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James Alabi
08 January, 2018 22:20
Dover hav extended James Alabi’s loan until the end of the season.

That’s a real shock, I didn’t see that coming......

 
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Re: James Alabi
08 January, 2018 22:54
Guess we could expect more coming in for us then...

 
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Re: James Alabi
08 January, 2018 23:05
I’m not sure. Mangan isn’t on loan any more so I guess he’s an option.....

 
bheadlad
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Re: James Alabi
09 January, 2018 00:18
At least he should be ready for next year 😆.
The deal with Chester was never sorted out and maybe we should just hand him back to them or give them a chance to take over his registration

 
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Re: James Alabi
09 January, 2018 10:43
Dover's manager Roy Kinnear must see something in Alabi then. It seems strange that they have extended his loan period given that he has only scored once for them. In a way, Rovers have got the best of both worlds as he is off our payroll, and hopefully, if he comes good we have the option to recall him.

 
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Re: James Alabi
09 January, 2018 11:25
Will he be allowed to play against us when we meet Dover at the end of March? Or is there usually something in the loan deal saying he can't play against us? Just wondering ...

 
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Re: James Alabi
09 January, 2018 16:46
Alabi must be doing something right if Dover want to keep him?

Dover are no mugs and unless they've got his services for free then I can see no reason for them wanting to keep him there?

Maybe he's doing a lot of donkey work and allowing others to get space in and around the box? He's certainly not banging in many goals for them.

My concern is Jennings and Clarke going, but I believe Clarke will remain here on loan until the end of the season.

 
mini_andy
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Re: James Alabi
09 January, 2018 20:23
The loan hasn’t been extended, it was reported by Dover as being until the end of the season when he signed. Their has been no announcement from either club about it, I just read the one line on the report about our loan players on the official site.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 01:07
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Will he be allowed to play against us when we meet Dover at the end of March? Or is there usually something in the loan deal saying he can't play against us? Just wondering ...

Such stipulations can be made but they are not mandatory, so if the player has no such stipulation inserted into the loan agreement, then playing against the parent club cannot be prevented apart from suspension, injury, custodial sentencing, termination of the loan prior to said game, or if there is a recall clause and it's activated.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 06:51
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mini_andy
The loan hasn’t been extended, it was reported by Dover as being until the end of the season when he signed. Their has been no announcement from either club about it, I just read the one line on the report about our loan players on the official site.
Correct Andy I remember that Dover quoted year end - from our side we said January which was commented on at the time as to why the difference? ... the one line in our press news said Alabi had extended his loan rather than we had extended the loan which makes me wonder whether the only discrepancy was between the two was if Alabi only agreed to go out on loan to Dover for the whole season if he had the option to return in January? Might be overthinking too much on that one mind you with all this "fake news" appearing everywhere in the presssmiling smiley Either way at least this season his wage bill is at least partially covered which helps.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 08:24
Great news .Ebbsfleet have agreed with TRFC and Alabi to sign him on a permanent basis .Wonder what they will pay us ? We can then pay Chester what we owe them

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 08:24
Great news .Ebbsfleet have agreed with TRFC and Alabi to sign him on a permanent basis .Wonder what they will pay us ? We can then pay Chester what we owe them

 
mini_andy
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 09:23
Just seen that. Another one off the books. It’s like a mass clearout!

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 09:51
[quote mini_andy]Just seen that. Another one off the books. It’s like a mass clearout![/quote


Looks like we're getting ready to bring new blood new or we're broke and are heading for a downfall on the financial front.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 10:13
Alabi never set the world alight at Dover and and now we have a 3rd GK wages to pay for my guess is that Alabis name was passed around the NL clubs to see if anyone wanted him to get him off the books. I think this benefits Dover too as he has been as rubbish for them as he was for us. He is one of the most timid players I have ever seen wear a TRFC shirt and there really is no room for that in this league.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 17:37
Good luck to the lad, played in the wrong role for me when he was played.

Hopefully he'll find some form from somewhere (just aslong as it's not in an away shirt at PP).

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 18:08
Did alabi get much of a chance at rovers i dont think so and whats happend to george waring ?

