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More time for Brabin
Discussion started by DevonExile (IP Logged), 26 April, 2016 21:33
DevonExile
DevonExile
26 April, 2016 21:33
On balance I have agreed with those that have said Brabin should be given more time.It is a sobering thought however that if he is still here at the start of the season it will be his longest continuous period with any club.He was dismissed by Cambridge and Luton soon after play off failure Although he had a lower percentage of losses at both clubs than he has here. Clearly in the past other clubs have come to the conclusion that he could not build a promotion squad.This will be the first time that he will have had a club for two close seasons and it will be interesting to see if MP's faith in him is rewarded.
At one level he is an experienced manager but it does make me wonder about the nature of that experience when he has been at no club for little more than a year

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TranmereFan
26 April, 2016 22:09
Think we should stick with him, we will only get stronger with stability i should imagine. With a few more additions its definitely a promotion squad. We have our best away form ever, the players will be more used to playing in front of a large (comparatively speaking) crowd at home next season and should be more comfortable and form will be better.

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Matt34
26 April, 2016 23:27
Another thought.

Chris Powell finished outside of the top 10 in his first season at Charlton and lost to Northwich in the cup, but the following season 103 points and promotion.

I'm not saying Brabin would bag 103 points, but given the size of Charlton, Powell could have bitten the dust by February in his first season or possibly earlier, but the patience paid off, for a club that had been in the top 2 tiers for, I think, over 1/4 of a century before that.

I was expecting Tranmere to finish top 10 minimum and that has happened, but now I expect 1st next season and top 5 minimum, if the club don't get promotion, but I think Brabin could potentially find a way to do it and if Powell could do that in similar circumstances, i.e. big budget team relevant to most clubs at the same level, then Brabin should be considered at least potentially capable of a similar feat, because as it stands it is not next season and therefore there is no solid evidence to suggest he couldn't do that, as he has not played even 5 games of next seasons fixtures and what has occurred this season is not clear evidence of not getting between 1st to 5th by October, as that's the future.

So he should be allowed at least 10 games of next season to make his mark and adjust to a changing of squad members and budget adjustments.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

DevonExile
DevonExile
27 April, 2016 09:32
Do not disagree with any of that. His career does however show that his experience has been restricted to short term management of a club. In that sense he is entering new territory with two close seasons available. We are entering untested territory as there is no evidence of Brabin's capacity to build over time. It is not a criticism of him,just acknowledgement that his managerial experience is resticted to a one season dimension

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
27 April, 2016 09:40
I think Brabn will be here next year. Our worst possible finish is 7th which I think is to low but obviously not for MP.

Brabin has made it clear this year that he's not happy with some antics from the crowd blaming unrealistic expectation. This has been somewhat sobered though by sections who will except the lower finish and be happy with top ten.

Brabin has also been able to fall back on the following excuses this season: We are a big club everyone wants to play at PP and beat us.

The club has been in free fall I have had to stop the rot.

I had no players I have had to build from scratch and the players need time to gel.

Well next year I really can't see any fan being happy with top ten. A top 5 finish is an absolute must and furthermore most fans will feel we should be challenging at the top, realistically top 3 has to be the target. I certainly can't see anyone being happy with us finishing 6th or lower. The expectation will be massive.

He has a squad in place now, no rebuilding is needed, no gelling and no adjustment, so that excuse has gone. We are no longer in free fall, the shoot has deployed our feet have touched down and we have boarded the plane which has now started down the runway and past v1, so that excuse has gone. We will be in our second season at this level and the novelty of Prenton Park will have worn off coupled with the fact we were 7th, 6th or 5th this year so no longer the team to beat, so that excuse has gone.

As stated above it will be his first season ever as a retained manager it will be truly interesting to see wether he can stand the heat in the kitchen because next year it's is club, his team and his way, no more excuses.

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Paz
27 April, 2016 10:09
As much as my opinion of the man has been evident during this season. I'm willing to give hime some time next season.

