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Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 11:34
If New Years Day is to be a blip, then I think we probably need to win today. Whereas a defeat could start to unpick the recent good run that we are on.

I do think that the Fylde game was a bit of a perfect storm for us as a dodgy pitch, rubbish weather, a good opposition looking to get their own back and the fourth game of a busy Christmas period all conspired to create the defeat. The players were not at the level they should have been and have publically apologised so hopefully it won't happen again.

The recent good run definitely got people talking about us again so maybe a little bit of complacency crept in so to hear the response of the players was a good thing, and it may help as a bit of a wake up call.

All away games are tough and today will be as well but we should be confident of winning. Injury and loanees going back to parent clubs would ruin every other squad in the league but our strength in depth should now help us.

We have a good enough squad now to win this league and returning injured players/loan signings will only make us stronger.

Let's focus on beating Barrow today and getting the show back on the road.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2018 23:34 by mini_andy.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 12:03
I see Wharton is playing for the youth today so a new keeper must be coming in...
Banks going back to Oldham will be a big blow... would like to see Kirby back if he is fully fit. Think it will be a scrappy game but hopefully we will return to winning ways despite the enforced changes.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 12:11
Need to start winning away from home. If we fail to win today then will it be a case of our away form becoming an issue or it being an issue? Only 3 away wins so far this season in the NL and 2 of those wins were on the plastic.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 12:50
Hoping for a win but happy with a draw against an improving Barrow.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 13:00
It’s a nice day for football, which normally suits us. Going for. 2-0 SWA win.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 14:18
Nice weather back home, am currently watching the Fleetwood v Leicester FA cup tie. They call it the magic of the FA cup but this game is desperately dire. No Vardy in the Leicester team today against his former club. 0-0 with 15 mins remaining.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 15:04
bloody hell 1 down already

 
the kav
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 15:09
Mcnulty again

 
Viking Tranmere
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 15:53
Lucky not to be 2 down, they've just hit the bar.
Amateur performance so far.
They've marked out Cook leaving Norwood free - to miss!

Still Micky will sort it!

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 16:04
Harris and Hughes are not good enough

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 16:32
Buxton getting stretchered off, doesn't sound good

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 16:52
yess Nors equalizer cmon Rovers 6 mins to get a winner

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:01
1-1 sounded like Jennings had a chance right at the death. seems as if we had enough chances to have won it. Macc only got a draw.

 
the kav
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:03
Sutton and shots won though. There are rumours waddock is leaving aldershot for a league club

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:12
Missed game and had to listen on wireless. Didn't sound to good. We a now in 7th or you could say joint 9th. Glass half full sorry. Loosing a couple of player seems like we have taken 3 steps back. Would not slag anyone, just bad luck with injuries and flipping loan recalls again.
We need a bit of luck and it's only a bit, because since are garbage start to the season, we have turn one hell of a corner.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:12
Rubbish today, created nothing. Bored.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:13
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Sutton and shots won though. There are rumours waddock is leaving aldershot for a league club

any idea who waddock is being linked with kav?

 
jonesy792
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 17:48
Same old problem is back : lack of pace and width.

 
mb53trfc
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06 January, 2018 19:49
One disappointment followed by another. We seem to be back to treading water. One point off two teams who were in the bottom half of the table isn't going to win this league.

Wasn't at the game today but sounded like Norwood had opportunities to score and didn't.

We definitely miss the width and pace of DMH. With DMH and Banks in the team we had a glimpse of what it would take to survive in League Two. Now its back to Micky shuffling the pack and my optimism is dented.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 19:55
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One disappointment followed by another. We seem to be back to treading water. One point off two teams who were in the bottom half of the table isn't going to win this league.
Wasn't at the game today but sounded like Norwood had opportunities to score and didn't.

We definitely miss the width and pace of DMH. With DMH and Banks in the team we had a glimpse of what it would take to survive in League Two. Now its back to Micky shuffling the pack and my optimism is dented.