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 18:13
Heard we’ve agreed terms with Ebbsfleet for him, it’s being held up as we have yet to play Chester, should go through by end of today/tomorrow



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2018 18:18 by Higgosboots.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 18:42
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Did alabi get much of a chance at rovers i dont think so and whats happend to george waring ?

Have to agree re: Alabi. Remind me how many minutes he played for us before the hangman's noose was drawn.

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 18:48
We play Ebbsfleet at Home 3rd March, sods law he will score.

 
DevonExile
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 19:24
From the first game against Torquay he looked dire and he did not last long in the Dover first team. His relatively low time spent on the pitch was because his contribution when playing was zero.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 19:39
Thought Alabi played okay at Bromley. Waring remains a complete mystery. Whether players, including them, weren't good enough or weren't given a fair chance, there have been far too many players in and out this season. Our summer recruitment was shambolic.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 19:52
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Thought Alabi played okay at Bromley. Waring remains a complete mystery. Whether players, including them, weren't good enough or weren't given a fair chance, there have been far too many players in and out this season. Our summer recruitment was shambolic.
+1

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 20:35
Not sure how true this is but apparently Chester value him around £70k and us around £15k, still awaiting FA tribune as we couldn’t agree common ground.

 
martyd12
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 20:44
Why has the tribunal taken so long to make a decision? it is hardly fair on either side!

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 20:50
What an utter waste of time our summer signings have been.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 21:07
I guess at our level and the lack of money involved then you really are sieving through the mother of rivers of silt to find the smallest of Gold nuggets. Now and again you get a few fat or odd shaped ones if your lucky though. Like Buxton or Cook.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 21:32
Club's with smaller budget's than us manage to find good player's

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 21:43
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Club's with smaller budget's than us manage to find good player's

They must know where to look.

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 22:46
Alabi could be on his way to Ebbsfleet [c.newsnow.co.uk]

 
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Re: James Alabi
10 January, 2018 23:06
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Why has the tribunal taken so long to make a decision? it is hardly fair on either side!

How would this work out?

Ebbsfleet: how much do you want for Alabi?
Us: ermmmmm not sure, we need to pay for him yet, so that willl dictate what we want to sell him for.......
Ebbsfleet: ok, how about £15k? We want to move quickly.
Us: sure, done deal!

1 week later:
Tribunal: Tranmere, you must pay Chester £30k plus a 10% sell on.
Us: oh @#$%&, it’s like Wirral live all over again!

 
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Re: James Alabi
11 January, 2018 17:05
Alabi not going to eggsfeet they can't afford him apprantly

 
DevonExile
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Re: James Alabi
11 January, 2018 19:04
That's a pity because nor can we. At any price he is a waste of Money. Coleman is a good judge of talent and he let him go from Accrington

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: James Alabi
11 January, 2018 19:33
Didn't know he had been at Accrington before Chester.

John Coleman is generally a good judge of players, he has had to be over the years.

 
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Re: James Alabi
11 January, 2018 20:14
To be fair to him he does have talent but only when playing for a weaker team that has to try to hit on the break.

Going forward with the ball at his feet he looked dangerous in his glimpses for us.

Back to goal and trying to hold and play others in he couldn't trap a bag of sand.

Can't we introduce to Ebbsfleet people to the Chester people and pretend it never happened?

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: James Alabi
11 January, 2018 21:46
Dover have been playing him out wide on the right apparently so no wonder it hasn't worked out for him. Ebbsfleet want to play him up front so you can see why the move is being talked about. I think he's got ability in him but doubt we'll ever see it in a Rovers shirt.

 
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Re: James Alabi
12 January, 2018 00:00
Nobody scores 17 goals in a season by being a total pranny, but for some it has to be the right set of circumstances, or it doesn't pan out as you'd hope.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
martyd12
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 18:15
So what is he up to now? He tries to get a contract with Ebbsfleet without Dover's knowledge and then goes absent from training? At this rate he will be back with us with neither Kent club wanting him.
I feel sorry for the lad and shows the difficulties when there has been no resolution by the tribunal!

 
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 18:33
Prob should give him another go here with Cook out..