As has been said already though, we simply HAVE to be top 5 minimum. If we get a slow start in August, his position must surely be in question

boneyM
boneyM
27 April, 2016 10:40
Always a tough'un, and I guess a lot will depend on what happens this weekend. Am not sure if I buy into giving managers 'enough' time or whatever it actually means, but with York and Dagenham, even armed with their parachute payments already giving out sound bites about the need to economise and bring in hungry youngsters and with Eastleigh and FGR making similar noises about their playing budgets next year, you would have to say, especially on what we have all witnessed this season that 2016/17 could be the most realistic chance any team with real ambition has of getting out of it.

Will it Brabin charged to do so....ask the same question Sunday

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2 the moon
27 April, 2016 10:51
To be honest, these days completing a full season as manager is an achievment

MoanerLesser
Account Deleted FoaHsssleFreeLife
27 April, 2016 15:08
Cheltenham had a brand new team. Gelling is in the hands of the manager and his ability to communicate. Clearly, Cheltenham have a better manager. However, maybe Brabin has learned something from this year and with some fine tuning and more positive home game formations, maybe it will be a good year. I cannot see Braintree losing and unless home form improves I cannot see Tranmere winning on Saturday.

Hope I am wrong but I have accepted National League for next season.

Doug heffernan
Doug heffernan
27 April, 2016 16:37
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DevonExile
On balance I have agreed with those that have said Brabin should be given more time.It is a sobering thought however that if he is still here at the start of the season it will be his longest continuous period with any club.He was dismissed by Cambridge and Luton soon after play off failure Although he had a lower percentage of losses at both clubs than he has here. Clearly in the past other clubs have come to the conclusion that he could not build a promotion squad.This will be the first time that he will have had a club for two close seasons and it will be interesting to see if MP's faith in him is rewarded.

both these clubs now operate in the football league, after realising brabin isnt the man for the job

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
27 April, 2016 19:34
The big problem is that you should really stick with a manager once the season has started, unless things are really bad. You have placed your trust and your money in the manager at the beginning of the season and he will have tried to embed his strategy throughout pre-season.

This concept of 'ten games to prove himself' is silly because then we would have to start all over again, without a pre-season phase to iron out any issues. And who would be available to take over? There may actually be no one.

Decisions should be made for the long term and if Brabin starts next season as manager, he should finish it.

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Doogie'sGhost
27 April, 2016 20:10
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The big problem is that you should really stick with a manager once the season has started, unless things are really bad. You have placed your trust and your money in the manager at the beginning of the season and he will have tried to embed his strategy throughout pre-season.
This concept of 'ten games to prove himself' is silly because then we would have to start all over again, without a pre-season phase to iron out any issues. And who would be available to take over? There may actually be no one.

Decisions should be made for the long term and if Brabin starts next season as manager, he should finish it.

I actually disagree Kenny. I much prefer the idea of changing the manager in season, particularly at the lower levels. While it may not change the season around it allows the new manager to come in, get a feel for the club and the see players he has in real action. I feel it is much easier to make proper evaluations like this, where the players are under some pressure but the manager isn't really. He can decide who he wants to resign, who to let go, who he needs to sign to work with the players that remain. Otherwise he's coming in cold, some decisions may have been made without him.

10 games is too short a time, and it's a bit different at a bigger club, but I'd have no problem replacing the manager after Christmas if we aren't in contention. I'd worry about doing it much before then allowing the new manager too much opportunity to tinker, like we did with Adams.

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
27 April, 2016 20:24
I don't disagree with changing 'in season' if it's required. I simply feel that if people are thinking of giving Brabin ten games to prove himself, he might as well go now because ten games is nothing.

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Doogie'sGhost
27 April, 2016 20:26
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Kenny_Crons
I don't disagree with changing 'in season' if it's required. I simply feel that if people are thinking of giving Brabin ten games to prove himself, he might as well go now because ten games is nothing.

Ok, that I agree with. Your start it, finish it statement threw me.

Kenny_Crons
Kenny_Crons
27 April, 2016 20:44
I was sort of playing Devil's advocate really!

It just strikes me as strange that a strategy of giving someone ten games would be considered.