I went today, and unless we get midlfield reinforcements we are going nowhere.

 
Hoots Mon
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06 January, 2018 20:37
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One disappointment followed by another. We seem to be back to treading water. One point off two teams who were in the bottom half of the table isn't going to win this league.
Wasn't at the game today but sounded like Norwood had opportunities to score and didn't.

We definitely miss the width and pace of DMH. With DMH and Banks in the team we had a glimpse of what it would take to survive in League Two. Now its back to Micky shuffling the pack and my optimism is dented.

I went today, and unless we get midlfield reinforcements we are going nowhere.

+1 Yes Harris was poor and Hughes was worse. Don't even start me on Mr ''won't challenge for the ball in the air but will wait till it lands'' Cole

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 20:39
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One disappointment followed by another. We seem to be back to treading water. One point off two teams who were in the bottom half of the table isn't going to win this league.
Wasn't at the game today but sounded like Norwood had opportunities to score and didn't.

We definitely miss the width and pace of DMH. With DMH and Banks in the team we had a glimpse of what it would take to survive in League Two. Now its back to Micky shuffling the pack and my optimism is dented.

Yes he did. But the worrying thing is that hardly anyone else did.Apart from a Sutton header and a Cole blaze over the bar,nobody else looked remotely like scoring.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 20:41
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Hoping for a win but happy with a draw against an improving Barrow.

Barrow were appalling but in the few minutes after our equaliser,they should have won due to our defences' inadequacies.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 20:42
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1-1 sounded like Jennings had a chance right at the death. seems as if we had enough chances to have won it. Macc only got a draw.

They were far more likely to score in the last few hectic minutes.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 21:07
That was because we changed to 3-4-3 to try and snatch the win - risky but it could have worked.

 
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06 January, 2018 21:22
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That was because we changed to 3-4-3 to try and snatch the win - risky but it could have worked.


Gumbs should have been on for Buxton instead of Ridehalgh.

 
chrisprover
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 21:33
Its still a point and I would also like to see gumbs playing as I went to the barrow game and DMH was having problems on the right as soon as gumbs came on he sorted it I think a very good player and we should now be using him, its time for Mickey to shuffle the team or get us a decent winger in as we cant afford to wait for tollit.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 22:01
Without the width/pace DMH provided and quality of Banks in midfield we are back to the same side that saw us languishing in lower mid table earlier in the season.

Now these two have gone back he needs to address the problem again (pace out wide and quality/presence in midfield) as we won’t go up with the current squad.

No point relying on Tollitt, Kirkby, Wallace, Dunn, Managan coming back into the squad as it’s already proved they either aren’t good enough or can’t be relied on to stay injury free.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 22:41
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One disappointment followed by another. We seem to be back to treading water. One point off two teams who were in the bottom half of the table isn't going to win this league.
Wasn't at the game today but sounded like Norwood had opportunities to score and didn't.

We definitely miss the width and pace of DMH. With DMH and Banks in the team we had a glimpse of what it would take to survive in League Two. Now its back to Micky shuffling the pack and my optimism is dented.

Yes he did. But the worrying thing is that hardly anyone else did.Apart from a Sutton header and a Cole blaze over the bar,nobody else looked remotely like scoring.

Norwood has many plus points, his work rate is fantastic and he does score goals. He gives everything for the shirt and I appreciate that. We pose more threat with him in the team. I do wonder what they do in training though to improve his chances when he is bearing in on goal.

Interesting to note that Wirral Radio were of the opinion that Gumbs should have been the natural replacement for Buxton. I would agree, plus involving the younger home grown talent should be a priority. Ihekwie had a spell at full back before becoming a regular at CB.

Hope Buxton is OK. Sounded a nasty injury. We can't afford to lose any more players.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
06 January, 2018 22:48
Not an ideal result, but given the alterations needed to goal and midfield in a short space of time, this kind of result was always going to be a a bit more likely than if this game had been played 2 weeks ago.

