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Post Match Mellon Head had a slightly different tone this week, maybe a case of the win allowing him to be a bit more honest or a case of nonexcuses left, seemed to acknowledge that this group isn't good enough as it stands and that we need more flare. An acknowledgment that it's not just about silky skills and as much about digging in.
In respects of Tollit, acknowledging we lack flare, pace and the ability to go past players and the fact he's not fit do you start Tollit Wednesday. Personally I thick not, at this stage I feel he may offer something more coming on from the bench with 25-30 to go, he'll be fresh defenders will be starting to flag, he can mix it up and gives him the best chance to run riot.
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Post Match Mellon Head had a slightly different tone this week, maybe a case of the win allowing him to be a bit more honest or a case of nonexcuses left, seemed to acknowledge that this group isn't good enough as it stands and that we need more flare. An acknowledgment that it's not just about silky skills and as much about digging in.
In respects of Tollit, acknowledging we lack flare, pace and the ability to go past players and the fact he's not fit do you start Tollit Wednesday. Personally I thick not, at this stage I feel he may offer something more coming on from the bench with 25-30 to go, he'll be fresh defenders will be starting to flag, he can mix it up and gives him the best chance to run riot.
Mellon Head wrong again
Quote:Matt you're a tough man but you're right.Matt34
Also someone replying to their own posts that they've quoted. There can't be many sadder sights than that, with the possible exception of an abandoned wet dog by the roadside and people liking their own stuff on social media.
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Yes because the manger made yet another poor decision, when have you ever heard of a player being out 8 months and starting from the off especially in @#$%& wet weather. It's not like he's even been playing reserve football. As for wet dogs, that's up their with people who think Premier League players should be on our maybe list and writing on backs of stamps.
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Yes because the manger made yet another poor decision, when have you ever heard of a player being out 8 months and starting from the off especially in @#$%& wet weather
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Think in Mickys defence it was dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Start him, bring him on 20 to go would it have changed the outcome?
Quote:Well that's not good...I am guessing it could have happened in any game, on the positive side (if there is one) its not a ligament injury again so should be a quicker recovery.Briantrfc
His godfather has confirmed its a fractured knee cap. 12 weeks out. Cant help but feel sorry for the lad!
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Why is it wrong to play him this week when all the medical advice available says he's fit and ready? The weather was the weather, we cannot only play when it's nice and sunny.
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His godfather has confirmed its a fractured knee cap. 12 weeks out. Cant help but feel sorry for the lad!
Quote:For playing Tollitt on Wednesday night,if the the weather had been dry and the pitch not so heavy with water due to the rain Tottitt may have moved quicker and got out of the way of the knock.😀Aldo'smuzzy
As I understand it, this injury has nothing to do with his old injury and nothing to do with the conditions. He said he took a knock. Could happen any time. What's Mellon going to be blamed for next?
Quote:maybe could of tried him in the shallow end first !Fiftyyearsarover
Well said Belmont of course we all wanted him back ,but to throw him in the deep end after such a long lay off was not the right choice 20 mins Wednesday and Against Chester then assessed him again not many players coming back from a long lay off get to start a full game ,to me that's not looking out for the lad ,more like an act of desperation
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Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Not once, either before the game or while it was in progress, did I hear anyone say that Ben should not have played. Speaking to people prior to kick off and all over social media, everyone was saying they were delighted he was back. He then gets injured, nothing to to do with his previous cruciate injury, and so many are now saying he should not have started, MM has panicked, wrong pitch etc etc etc.
It really seems some people are only happy when criticising.
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Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Not once, either before the game or while it was in progress, did I hear anyone say that Ben should not have played. Speaking to people prior to kick off and all over social media, everyone was saying they were delighted he was back. He then gets injured, nothing to to do with his previous cruciate injury, and so many are now saying he should not have started, MM has panicked, wrong pitch etc etc etc.
It really seems some people are only happy when criticising.