In my naivety, I am hoping for a bit of pro-activity rather than having the same season pan out next year and then we become reactive.

brendanlouis
brendanlouis
27 April, 2016 21:20
Look how well Cheltenham have done .It has been an opportunity missed,because we have allowed the narrative of "Not this season"
Brabin has been able to sign who he likes,and he has picked the team & tactics.
Simply not good enough and we have badly underperformed .Branin has been allowed to get away with it.
If we do get the luck of the Gods on Saturday I hope we win the playoffs but I would still change the Manager.
He is the Alan Ball football genius of the National League.

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Matt34
27 April, 2016 21:48
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Kenny_Crons
I was sort of playing Devil's advocate really!
It just strikes me as strange that a strategy of giving someone ten games would be considered.

In my naivety, I am hoping for a bit of pro-activity rather than having the same season pan out next year and then we become reactive.

Well I admit, it wasn't an exacting viewpoint of mine, as flexibility can be observed.

Many will say that 5-6 games identifies the potential strugglers from the runners and riders, but 10 should be long enough to have more than likely played at least one promotion contender, at home and one away and 1-2 strugglers home and away, but in reality he could need until the end of November and if he's nowhere near the playoffs, then it would be prudent to get him replaced, so someone else can assess the squad for a month and have adequate recruitment time, as doing what Tony Fernandez did at QPR by bringing in Mark Hughes around 10 days into a January window, to me represents foolish chairmanship and hinders a new incumbent.

In relation to 10 games though, Sheffield United axed David Weir after 10 games for getting 5 points, but Brabin wouldn't be likely to do that, unless injuries kicked in very quickly and in bulk.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Uglybob
Uglybob
27 April, 2016 21:57
Did we not give Rob Edwards 10 games ? Or was it 11 ? Either way it wasn't long . The subject of GB seems to be a subjective thing , some think he's stabilized the club and should be given the benefit and others who think he's had enough time / resources to take the club to a higher position than we are currently at . My own opinion would be to stick with GB , provide him with the support and finance to strengthen the squad and go again next season ( either in NL or Div2 ). I don't go for knee jerk reactions and we had no divine right to get automatic promotion , it had to be earned . I've mentioned before , Fergie took over in 86 and kept his job after winning the FA cup in 90 . It wasn't till 93 that he won the league , SEVEN YEARS of support , confidence and faith in him . I know the game has changed and it is now instant success ( Forest Green just sacked manager after finishing 2nd , just before play offs ?! ) but with a few tweaks I don't think we are too far off a higher finish next season ( if we don't go up through play offs ) . It's been a frustrating season but let's give Mark , Nicola and Gary a bit of time before we start swapping and changing . Stability is often the key whether it be ownership , management or playing 11 .

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
27 April, 2016 22:00
We played 12 or 13 games by the end of September this season.

TRFCJGregz
TRFCJGregz
27 April, 2016 23:41
I think we should give Brabin more time because we've had a lot of instability in the last few years and sometimes success comes more slowly than we football fans would like. I do have my concerns over Brabin.

First, SUBSTITUTIONS: some of his substitutions have been strange to say the least.

Second, STRIKERS: of the strikers he has brought in (Mangan, Norwood, Margetts, Higdon and Taylor-Fletcher) only Norwood and, to a lesser extent, Taylor-Fletcher have been a success. It suggests to me he can't pick a striker, which is worrying because at the beginning of the season Gary Johnson said you need goals, goals, goals to get out of this division. His Yeovil side scored 100 goals to win the conference a few years ago.

Third, HOME FORM: he has managed a team who have lost too many games at home and he's been unable to address this problem.

Fourth, INEXPERIENCE: he has no experience of getting promoted out of this division (unlike Johnson).


Fifth, NOT MANAGED HIGHER THAN CONFERENCE: he hasn't managed in the league above (i.e. League Two). Having experience managing in L2 means you know a wider pool of players personally because you've seen them play. Also you know other people personally. At the beginning of the season G. Johnson said he would have to call favours in in order to get players. If you've never managed in L2 then you haven't built up the personal relationships with L2 players and/or managers and so you have no favours to call in!