Top spot is not an impossibility, but the playoffs will need to be a more realistic aim now and it certainly is a realistic aim.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
the kav
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 09:12
No hkr, mate at Yorkshire evening post just said he is mulling it over. How he got it and not a southern paper i dont know. It was a passing comment in a conversation really mate

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 10:06
Adam Mekki should never have been released, may not have been a Johnny Morrisey but he had pace and got at people, why we would release him and sign Rokka, and Davarne Green to never play I'd beyond me. I hope the experiments with lower league players have been knocked on the head, we've signed 3 now and none have worked out.

 
DevonExile
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07 January, 2018 10:15
Whilst I agree that we lack a wide player Mekki overall contribution was never impressive. It was not releasing him that was wrong but failing to replace with better. That hols true in other positions and the return of loan players serves only as a reminder of how badly we recruited in the summer.
The failure to bring on Gumbs is also indicative of a tendency to go for the inadequate but experienced. The return of those we have loaned out only takes the squad backwards

 
Higgosboots
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07 January, 2018 10:42
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Whilst I agree that we lack a wide player Mekki overall contribution was never impressive. It was not releasing him that was wrong but failing to replace with better. That hols true in other positions and the return of loan players serves only as a reminder of how badly we recruited in the summer.
The failure to bring on Gumbs is also indicative of a tendency to go for the inadequate but experienced. The return of those we have loaned out only takes the squad backwards

He wasn't the best as I say but better than what we have recruited, which highlights a weakness in the club I think, and the we shouldn't be releasing players unless we have identified and secured their improved replacement. Te club seem happy to take a gamble as opposed to make improvements. I get the restriction in budgets but shouldn't this make all the more important to have a sound scouting network in force, and ultimately it would save the client b more ey in the long run to spend a little more on the recruitment and a little more in wages to secure a player who brings the right quality and fits the managers brief. The likes of Banks were outtheir I think the summer and it makes me wonder that we only find the likes of him and Dmh by chance as opposed to identifying them. The constant summer in and outs and loanees are what got us to the NL in the first place unless we change that we won't get out. Clubs survived e much higher up the league pyramid than us on smaller budgets and that's because they have an ethos and they know what they are looking for.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 11:24
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The failure to bring on Gumbs is also indicative of a tendency to go for the inadequate but experienced. The return of those we have loaned out only takes the squad backwards
The constant summer in and outs and loanees are what got us to the NL in the first place unless we change that we won't get out. Clubs survived e much higher up the league pyramid than us on smaller budgets and that's because they have an ethos and they know what they are looking for.
Correct - there is no ethos as you say unless to sign experienced players found wanting. MM recruitment has been awful consider - Dawson (yes he signed him!), Mangan, Alabi, Waring, McEverley, Green, Cole, Rokka and I would include Wallace who was always a very risky gamble. Worse some were signed on 2 year contracts for heaven's sake so we will forking out money we don't have next season as well which already puts us at a disadvantage whatever League we are in. Ok bring in one "shop in potential" signing which may not pan out but that should be it. The others should deliver and they patently didn't so MP has been forced to find money to allow MM into the loan market wasting even more money to try and prop up these bad decisions.
Meanwhile he ignores our young homegrown players like the plague unless forced into it as even Clarke who arguably also had a fair bit to do with our purple patch would never have been given a start IMO if Ridelagh had stayed fit.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 12:04
In the cold light of day I would have settled for the point beforehand especially, after the Fylde drubbing.

Listening on the radio, we had a number of chances to win the game without relying on a 93 minute equaliser.

More of a concern and posted elsewhere is our away form which, has been pretty poor in comparison to the last two seasons currently P14 W3 D6 L5.I remain confident our home form will look after itself but cannot say the same for away form.

The loss of Ollie B and DMH has/will affect the team performance but defensively, despite only conceding 26 goals, we look suspect mainly due to our general lack of pace which was never redressed after Michael Ihekwe's departure.

