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Hoots Mon
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Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 12:44
It appears double standards when one young lad was hauled out by some stewards yesterday for swearing at Mellon near the end yet the Wrexham managers language throughout was appalling in the extreme and nothing was done. Somebody should have words with him and his club

 
gazza102
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 12:52
Given the abuse he took he handled himself well against a load of mindless idiots who wanted to have ago at him for celebrating his teams performance.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 12:53
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Given the abuse he took he handled himself well against a load of mindless idiots who wanted to have ago at him for celebrating his teams performance.

I am talking about during not after the game.

 
gazza102
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 12:56
I am talking about during the game and not after. He had to have the police protect him and stewards as well because he dared to celebrate when his team scored.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 12:59
We obviously saw different things then at different times. A lot of what I saw was in the first half as well.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 15:31
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I am talking about during the game and not after. He had to have the police protect him and stewards as well because he dared to celebrate when his team scored.

I guess you also condone the Wrexham players running over to celebrate in front of the Town Paddock rather than in front of their own fans; if you believe that was pure coincidence, rather than a deliberate act, then I totally disagree. Players, managers and assistants should not be beyond reproach when it comes to acceptable conduct. If you goad people in life, expect a response with both parties having responsibility for the outcome. For many a fan who has deservedly been ejected from the stadium, there's many a player, manager or assistant who have deserved the same fate. Of course, double standards will be excused such is the bubble that exists once you enter the football arena. The police and stewards were there because someone from their bench decided to "mouth off" and there was a reaction to this. I was determined to have a break from posting, but have been suckered back in. I wanted to add some balance and facts to this. I don't condone the actions, but it takes two to tango. Then again, I need to remember how awful our fans are, as some keep alluding to, and how saintly the football professionals are (just trying to conscientiously do their job).

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Dai Kwondo
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 15:55
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!

Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 16:22
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

Nothing to to with being sore losers. We weren't losing most of the time your manager was mouthing off. Part of a managers job is to conduct himself and represent his club in a decent manner and to a certain standard. Sorry to say that that was not done yesterday.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24/09/2017 16:24 by Hoots Mon.

 
Dai Kwondo
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 16:29
Keates talks so fast I'm surprised anyone can understand him!!

What about the plastic bottles and coins your fans threw at our goalkeeper???

 
Higgosboots
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 16:35
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

Nothing to to with being sore losers. We weren't losing most of the time your manager was mouthing off. Part of a managers job is to conduct himself and represent his club in a decent manner and to a certain standard. Sorry to say that that was not done yesterday.

Have you heard Eric Nixon, Jesus he's constant at the refs, F-ing this, F-ing that. It's football they swear. They are subject to the refs enforcement of the rules the fans are subject to the terms and condition such of entry, and they don't half go to town.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 17:27
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?


Sore losers.

And if you'd have shown as much interest in the forum after the Chester game as you are at the moment, then you'd have read that I scorned Cook's action on that occasion. Nice to see that you actually brought some fans this season. Now go and crawl back under your stone.
Higgosboots, before you get too excited, my comments about conduct were across the board.
When are you coming to town? (Sm100)

 
Dai Kwondo
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 17:42
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Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?


Sore losers.

And if you'd have shown as much interest in the forum after the Chester game as you are at the moment, then you'd have read that I scorned Cook's action on that occasion. Nice to see that you actually brought some fans this season. Now go and crawl back under your stone.
Higgosboots, before you get too excited, my comments about conduct were across the board.
When are you coming to town? (Sm100)

Are you so full of self-importance that you think I should remember your posts of old?
Tranmere Rovers. How the mighty have fallen....The next Stockport hopefully.

 
aktrfc
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 17:55
Come on mini Andy, please get him off here

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 18:14
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

I'm with Dai on this to be fair.

I'd expect us to act the same, it's called passion which is something we've lost and could do with getting back.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 18:19
No! Let him stay. This is so exciting, a major scientific and evolutionary breakthrough. Finally, "The Missing Link". If only we could get some of his DNA. Even better, we could educate him; I'd start with the connotations of the word "If"; a simple start, but essential. For those of us visiting Wrexham this season, look out for him; he'll be the one on all fours with the occasional unsuccessful attempt to walk upright (he'll also be eating his own faeces). Think of the financial reward; we'll be famous again! Thank you for exposing yourself Dai, you're the key to our future.

 
aktrfc
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 19:11
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Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

I'm with Dai on this to be fair.

I'd expect us to act the same, it's called passion which is something we've lost and could do with getting back.

Hopefully the next Stockport? And you're with him

 
mini_andy
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 19:22
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aktrfc
Come on mini Andy, please get him off here

To be fair, I'm with the Wrexham fan on this one. Look at the conduct of our players and staff and you'll soon realise that we are no saints.

Davies must be the most booked goalkeeper for timewasting!

 
aktrfc
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 19:52
It's the Stockport comment I have the issue with. I wouldn't go on there site and state that I hoped they went down.

 
Hardly Irons
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 20:07
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

I'm with Dai on this to be fair.

