs Duggan plenty good enough they will only get better ,the way Mellon is working we are going to lose our young talent including Pilling very soon ,what is the point of the academy if no one gets a chance ,we need these promising lads to progress and if they turn out a Max power or Cresswell sell them on .you can’t keep young lads for years and when many people think they should be given a chance sideline them .just a waste of time and money .clarke only unfolded by accident not much talked about but already being watched by bigger clubs ,it begs the question has he been signed by Wigan and loaned back that’s gone quiet.it used to lift your heart when Rovers contained players like Irons,GED Brannen ,Garnet .Thomas the tank, Cresswell ,Ryan Taylor Jason Koumas ,Andy Parkinson where are the ones of that Ilk
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 13:05
I don't get this either. But probably just another rumour.Presumably out of the Carlisle side at present.

 
dicko111
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 13:27
Dont forget we dont have a reserve side any more .Most 18-20 year olds were released .We kept the likes of Gumbs ,Duggan and Drysdale on but they havent played a game so in my imagination arent match fit .Cant put them into the 1st team for that simple reason .Might as well let them go out on loan to play football anywhere just to get fit and not rust

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 13:45
[quote Hardly Irons]Is this as payment for Stockton in a twisted convoluted way?

Hopefully we'll get those replica white cliffs for the shop soon too.[/quote



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30/01/2018 13:46 by efc0trfc3.

 
stairwaytoheaven
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 14:23
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Apparently we are looking at Carlisle's centre half, ex Shrews, to take on loan

This is the link to the rumour



Mark Ellis rumour

 
Cybertron
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 14:54
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Apparently we are looking at Carlisle's centre half, ex Shrews, to take on loan

This is the link to the rumour



Mark Ellis rumour
looks like a wild rumour, he may well be going somewhere, might even be to PP but very little hard fact in that article.
The back 4/5 isn't something that causes me concern, we have what seems good coverage, with Gumbs, Duggan (is he fit again?), and Drysdale, potentially even McEverly, and options to move Buxton and Rides to centre back if required. The midfield is potentially in need of a little help, much depends on Wallace and Tollitt, and where we could end up exposed is at the front, a big target man who can run all day and leap like a salmon would be ideal.

 
DevonExile
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 16:45
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Dont forget we dont have a reserve side any more .Most 18-20 year olds were released .We kept the likes of Gumbs ,Duggan and Drysdale on but they havent played a game so in my imagination arent match fit .Cant put them into the 1st team for that simple reason .Might as well let them go out on loan to play football anywhere just to get fit and not rust

The same could be said for all those that make up the Bench and it will be true for some considerable time in the case of Wallace and Tollit Anyone joining us but not getting in the first team is also likely to loose any match shatpness.
There is a difference in being match sharp and In being physically fit.Gumbs and Duggan at least offer the latter and yet were overlooked foe McEverley whose fitness is questionable.
Both Gumbs and Duggan have looked sound but since each made their league debuts they have had little opportunity to add experience to their skills.Playing at a lower level is ok for teenagers but does not help players like these. I would not blame either this pair or Philling all decided that Rovers was no place for young talent

 
Loyden1
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 17:37
I thought mceverly had left.must of been wishful thinking

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 18:33
McCeverley has apparently been told he’s surplus, Gumbs isn’t good enough, he’s ok as a stop gap sub appearance but we either want to get out of this league or we don’t, if we don’t then we can play Gumbs or Duggan at centre half.

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 18:47
Mark Ellis was on Loan at Leyton Orient and played in their 2-1 defeat here last October.

I cant remember him apart from the header which whistled past the post with everyone standing still(including Scotty).

 
Loyden1
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 18:48
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McCeverley has apparently been told he’s surplus, Gumbs isn’t good enough, he’s ok as a stop gap sub appearance but we either want to get out of this league or we don’t, if we don’t then we can play Gumbs or Duggan at centre half.
what makes you think gumbs is no good how many times have u seen him .duggan looked good until his injury. I believe they are assets for the future

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 18:49
More the merrier!

 
aktrfc
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 19:24
We have proven with Taylor, that although the fans seem to think we have capable back up, MM doesn't agree. If Micky has go for him, it's for a reason and MP isn't goin to let him spend money for nothing. Trust the boss. Any signing must be seen as possative until proven wrong.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 20:12
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McCeverley has apparently been told he’s surplus, Gumbs isn’t good enough, he’s ok as a stop gap sub appearance but we either want to get out of this league or we don’t, if we don’t then we can play Gumbs or Duggan at centre half.
what makes you think gumbs is no good how many times have u seen him .duggan looked good until his injury. I believe they are assets for the future

I said he’s not Good enough, not he’s no good. He’s a standard non league centre half, nothing special about him. Not particularly athletic, reads the game OK, not particularly quick, has a decent touch. He’s two a penny. Will have a decent NL career but aren’t we looking for promotion and to survive in League 2 so therefore we need the best players in the league.