I just hope this "blip" is temporary otherwise we will struggle to maintain a playoff position at best.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 12:09
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The failure to bring on Gumbs is also indicative of a tendency to go for the inadequate but experienced. The return of those we have loaned out only takes the squad backwards
The constant summer in and outs and loanees are what got us to the NL in the first place unless we change that we won't get out. Clubs survived e much higher up the league pyramid than us on smaller budgets and that's because they have an ethos and they know what they are looking for.
Correct - there is no ethos as you say unless to sign experienced players found wanting. MM recruitment has been awful consider - Dawson (yes he signed him!), Mangan, Alabi, Waring, McEverley, Green, Cole, Rokka and I would include Wallace who was always a very risky gamble. Worse some were signed on 2 year contracts for heaven's sake so we will forking out money we don't have next season as well which already puts us at a disadvantage whatever League we are in. Ok bring in one "shop in potential" signing which may not pan out but that should be it. The others should deliver and they patently didn't so MP has been forced to find money to allow MM into the loan market wasting even more money to try and prop up these bad decisions.
Meanwhile he ignores our young homegrown players like the plague unless forced into it as even Clarke who arguably also had a fair bit to do with our purple patch would never have been given a start IMO if Ridelagh had stayed fit.

That assumes that MM is responsible for signing players, which none of us actually know, and as I understand it MM isn't responsible for signings at the club which would be backed up by the signing of Almond in between managers. Apparently MM and MP have had talks over this earlier in the season due to our poor form where MM requested to sign players of his choice leading to the arrival of DMH and Banks.

 
Aldo'smuzzy
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 15:09
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The likes of Banks were outtheir I think the summer and it makes me wonder that we only find the likes of him and Dmh by chance as opposed to identifying them. The constant summer in and outs and loanees are what got us to the NL in the first place unless we change that we won't get out. Clubs survived e much higher up the league pyramid than us on smaller budgets and that's because they have an ethos and they know what they are looking for.


The availability of players in the loan market only really starts in September/October rather than the summer. I doubt Banks or DMH would have been available in the summer, same with the players we've farmed out in recent seasons.

Incidentally, Warrington boss Paul Carden mentioned in the press yesterday that he'd been after Devarn Green from us for a while but he hadn't been available. By all accounts the lad had a decent debut yesterday and Steve Jenno, on loan from Southport, scored Warrington's winner - a penalty!



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 16:39
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I hope the experiments with lower league players have been knocked on the head, we've signed 3 now and none have worked out.

Yet clubs like Dagenham, Fleetwood and Swindon experiment with non-league players and look at those three players, they've ended up playing Premier League and one played several times for England.

This is the kind of thinking Tranmere should have gone for years ago and but for Tiryaki, in the last 10 years very little non-league exploration was utilised.

There is no solid evidence that Rokka and Green don't work in the first team, as they haven't played and it obviously is not the right time if there ever will be one, but the argument for them is just as valid as Premier league clubs signing league 1 and 2 players and not giving them a sniff for the first 12 months.

Sometimes signings are done not for immediate effect, but to preempt capability, by seeing someone who might progress well, but would do it better at your club with your facilities, so you're attempting to fast track their progress whilst not having to wait another 12 months, possibly miss out and even if not missing out, pay another 30%+ on the transfer fee, when the player has more games and clean sheets / assists / goals to their name.

I'd rather Tranmere signed a 19 year old from a club with 200-300 fans, that was for example a midfielder with something like 20 games, 2 goals and 4 assists, than hope he might still be available in 12 months, when he's had around 50 games 6 goals and 12 assists and costs possibly as much as double or more, because sometimes when you snooze you lose.