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TT Admin
27 April, 2016 23:58
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Second, STRIKERS: of the strikers he has brought in (Mangan, Norwood, Margetts, Higdon and Taylor-Fletcher) only Norwood and, to a lesser extent, Taylor-Fletcher have been a success. It suggests to me he can't pick a striker, which is worrying because at the beginning of the season Gary Johnson said you need goals, goals, goals to get out of this division. His Yeovil side scored 100 goals to win the conference a few years ago

To be fair though, were there any Rovers fans who during pre-season thought that Norwood and Mangan weren't two great signings to have at this level and he then added Margetts who the fans instantly liked (overhyped in my own opinion).

That makes three decent strikers at the start of the season. The fans thought it and Brabin and his coaching staff probably also thought it - the fact it didn't work out in all cases couldn't have been predicted back then.

Then when it did seem like we needed to freshen it up on the front line he brought in Taylor-Fletcher who you yourself said has been a success of sorts and was an instant success five minutes into his debut at Forest Green??

Also what are the examples of strange substitutions out of interest?



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Doug heffernan
Doug heffernan
28 April, 2016 07:47
the bottom line is palios never gave edwards a chance and sacked him very quickly after he took over and has since gone on to employ adams and brabin, it beggers belief, it really does (Sm18)

MoanerLesser
Account Deleted FoaHsssleFreeLife
28 April, 2016 08:42
Rob Edwards. W2 D4 L8. Definitely beggars belief.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
28 April, 2016 08:45
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MoanerLesser
Rob Edwards. W2 D4 L8. Definitely beggars belief.



From the moment Palios emphasised that he didn't appoint Edwards,Rob never stood a chance

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Doogie'sGhost
28 April, 2016 09:50
Edwards was appointed by a different regime, with a different set of priorities. He got a chance, not much of one admittedly, but he had to be an instant hit to avoid getting replaced and I think we can all agree he wasn't that.

MoanerLesser
Account Deleted FoaHsssleFreeLife
28 April, 2016 11:16
We have had 15 managers since Johnny King including the doubling up scenarios. I bet some fans change their socks less frequently ;0)

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TT Admin
28 April, 2016 13:08
I completely agree about Edwards but for comparisons to the harsh treatment of Edwards see also Ronnie Moore (twice), Ray Mathias etc etc....

MoanerLesser
Account Deleted FoaHsssleFreeLife
28 April, 2016 14:11
And they were not Palios's fault!!!

And Edwards has had a fantastic career since

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TRFCJGregz
TRFCJGregz
28 April, 2016 17:47
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Second, STRIKERS: of the strikers he has brought in (Mangan, Norwood, Margetts, Higdon and Taylor-Fletcher) only Norwood and, to a lesser extent, Taylor-Fletcher have been a success. It suggests to me he can't pick a striker, which is worrying because at the beginning of the season Gary Johnson said you need goals, goals, goals to get out of this division. His Yeovil side scored 100 goals to win the conference a few years ago

To be fair though, were there any Rovers fans who during pre-season thought that Norwood and Mangan weren't two great signings to have at this level and he then added Margetts who the fans instantly liked (overhyped in my own opinion).

That makes three decent strikers at the start of the season. The fans thought it and Brabin and his coaching staff probably also thought it - the fact it didn't work out in all cases couldn't have been predicted back then.

Then when it did seem like we needed to freshen it up on the front line he brought in Taylor-Fletcher who you yourself said has been a success of sorts and was an instant success five minutes into his debut at Forest Green??

Also what are the examples of strange substitutions out of interest?

My point about the strikers was never about what they looked like at the beginning of the season but that they've not delivered.

One of the strange substitutions was pulling off GTF during the 1-2 home game against Welling. He was man of the match for that game. Looking at his reaction on the bench, GTF didn't take too kindly in being subbed.

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TT Admin
28 April, 2016 18:09
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TRFCJGregz
My point about the strikers was never about what they looked like at the beginning of the season but that they've not delivered.
One of the strange substitutions was pulling off GTF during the 1-2 home game against Welling. He was man of the match for that game. Looking at his reaction on the bench, GTF didn't take too kindly in being subbed.

But your points made in the post were under reasons why you have doubts about Brabin....

The fact they've failed to deliver isn't all down to him.

AndyMase
AndyMase
28 April, 2016 18:40
For me it isn't that the subs are strange just generally ineffective and without ambition. Generally like for like and not changing shape when losing or drawing.