 
DevonExile
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 20:22
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aktrfc
We have proven with Taylor, that although the fans seem to think we have capable back up, MM doesn't agree. If Micky has go for him, it's for a reason and MP isn't goin to let him spend money for nothing. Trust the boss. Any signing must be seen as possative until proven wrong.

Like Alabi,McEverley,Rokka,Waring.It seems that what you are saying is that the manager is right until proven wrong.Which is fair enough

 
aktrfc
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 20:45
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We have proven with Taylor, that although the fans seem to think we have capable back up, MM doesn't agree. If Micky has go for him, it's for a reason and MP isn't goin to let him spend money for nothing. Trust the boss. Any signing must be seen as possative until proven wrong.

Like Alabi,McEverley,Rokka,Waring.It seems that what you are saying is that the manager is right until proven wrong.Which is fair enough

Just what I'm saying, we all know he gets it wrong from time to time, but for now we have to trust what he doing and if it's wrong, we will all moan about it on here.

 
jonesy792
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 21:31
And MM sees the likes of Gumbs a lot more than the “play the youth” brigade to assess whether he’s good enough. Look at Clarke, if they’re good enough they’ll play !

Ellis would be a good experienced addition to cover for Macca

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 22:42
And how is it assessed they are good enough (or not as the case may be) if they don't play. Training is one thing, playing in a competitive match is a different ball game. Playing in a match in training against your teammates is no substitute for the real thing. Gumbs has certainly looked good enough when he has played. In my playing time and watching my three sons with their various teams, there are players who look the business in training, but couldn't replicate this in competitive games. Vice versa, there were players who were anonymous in training, but consistently rose to the occasion in a match situation. Judgement has to be balanced on the two aspects. Clarke may not have had his opportunity if fate hadn't played its hand; luck rather than judgement might be applied. No doubt, we all have differing opinions on who our best team would be, which is the beauty of football and forums. I don't buy into the bury the head in the sand, trust the manager regardless, permanently positive, Teflon Tranmere outlook. I'm generally positive, forgiving, accepting, sometimes even doe-eyed when it comes to TRFC, but I do occasionally allow myself to think WTF when I don't like what I see. Now, how did I get here? (Some of you are probably thinking WTF right now!(Sm145))

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
30 January, 2018 22:59
Managers making signings should always be seen right about any player until an extended run in the team proves the player wrong, then the manager is wrong.

Otherwise you create the notion that managers sign players on the understanding that they the manager know the player is poor and will offer little and that is never the thinking of any manager barring one who might have completely lost the plot.

For any manager who signings mostly players who prove to be good, there will e one or two neither here nor there ones and even managers who's recruitment is flaky, will get one or two decent players.

No recruitment drive consisting of around 6-10 players will be seen as flawless or totally abysmal. There is no black and white, but there will always be the bit in the middle in all it's shades of grey.

If Mellon signs Ellis on prior understanding of him, the fine, I'll accept it, but if the guy is a total honker then he'll prove himself given enough games.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
MoanerLesser
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 00:07
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And how is it assessed they are good enough (or not as the case may be) if they don't play. Training is one thing, playing in a competitive match is a different ball game. Playing in a match in training against your teammates is no substitute for the real thing. Gumbs has certainly looked good enough when he has played. In my playing time and watching my three sons with their various teams, there are players who look the business in training, but couldn't replicate this in competitive games. Vice versa, there were players who were anonymous in training, but consistently rose to the occasion in a match situation. Judgement has to be balanced on the two aspects. Clarke may not have had his opportunity if fate hadn't played its hand; luck rather than judgement might be applied. No doubt, we all have differing opinions on who our best team would be, which is the beauty of football and forums. I don't buy into the bury the head in the sand, trust the manager regardless, permanently positive, Teflon Tranmere outlook. I'm generally positive, forgiving, accepting, sometimes even doe-eyed when it comes to TRFC, but I do occasionally allow myself to think WTF when I don't like what I see. Now, how did I get here? (Some of you are probably thinking WTF right now!(Sm145))



so you are saying that Gumbs could be played with McNulty rather than as his replacement?