Besides if it's not working you're paying them below top 30% wages, so you loan them out, get a good chunk of the future expenditure back and bin them for a cheap payoff if needs be.

compared to the kind of monies recouped for Cresswell's sell-on and Ash Taylors sale value; as examples, even if Tranmere had to bin Rokka and Green for a small amount, they'd still be in credit, big time.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
HardlyYardley
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
07 January, 2018 19:02
We started the season badly because we played wth no pace and no creativity. We improved greatly when we played with more pace and creativity. It looks like we may slide backwards because we've started playing with less pace and creativity. It was known in the summer that Wallace, Tollit (and Kirby) would be out for quite a while and there was no guarantee of if or when they'd return to full form and fitness. Who were their replacements? The ongoing mystery of Waring exemplifes the strange comgs and goins. Could he have been useful here? There's no way of knowing. We've had umpteen strikers but, really, Cook and Norwood have been our strikers ; for all his qualities (including scoring a few goals, some of which were very good) Norwood doesn't score enough to be an effectively ever-present first-choice striker in a promotion-winning team. It is still (just about) possible that Wallace and Tollit may return and be in good enough form to get us up, but it may be that we start sliding backwards and finish mid-table. But pace and creativity are essential if we're to go up.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
08 January, 2018 09:02
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The failure to bring on Gumbs is also indicative of a tendency to go for the inadequate but experienced. The return of those we have loaned out only takes the squad backwards
The constant summer in and outs and loanees are what got us to the NL in the first place unless we change that we won't get out. Clubs survived e much higher up the league pyramid than us on smaller budgets and that's because they have an ethos and they know what they are looking for.
Correct - there is no ethos as you say unless to sign experienced players found wanting. MM recruitment has been awful consider - Dawson (yes he signed him!), Mangan, Alabi, Waring, McEverley, Green, Cole, Rokka and I would include Wallace who was always a very risky gamble. Worse some were signed on 2 year contracts for heaven's sake so we will forking out money we don't have next season as well which already puts us at a disadvantage whatever League we are in. Ok bring in one "shop in potential" signing which may not pan out but that should be it. The others should deliver and they patently didn't so MP has been forced to find money to allow MM into the loan market wasting even more money to try and prop up these bad decisions.
Meanwhile he ignores our young homegrown players like the plague unless forced into it as even Clarke who arguably also had a fair bit to do with our purple patch would never have been given a start IMO if Ridelagh had stayed fit.

That assumes that MM is responsible for signing players, which none of us actually know, and as I understand it MM isn't responsible for signings at the club which would be backed up by the signing of Almond in between managers. Apparently MM and MP have had talks over this earlier in the season due to our poor form where MM requested to sign players of his choice leading to the arrival of DMH and Banks.
Correct you have to assume that MM is responsible for signing players which I do. I doubt MP who is a successful business man would have the time or the inclination to be involved in scouting players plus MM has brought in several players he knew well from previous positions such as Mangan. Either way for next season it needs to be someone else.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
08 January, 2018 15:36
just viewed the 5 min highlights of the barrow game on the club website. thought norwood did well to take his goal,he seemed to react quickly after their big no 2 missed the header to clear from the cross that had been sent over.



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
08 January, 2018 16:44
Also watch highlights which, seemed to back up the radio in respect of good chances created and that we probably should have won?. Hard to judge the penalty but, Grant Holt certainly made the most of it.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
09 January, 2018 12:42
Same here. Judging from the highlights alone, it would appear that MM is justified in saying it was a pretty one - sided game and we should be disappointed in not finishing the multitude of chances created.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
09 January, 2018 16:42
Shame Nors didn't take that first chance on his left foot. Always back him to score on his left. But like all great strikers kept going and was rewarded with a goal at the end

 
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09 January, 2018 16:57
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Same here. Judging from the highlights alone, it would appear that MM is justified in saying it was a pretty one - sided game and we should be disappointed in not finishing the multitude of chances created.

It wasn't as one sided as he made out. Their keeper was their best player though.