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Matt34
28 April, 2016 21:53
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TRFCJGregz
INEXPERIENCE: he has no experience of getting promoted out of this division (unlike Johnson).

NOT MANAGED HIGHER THAN CONFERENCE: he hasn't managed in the league above (i.e. League Two). Having experience managing in L2 means you know a wider pool of players personally because you've seen them play. Also you know other people personally. At the beginning of the season G. Johnson said he would have to call favours in in order to get players. If you've never managed in L2 then you haven't built up the personal relationships with L2 players and/or managers and so you have no favours to call in!

True, but that would not have been the case had Luton beaten Torguay on penalities; a scenario that could not be put on Brabin's shoulders, unless he never bothered to practice penalties and given he had professional training hours at his disposal, that should have been a requisite week in week out and I expect he would have insisted on such a training demand.

However he is someone with league experience as a player, so he should have one or two connections, especially to Evertons pool of youth; connections that managers who manage and play at non-league level would not have, unless perhaps released by a big club as players, or who know people who manage and coach at league level but played non-league.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

TRFCJGregz
TRFCJGregz
28 April, 2016 22:30
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Deadly Submarine
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TRFCJGregz
My point about the strikers was never about what they looked like at the beginning of the season but that they've not delivered.
One of the strange substitutions was pulling off GTF during the 1-2 home game against Welling. He was man of the match for that game. Looking at his reaction on the bench, GTF didn't take too kindly in being subbed.

But your points made in the post were under reasons why you have doubts about Brabin....

The fact they've failed to deliver isn't all down to him.

OK. Fair enough. I take the point that their failure to deliver isn't all down to him, however, as manager he bears the main responsibility. He buys the players, picks the team and sets the tactics. Lets just say that he's brought in four strikers (Higdon, Mangan, Margetts and Fenwick) and they haven't worked out. I do think that this does place a question mark over him bringing in the right stikers for this division and/or how to deploy them. Looking at the division 11 teams have scored more goals than we have! Had we been able to score a few more goals then we may have turned some of those draws into wins and some of those losses into draws.

Uglybob
Uglybob
28 April, 2016 22:50
A lot of the posts seem to be obsessed with the strikers GB has bought / played and the success / goal percentage they have offered . BUT , do you not think we need to look at the team as a whole ? We're else are goals coming from ? How many have our midfield contributed over the season ? How many have Mekki , Jenno , Harris , Kirby , Maynard scored this season ? I've read posts stating a percentage of Norwood' s goals have been pens . So what ! He's still bagged them . A lot has been said of Mangan , GTF , Fenwick , Norwood , Margetts , but let's look at contributions from the whole team and not just use GB`s striker signings as an excuse for where we are .

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Paz
29 April, 2016 08:59
I've noticed a turn in a lot of posts.

eg. When we signed Higdon, I remember seeing posts along the lines of "He's got a great scoring record" and "finally, a striker I've heard of!"

Hindsight is a fantastic thing.

On the management front, you could say the same about Adams. Yes, Luton fans "warned us" about him, but on paper I definitely thought he was a great appointment when he was announced!

Uglybob made a good point about everyone focusing on the strikers (admittedly they will get a lot of focus due to the position they hold). We do need goals from other areas of the pitch. I think part of that problem has been Jenno & Harris being too similar. Next season I'd like to see Harris be the ball winning midfielder and give Maynard the role he was so effective in for Halifax as the attacking midfielder helping the front line. I feel that, with some more development, Mekki could be deployed more as an inside forward, cutting in and taking some shots. Likewise with Dawson if he comes back.

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hong kong rover
29 April, 2016 10:18
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Paz
I've noticed a turn in a lot of posts.
eg. When we signed Higdon, I remember seeing posts along the lines of "He's got a great scoring record" and "finally, a striker I've heard of!"

Hindsight is a fantastic thing.

On the management front, you could say the same about Adams. Yes, Luton fans "warned us" about him, but on paper I definitely thought he was a great appointment when he was announced!