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 07:55
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And how is it assessed they are good enough (or not as the case may be) if they don't play. Training is one thing, playing in a competitive match is a different ball game. Playing in a match in training against your teammates is no substitute for the real thing. Gumbs has certainly looked good enough when he has played. In my playing time and watching my three sons with their various teams, there are players who look the business in training, but couldn't replicate this in competitive games. Vice versa, there were players who were anonymous in training, but consistently rose to the occasion in a match situation. Judgement has to be balanced on the two aspects. Clarke may not have had his opportunity if fate hadn't played its hand; luck rather than judgement might be applied. No doubt, we all have differing opinions on who our best team would be, which is the beauty of football and forums. I don't buy into the bury the head in the sand, trust the manager regardless, permanently positive, Teflon Tranmere outlook. I'm generally positive, forgiving, accepting, sometimes even doe-eyed when it comes to TRFC, but I do occasionally allow myself to think WTF when I don't like what I see. Now, how did I get here? (Some of you are probably thinking WTF right now!(Sm145))



so you are saying that Gumbs could be played with McNulty rather than as his replacement?

I'm challenging an earlier assertion that Gumbs is not good enough. I'd be comfortable slotting him in for McNulty or Sutton if the need arises, based on his appearances so far. I don't see the need to look elsewhere, if indeed that is the case (possibly just speculation). To the tune of that old John Lennon classic, "All we are saying, is give youth a chance"

 
MoanerLesser
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 11:52
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And how is it assessed they are good enough (or not as the case may be) if they don't play. Training is one thing, playing in a competitive match is a different ball game. Playing in a match in training against your teammates is no substitute for the real thing. Gumbs has certainly looked good enough when he has played. In my playing time and watching my three sons with their various teams, there are players who look the business in training, but couldn't replicate this in competitive games. Vice versa, there were players who were anonymous in training, but consistently rose to the occasion in a match situation. Judgement has to be balanced on the two aspects. Clarke may not have had his opportunity if fate hadn't played its hand; luck rather than judgement might be applied. No doubt, we all have differing opinions on who our best team would be, which is the beauty of football and forums. I don't buy into the bury the head in the sand, trust the manager regardless, permanently positive, Teflon Tranmere outlook. I'm generally positive, forgiving, accepting, sometimes even doe-eyed when it comes to TRFC, but I do occasionally allow myself to think WTF when I don't like what I see. Now, how did I get here? (Some of you are probably thinking WTF right now!(Sm145))



so you are saying that Gumbs could be played with McNulty rather than as his replacement?

I'm challenging an earlier assertion that Gumbs is not good enough. I'd be comfortable slotting him in for McNulty or Sutton if the need arises, based on his appearances so far. I don't see the need to look elsewhere, if indeed that is the case (possibly just speculation). To the tune of that old John Lennon classic, "All we are saying, is give youth a chance"

I have thought Gumbs always played well when he has been in the team. It just seems that he is seen as a like-for-like replacement for McNulty by De Management

 
WWStandsure
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 11:52
Several of MM's known players have NOT turned out to be able to do the business here (several years on from when they were apparently 'good'), so MM's selections are open for criticism. Saying that IF McAlevey, Alibi and Mangan ('The Mates'),all depart that would leave a very strong side at PP, still I can understand looking for a Center back (with height), it's one of the few areas Rovers could do with a bit more cover, otherwise with returning players (from injury etc), it seems there is a positive around right now, I feel after the Macc it game will be more noticeable then (noting fixtures for all the promotion hopefulls), in how the run in will go.

 
DevonExile
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 12:28
Neither Duggan or Gumbs deserve the categorisation of giving youth a chance.They are both young but no longer Youth players and their debuts were made some time back. My issue is that both are more than good enough as cover and could get better.For that reason I never understood the signing of McEverly and the same would now apply if Ellis was signed.
I get the argument that the management see them daily but on that basis if they are not seen as adequate cover why were they retained,I assume it was because they were seen as good enough.
Drysdale is a different issue he is young enough that he could be seen as still developing rather than as cover.His lack of involvement,however even as part of the bench suggests that management has either written him off or they do not have a strategy for testing and developing emerging talent.
I agree with the earlier posting that Clarke's emergence was down to chance without which there is every chance that he would still be going unnoticed.As for the argument that these players are not good enough for div 2 that holds true for many regulars some of whom are past the stage that they will improve,

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 13:27
Sorry but I just don't get why Drysdale keeps getting mentioned. Just because an internet rumour suggested that a league club was looking at him doesn't mean he's worth a place in the first team squad. League clubs look at kids of all ages and routinely hoover them up, but it doesn't mean they're anywhere near ready for first team football.

Our defence has been one of our biggest strengths in this league but, if it does need strengthening for the run in for whatever reason, now is definitely not the time to throw a non-contract youth-teamer in, unless he's the real deal. Obviously he isn't, not yet anyway.

As for the argument that Pilling plays for Wales kids therefore he's ready for our first team, well just remember some of the slaughterings another Welsh international keeper routinely took on here when he played for us not that long ago.