 
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09 January, 2018 16:59
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Shame Nors didn't take that first chance on his left foot. Always back him to score on his left. But like all great strikers kept going and was rewarded with a goal at the end

+1

Maybe he should try using his left foot more in those situations

 
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12 January, 2018 15:57
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Shame Nors didn't take that first chance on his left foot. Always back him to score on his left. But like all great strikers kept going and was rewarded with a goal at the end

+1

Maybe he should try using his left foot more in those situations

Personally, I believe he misses when he has too much time to think about things, like in one on ones.

 
dicko111
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 16:02
Dont believe he has to much time to think about things when most of the time he gets the ball on the edge of the box on a one on one .How many other players make those sort of chances for themselves with all his running off the ball .Come on Nors

 
bheadlad
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 16:12
Always seems to be positive when interviewed and I get the feeling he wants to play for us and never seem to hear that he wants to jump ship.Eleven goals is pretty good it easily into twenties with the missed one vs ones

 
Jack of all Trades
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 16:18
We have said this before, if he was converting more of his chances especially one on one's, I doubt he would be still here.

His all round effort and commitment is first class and IMO always worth his place in the team.

 
Wirral Mike
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 18:21
agree 100%, Nors is dignified, classy not short on skill or touches and never throws a strop when things don't go his way he just tries even harder the next time and runs his socks off for the team game in game out, yes he should score more but he fully deserves all the goals he has got and I think he will get 20 this season,

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 18:59
There is a art to finishing one on one's. Norwood just does not have it but his all round game is very good. I'm sure with a good coach he could be shown. Does anyone know do we have coach for the forwards?. With the likes of Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler, John Aldridge on our door step could we not get one in for a few weeks and try work with him.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:07
Good idea but, I don't remember Aldo scoring many one on one's (was it 168 goals for us?)

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:19
and the ultimate goal machine that is Ian Rush lives on the Wirral I think

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:23
Now Rushie did score quite a few one on one's with his pace.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:23
So not one was a one on one?



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:26
In all the games I saw Aldo play I honestly can't remember any, plenty in and around the box though.

Does anyone else know?

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:27
My point was I named three class strikers that all live around this area that could help him. I said Aldridge as he has a connection with the club and was a goal machine. Any of them would be massive for Norwood if they come in and work with him for a few weeks.



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:28
I did say it was a good idea, just making the point about Aldo

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:34
I just watched a 120 second video of him with just a few goals and there was 2 one on ones on it. But your right a lot of his goals was in the box but he did score one on one's.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:36
actually Aldo did do a nice little cameo video on one on ones for Nors recently, check it out on Youtube, and Nors seemed genuinely chuffed to get it but of course he is always a gent. I agree it's a nice idea to have one of those famous names work with James for some mornings on the training ground and let's not forget our very own Muiry if we're talking about role models and mentors but..................................how much of this can really be trained into someone and how much is or isn't built into the striker's skill set? but why not try it's a good idea

keep the faith 3 points at Woking tomorrow 2-1 to the SWA 1 each for Cookie and Nors

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:42
Yes your right Muir class act. I think every one can improve if shown a better way. I think if you have the talent already you can be taught a trick or two. Norwood is a very good player and I believe if he had a two week crash course with a class act he would get it.



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:46
Quote:
tranmerepete
There is a art to finishing one on one's. Norwood just does not have it but his all round game is very good. I'm sure with a good coach he could be shown. Does anyone know do we have coach for the forwards?. With the likes of Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler, John Aldridge on our door step could we not get one in for a few weeks and try work with him.
all good strikers might need a few bob to help them out. Malkin scored a few 1on 1s aswell

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 19:58
Maybe the trust could work something out



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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
12 January, 2018 23:15
Imagine a DVD with the greatest goals of Kithson Bain. John Barnes would enjoy all 90 seconds of scoring action on that DVD and the other 59 minutes 30 seconds of him eulogising about Kithson and Kithson eulogising about Kithson (Sm6)



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
13 January, 2018 17:15
You all say that the others didn't score that many 1 on 1s, but they didn't miss that many

 
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Re: Next up: Barrow (A)
13 January, 2018 18:23
It happens at all levels, Morata of Chelsea getting stick today for his weak spot one on one's.


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