I'd expect us to act the same, it's called passion which is something we've lost and could do with getting back.

Hopefully the next Stockport? And you're with him

Sorry, where have I said I support that quote? Bit strawman there ak.

 
Hoots Mon
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
24 September, 2017 20:29
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Hardly Irons
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?

Sore losers.

I'm with Dai on this to be fair.

I'd expect us to act the same, it's called passion which is something we've lost and could do with getting back.

Hopefully the next Stockport? And you're with him

Sorry, where have I said I support that quote? Bit strawman there ak.


I know what you mean hardly. As the initiator of this thread,I must add that I was comparing the double standards involved IMO between the treatment of young lad who was taken away for AFAIK saying ''you're s**t Mellon '' to the unnecessary stuff that was coming out of Mr Keates' mouth throughout and the way they were respectively treated . I think it's now run its course

 
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 08:18
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Dai Kwondo
Awwwww give it a rest FFS!!!
Sore losers or what?

What about when you played away at Chester last season?
Do you remember when Andy Cook scored and ran over to celebrate right in front of Chester's 'boys'?


Sore losers.

And if you'd have shown as much interest in the forum after the Chester game as you are at the moment, then you'd have read that I scorned Cook's action on that occasion. Nice to see that you actually brought some fans this season. Now go and crawl back under your stone.
Higgosboots, before you get too excited, my comments about conduct were across the board.
When are you coming to town? (Sm100)

Are you so full of self-importance that you think I should remember your posts of old?
Tranmere Rovers. How the mighty have fallen....The next Stockport hopefully.

Every time that you come on to our forum you spout the same old repetitive drivel.. you never have anything positive or constructive to say, you are forever slagging us off with your constant anti-tranmere sentiment and now you are wishing relegation upon us.. you really are becoming a frightfully repetitious irksome welsh bore..so, OFF with you!!! , you Ovine Fondling F*ckwit!!!

 
pez
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 08:25
Just need to make sure we beat them in the away fixture, then go on to finish above them?

They played us at the right time tbh.

Hopefully we can get back on track and show them why were the bigger club!

Wrexham fans are vile creatures anyway.

We know were better than them and so do they. They are just in denial.

We'll see where we both finish in the league come next May!

 
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2 the moon (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 09:44
If I remember rightly Andy Cook gave it to the Chester fans in the home game aswell. It was a big win for them and a bit of an embarrassment for us, we're going to get our noses rubbed in it that's how it is. Suck it up and move on I say.
The Wrexham keeper getting stuff thrown at him was bang out of order and to be fair he took it well.
As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

 
WrexhamFan11
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 10:10
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Hoots Mon
It appears double standards when one young lad was hauled out by some stewards yesterday for swearing at Mellon near the end yet the Wrexham managers language throughout was appalling in the extreme and nothing was done. Somebody should have words with him and his club

What language has he used that's so extreme?

 
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hong kong rover (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 11:18
To Dai Kwondo, a few weeks back a young teenage sutton utd fan came on to our forum with a great article he had written. He thoroughly enjoyed his day out at prenton park with his dad, his team got a good result and he was full of praise for TRFC ( with the exception of the half time cheeseburgers.) it was great to read his article and maybe, just maybe u could learn from this young sutton lad on how best to conduct yourself when visiting other fans forums.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 17:32
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To Dai Kwondo, a few weeks back a young teenage sutton utd fan came on to our forum with a great article he had written. He thoroughly enjoyed his day out at prenton park with his dad, his team got a good result and he was full of praise for TRFC ( with the exception of the half time cheeseburgers.) it was great to read his article and maybe, just maybe u could learn from this young sutton lad on how best to conduct yourself when visiting other fans forums.

Thanks HKR for both posts; you've restored my faith. You've summed up the situation. Recent post from Impinsalford being a good example of a positive and constructive post on this forum. I think it's also been forgotten that prior to the bottle throwing incident by Tranmere fans, Davies had a bottle thrown at him in the second half by our whiter than white (oops! Racist comment there!) Welsh friends. Unlike Wrexham's keepers reaction, Davies calmly picked it up and placed it at the side of the goal. I don't condone either action. I guess some would rather focus on demeaning our players at every opportunity.



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Cpd_Wrecsam
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
25 September, 2017 23:17
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2 the moon
As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

If you'd been down here for a decade do you think your attendances would hold up? The last 3 seasons have been mediocre for us, finishing as low as 17th and a high of 8th yet those last 3 seasons still yielded average attendances of 3,600, 3,800 & 4,600.

As for Keates, he knows what this league is about so he'll get on the case of the officials because he knows the other clubs will too. We've always been nicey nicey so it's took us ten years to start playing the game in that respect.

As for the players celebrating near the home fans it would probably be just so they didn't get a booking.

 
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Phil65 (IP Logged)

Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 05:18
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As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

If you'd been down here for a decade do you think your attendances would hold up? The last 3 seasons have been mediocre for us, finishing as low as 17th and a high of 8th yet those last 3 seasons still yielded average attendances of 3,600, 3,800 & 4,600.