 
DevonExile
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 15:05
Drysdale was contrasted with Gumbs and Duggan both of whom fall in a different category, The point is that they provide adequate cover

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 17:13
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Sorry but I just don't get why Drysdale keeps getting mentioned. Just because an internet rumour suggested that a league club was looking at him doesn't mean he's worth a place in the first team squad. League clubs look at kids of all ages and routinely hoover them up, but it doesn't mean they're anywhere near ready for first team football.
Our defence has been one of our biggest strengths in this league but, if it does need strengthening for the run in for whatever reason, now is definitely not the time to throw a non-contract youth-teamer in, unless he's the real deal. Obviously he isn't, not yet anyway.

As for the argument that Pilling plays for Wales kids therefore he's ready for our first team, well just remember some of the slaughterings another Welsh international keeper routinely took on here when he played for us not that long ago.
Why Drysdale is mentioned is if the rumours were true and Championship clubs are looking at him with view to signing him and it happens you could argue he is at a similar level to say DMH who has only made one subs appearance for Barnsley and who has now gone out on loan again to Chesterfield! Also as noted on here elsewhere Clarke was in training every day with MM but only got a start when Ridelagh was injured so I am not sure you can really say MM will always pick the youngsters if they are good enough.
The frustration re Pilling is that he is being paid a salary but obviously isn't considered to be good enough so why then give him a new contract if he is not genuinely there to compete for a place. Also once having decided Pilling was not going to play why isn't Pilling being loaned out and getting senior game time rather than sit on the bench whilst also getting at least a bit of loan income? Baffling to me.

 
MoanerLesser
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 17:13
he will probably go to Wigan

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 17:45
"If the rumours were true"... But almost a year later nobody has signed Drysdale and he is still a non-contact player with a non-league club. By contrast, DMH (who's also a few years older) was into an 18 month deal with a Championship club when he came to us. No comparison.

Clarke's defensive weaknesses are already noticeable. I expect he'll improve that aspect of his game very quickly but again it does kind of explain why he had to wait for his chance at full back.

Pilling only progressed from number 3 to number 2 six months ago so again it'd be understandable if the management feel he's not yet ready to be number 1 for a prolonged spell. If Davies had only been out for two or three games, he might well have been thrown in. I agree a loan spell would probably help his development, though I don't know if Warrington need a keeper right now ;-)

I'm certainly not knocking any of these lads, btw. I just feel the desire we all have for our youngsters to break through sometimes allows hearts to rule heads. If we don't go up this season with many senior players approaching the end of their contracts, they may well have a far bigger role next season. Bottom line, though, is the club does have a record of good judgment over many years on things like this.

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 18:45
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Neither Duggan or Gumbs deserve the categorisation of giving youth a chance.They are both young but no longer Youth players and their debuts were made some time back. My issue is that both are more than good enough as cover and could get better.For that reason I never understood the signing of McEverly and the same would now apply if Ellis was signed.
I get the argument that the management see them daily but on that basis if they are not seen as adequate cover why were they retained,I assume it was because they were seen as good enough.
Drysdale is a different issue he is young enough that he could be seen as still developing rather than as cover.His lack of involvement,however even as part of the bench suggests that management has either written him off or they do not have a strategy for testing and developing emerging talent.
I agree with the earlier posting that Clarke's emergence was down to chance without which there is every chance that he would still be going unnoticed.As for the argument that these players are not good enough for div 2 that holds true for many regulars some of whom are past the stage that they will improve,

I'm heading towards that stage of my life that anyone under 30 I'd class as youth! smiling smiley

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 19:58
Fair points aldosmuzzy!! That's me toldsmiling smiley
Just I would hate we lose our youngsters for nothing plus personally I feel MM is overly cautious and despite what he states in press conferences he doesn't give youth a fair chance. Signing McE for instance when he had Gumbs and Duggan already was I think unnecessary and that is even before he turned out to be rubbish.

 
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 20:46
I think when we are under massive pressure to get promotion from up top. Then using proven players makes sense, and I can see why we can afford to risk a first team made up of the youth squad. Players like Tollit and Clarke etc... have been given a chance due to injuries with the first and took the chance well and performed. However I guess with Pilling the risk really is quite high. As if he has a nervous game and we lose 6-0 or something, his confidence is screwed and possibly our promotion hopes. So I can understand it.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 21:12
The problem with a club like ours, when is the pressure off? Since I've been following Rovers it's always been like a pressure cooker. Whether we're fighting for promotion or play-off places, mid-table with expectations to climb the table or fighting relegation. There never seems to be an ideal lull to experiment; an exception being Maidstone last season and it worked. "The policy of being too cautious is the greatest risk of all". If you compare us to whisky, we're not the quality of a single malt, but more of a blended whisky where the quality is not noticeably affected by the age of the individual components. And I've not had a dram tonight!

 
Cybertron
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Re: Mark Ellis
31 January, 2018 22:52
with regard to youth, I know its a 'life-time' ago, and the players were very different, but look at the ages of the Play-off winning team against Bolton.


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