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 18:53
Waring IMO deserves a chance first.

Could anyone confirm is Cooky missing just the Maidenhead game?

 
martyd12
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 19:04
It should be just the one match as it is 2 yellow cards and not a straight red!

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 19:16
Not convinced that either Waring or Alabi are the answer but, to be fair to them, they've only ever played for us when we were creating nothing for the forwards. Waring would probably be the better prepared of the two to step back in - he's match fit and, like Cookie, is a target man so wouldn't disrupt the approach of the team too much.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 20:00
Not good enough, I’d go with Cole or Kirby up top for the next game.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 20:35
You may be right that they're not good enough but Cole and Kirby aren't strikers. Cole seemed to do a hamstring yesterday as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Ginnelly started on the right wing next week, which might mean Waring coming in as a target man.

 
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 20:57
connor jennings upfront with ginnelly on wing thats what id go for

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 21:13
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You may be right that they're not good enough but Cole and Kirby aren't strikers. Cole seemed to do a hamstring yesterday as well. Wouldn't be surprised if Ginnelly started on the right wing next week, which might mean Waring coming in as a target man.

Kirby is the best natural goalscorer at the club.

 
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Re: James Alabi
14 January, 2018 22:06
To end all speculation one way or the other you think the club would give an update on the latest news.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 09:23
[www.kentonline.co.uk]

I have to say it’s all a bit emabarrasing and un-professional on our part, Kinnear saying Alabi is no longer their player, Mickey saying that he is still a Dover player, Ebbsfleet releasing a comment he’s a done deal.

If we’ve entered into dialogue with Ebbsfleet, Dover should have been told the minute an offer was made and before we responded. Micky would be in uproar if we had a player in season long loan only to have him not turn up for training one day and be seen up the road at Wrexham.

We haven’t even paid for the fella yet, again imagine the uproar in a reverse scenario. Yes money may be short but likewise for Chester, Palios needs to pick the phone up and sort out a deal for Alabi this week IMO.

I do think we have a superior attitude towards this league, despite the fact at no point have we set the place on fire.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 15/01/2018 09:25 by Higgosboots.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 10:13
There's nothing at all in that link to suggest we're unprofessional and have a superior attitude. There's clearly been crossed wires and communication breakdowns somewhere down the line but let's wait and see the facts before we start using it as yet another excuse to needlessly slag off our club.

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 11:35
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There's nothing at all in that link to suggest we're unprofessional and have a superior attitude. There's clearly been crossed wires and communication breakdowns somewhere down the line but let's wait and see the facts before we start using it as yet another excuse to needlessly slag off our club.

What about Dover being unaware of the approach?

 
DevonExile
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 14:05
Crossed wire equals cock up on our part as the club holding his registration. On the other hand Dover may have needed very little reason to happily send him back. He has been a poor signing and I do not see that changing. If our budget is as bad as some suggest every two year contract that was a mistake ends up being a lot to carry. We have quite a few of those on our books

 
bheadlad
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 15:42
What quite a few are you referring to Devonexile?

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 16:59
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Crossed wire equals cock up on our part as the club holding his registration.

That's a massive leap and one which can easily be wrong. Ebbsfleet jump the gun announcing the imminent transfer - Tranmere's fault? Player doesn't turn up for work at Dover - Tranmere's fault? Etc etc. In these kind of situations there's often an agent or advisor muddying the waters somewhere but let's just wait and hear the facts before automatically donning the sackcloth and ashes.

But this has been an odd one ever since we first shifted him out just months after signing him, then the uncertainty over where it was for the season (Dover's words) or January (our words), and the tribunal still not setting a fee (how long can it take??).

Either way, the lad himself seems in a far worse position now than when he decided to leave Chester, and hopefully there'll be an outcome very soon that suits all parties.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: James Alabi
15 January, 2018 19:33
Did he turn up here for training today? Or Dover? Or Ebbsfleet? Or did he not bother or throw in a triple sickie?

 
Higgosboots
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Re: James Alabi
16 January, 2018 07:59
He was obviously shipped out in an attempt to reduce the compensation we would have to pay.


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