Uglybob made a good point about everyone focusing on the strikers (admittedly they will get a lot of focus due to the position they hold). We do need goals from other areas of the pitch. I think part of that problem has been Jenno & Harris being too similar. Next season I'd like to see Harris be the ball winning midfielder and give Maynard the role he was so effective in for Halifax as the attacking midfielder helping the front line. I feel that, with some more development, Mekki could be deployed more as an inside forward, cutting in and taking some shots. Likewise with Dawson if he comes back.

hi paz, adams never managed at luton so how come it was their fans that warned us about him? do u mean gary brabin?



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Paz
29 April, 2016 10:45
(Sm164)

I meant Vale

apologies for the confusion

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hong kong rover
29 April, 2016 10:48
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Paz
(Sm164)
I meant Vale

apologies for the confusion

no worries paz

mattyj
mattyj
29 April, 2016 16:06
I'm prepared to give Brabin another go but I'm not entirely convinced. I think if he gets a settled team from the seasons start that will definitely make a difference. Twice this season he has changed formation and or personell and it's cost us points which is not acceptable. Before mcnulty came in, defensively we were doing fine but the change coupled with the inability to find a suitable partner for him started that awful run in November. That can't happen again.

His in game management is also questionable as he very rarely makes changes that end in a positive outcome. We also need to change our attitude in home games because this also isn't acceptable.

There are two things we desperately need, creativity and goals. If he solves that in pre season then I think we will be fine. I would also like to see the fitness of the team too because we aren't fit enough and that can make a massive difference in this league.

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
29 April, 2016 18:21
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mattyj
I'm prepared to give Brabin another go but I'm not entirely convinced. I think if he gets a settled team from the seasons start that will definitely make a difference. Twice this season he has changed formation and or personell and it's cost us points which is not acceptable. Before mcnulty came in, defensively we were doing fine but the change coupled with the inability to find a suitable partner for him started that awful run in November. That can't happen again.
His in game management is also questionable as he very rarely makes changes that end in a positive outcome. We also need to change our attitude in home games because this also isn't acceptable.

There are two things we desperately need, creativity and goals. If he solves that in pre season then I think we will be fine. I would also like to see the fitness of the team too because we aren't fit enough and that can make a massive difference in this league.

So in a nutshell if he changes his complete managment philosophy we will do ok.

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TT Admin
29 April, 2016 18:24
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Twice this season.....

What about the other 45 games?



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kennyspint
kennyspint
29 April, 2016 18:41
I don't think it's as simple as does he stay or go. You have to factor in the availability of a decent alternative. If a proven league 1 or 2 manager let the Palioses know he was dying to manage Rovers that's one thing but if nobody with a better track record than Brabin is available then that's another.

DevonExile
DevonExile
29 April, 2016 18:55
One never knows that until it tested. If and when MP decides that we need a new manager then I am fairly sure that he will take soundings of interest. These can provide a benchmark against which to judge other applicants.You would have to be confident that you had an exceptional option not to go to advert

Higgosboots
Higgosboots
29 April, 2016 19:00
I can't see GB not being here next year, but I would like to see us go and get Dave Jones, I think one thing has shown this year in the absence of funds you need a top manager, he's local experienced at a high level and out of work.

kennyspint
kennyspint
29 April, 2016 19:06
Wasn't he touted as Rob Edwards replacement until Adams arrived?

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Matt34
29 April, 2016 21:24
Dave Jones was linked with the position and was apparently seen talking to Tranmere staff in a Chester hotel.

However Palios believed Dave would want league 1 or Championship level management.

Palios also claimed Dave was going to be brought in in a consultancy basis to help Edwards, which would have meant Edwards would get longer in post, but that Edwards turned the help down.

However Edwards went on to say in an LMA statement, that he never turned down help and even spoke to Brendan Rogers more than once.

Make of all that what you will, however I would think Dave Jones would still be in line for a better option, even if Tranmere got promoted.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

coltran
coltran
30 April, 2016 11:31
So Dave Jones has a track record of managing in non-league and getting promotion then?

martyd12
martyd12
30 April, 2016 13:20
I just wonder how long he is prepared to wait for a better option to come along! How long is it since he last worked?

bheadlad
bheadlad
30 April, 2016 20:14
I doubt if Brabin is going anywhere even though he guided us to sixth.Jones and other tried and trusted men would cost money even if they have a current or recent CV that is relevant


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