You don't need to rely on hindsight when you have foresight, as per my earlier comments he shouldn't play give him 25 minutes. It is not a repeat of the injury but an injury sustained through desperation and lack of match fitness. It's fine belting up and down solar campus, running through cones and playing 2 touch with your mates. I can tell you from personal experience NOTHING can replicate competition and the stresses and strains this puts on you. ACL can be career ending and it's for all these reasons, the repair maybe stronger but it's the collateral damage you can legislate for. Coming on for the last 20 if the game allows means everyone else is tired and he would be far fresher to compete comparatively. We all know Davies team talk would have been centred on BT once he saw the sheet, get into him, kick him welcome him back to the NL.
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Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Not once, either before the game or while it was in progress, did I hear anyone say that Ben should not have played. Speaking to people prior to kick off and all over social media, everyone was saying they were delighted he was back. He then gets injured, nothing to to do with his previous cruciate injury, and so many are now saying he should not have started, MM has panicked, wrong pitch etc etc etc.
It really seems some people are only happy when criticising.
You don't need to rely on hindsight when you have foresight, as per my earlier comments he shouldn't play give him 25 minutes. It is not a repeat of the injury but an injury sustained through desperation and lack of match fitness. It's fine belting up and down solar campus, running through cones and playing 2 touch with your mates. I can tell you from personal experience NOTHING can replicate competition and the stresses and strains this puts on you. ACL can be career ending and it's for all these reasons, the repair maybe stronger but it's the collateral damage you can legislate for. Coming on for the last 20 if the game allows means everyone else is tired and he would be far fresher to compete comparatively. We all know Davies team talk would have been centred on BT once he saw the sheet, get into him, kick him welcome him back to the NL.
Sorry if I missed it but, prior to kick off, where and when did you post/comment that Ben should not have started. I would also think that prior to selection MM would have sought the views of the club doctor, physio, possibly the surgeon and BT himself. Unless of course you know otherwise. The injury he sustained on Wednesday could have happened anytime and tackles are more likely to be mis timed in the last twenty minutes when the pitch is heavier and defenders tired.
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Maybe you should have made him a paper mache bandage from all of those ripped up £20 notes to wrap around his knee.
For that reason, his injury is more your fault than MM's![]()
In all seriousness though, he did take quite a kick about 5mins before going off. Going to happen on any type of pitch in any game in this league.
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Hindsight is such a wonderful thing. Not once, either before the game or while it was in progress, did I hear anyone say that Ben should not have played. Speaking to people prior to kick off and all over social media, everyone was saying they were delighted he was back. He then gets injured, nothing to to do with his previous cruciate injury, and so many are now saying he should not have started, MM has panicked, wrong pitch etc etc etc.
It really seems some people are only happy when criticising.
You don't need to rely on hindsight when you have foresight, as per my earlier comments he shouldn't play give him 25 minutes. It is not a repeat of the injury but an injury sustained through desperation and lack of match fitness. It's fine belting up and down solar campus, running through cones and playing 2 touch with your mates. I can tell you from personal experience NOTHING can replicate competition and the stresses and strains this puts on you. ACL can be career ending and it's for all these reasons, the repair maybe stronger but it's the collateral damage you can legislate for. Coming on for the last 20 if the game allows means everyone else is tired and he would be far fresher to compete comparatively. We all know Davies team talk would have been centred on BT once he saw the sheet, get into him, kick him welcome him back to the NL.
Sorry if I missed it but, prior to kick off, where and when did you post/comment that Ben should not have started. I would also think that prior to selection MM would have sought the views of the club doctor, physio, possibly the surgeon and BT himself. Unless of course you know otherwise. The injury he sustained on Wednesday could have happened anytime and tackles are more likely to be mis timed in the last twenty minutes when the pitch is heavier and defenders tired.
Right at the top of this thread when I said personally I wouldn't start him! An it wouldn't be like a football club to utilise a player who's not fit would it? The body is more susceptible to "those unrelated" injuries when not fit.