As for Keates, he knows what this league is about so he'll get on the case of the officials because he knows the other clubs will too. We've always been nicey nicey so it's took us ten years to start playing the game in that respect.

As for the players celebrating near the home fans it would probably be just so they didn't get a booking.

I can deal with that. At least you're trying to show some rationale and not just coming on here to antagonise us. I'm sure our attendances will gradually drop the longer we're here; hopefully it won't come to that.

 
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 06:15
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As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

If you'd been down here for a decade do you think your attendances would hold up? The last 3 seasons have been mediocre for us, finishing as low as 17th and a high of 8th yet those last 3 seasons still yielded average attendances of 3,600, 3,800 & 4,600.

As for Keates, he knows what this league is about so he'll get on the case of the officials because he knows the other clubs will too. We've always been nicey nicey so it's took us ten years to start playing the game in that respect.

As for the players celebrating near the home fans it would probably be just so they didn't get a booking.

I can deal with that. At least you're trying to show some rationale and not just coming on here to antagonise us. I'm sure our attendances will gradually drop the longer we're here; hopefully it won't come to that.

+1 phil65 and +1 cpd_wrecsam.. interesting to see the comment about wrexham being too nicey nicey for the past decade,, take note rovers! Agree with phils post from a few weeks ago,, when in rome and how to compete in this league. So true.

 
WrexhamFan11
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 11:24
Wrexham fan here, great atmosphere Saturday and a great game all round. Looking forward to to the home game in a few months. Where do you all think we will both finish this season.
Wrexham fan

 
Loyden1
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 14:50
Hopefully both top. 7.and hopefully we have improved by the time we go to the racecourse

 
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 18:11
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As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

If you'd been down here for a decade do you think your attendances would hold up? The last 3 seasons have been mediocre for us, finishing as low as 17th and a high of 8th yet those last 3 seasons still yielded average attendances of 3,600, 3,800 & 4,600.

As for Keates, he knows what this league is about so he'll get on the case of the officials because he knows the other clubs will too. We've always been nicey nicey so it's took us ten years to start playing the game in that respect.

As for the players celebrating near the home fans it would probably be just so they didn't get a booking.
no they wouldn't hold up. But yours were poor when you hadn't been here a decade and finished on 98pts. Still bellow 4k I believe. Anyway it's all swings and roundabouts and you've earned the bragging rights

 
Cpd_Wrecsam
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
26 September, 2017 18:27
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2 the moon
As for Dai i think we should excuse him as they're obviously getting a little excited. We've finished above them for 28 seasons on the bounce. Saying on here he hopes we are the next Stockport shows a lack of class but I'd say being the next Wrexham is an equally daunting prospect. Derelict stadium, all assets sold off and only managing one 5k plus average attendance in 35 years. We're terrible at the moment but still had 5400 home fans in the ground, in our position they'd be lucky to have 3000 at their place.

If you'd been down here for a decade do you think your attendances would hold up? The last 3 seasons have been mediocre for us, finishing as low as 17th and a high of 8th yet those last 3 seasons still yielded average attendances of 3,600, 3,800 & 4,600.

As for Keates, he knows what this league is about so he'll get on the case of the officials because he knows the other clubs will too. We've always been nicey nicey so it's took us ten years to start playing the game in that respect.

As for the players celebrating near the home fans it would probably be just so they didn't get a booking.
no they wouldn't hold up. But yours were poor when you hadn't been here a decade and finished on 98pts. Still bellow 4k I believe. Anyway it's all swings and roundabouts and you've earned the bragging rights

It was just shy of 4k the 98 point season. It seems strange that we had 2 seasons of nothing after which had higher averages.

I don't think that can be classed as poor in a league when some teams get 400-500 - and beat you.

FWIW I think you'll move up the table and finish in one of the last 2 play off places. The added berths and a tight league means a run of wins can get you up there.

Hoping we can make it to the play offs too. I've got a bit of hope for the first time in a while.

 
WrexhamFan11
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
27 September, 2017 09:39
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Hopefully both top. 7.and hopefully we have improved by the time we go to the racecourse

You won't ahahahahahahahahah
Wrexham fan.

 
efc0trfc3
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
27 September, 2017 10:36
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Come on mini Andy, please get him off here

To be fair, I'm with the Wrexham fan on this one. Look at the conduct of our players and staff and you'll soon realise that we are no saints.

Davies must be the most booked goalkeeper for timewasting!
Exactly right about Davies except he's not time wasting as such, he just hogs the ball as long as possible to keep himself in the spotlight!
If there's a more average goalkeeper out there masquerading as a top keeper then please let me know.

 
Loyden1
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
27 September, 2017 15:48
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Hopefully both top. 7.and hopefully we have improved by the time we go to the racecourse

You won't ahahahahahahahahah
Wrexham fan.
soft tw#t I was being nice

 
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Re: Wrexham manager's conduct
27 September, 2017 16:10
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Hopefully both top. 7.and hopefully we have improved by the time we go to the racecourse

You won't ahahahahahahahahah
Wrexham fan.

soft tw#t I was being nice

Brilliant response (Sm6)


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