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I do not think it is an either or issue.We often lend out younger players to teams in lower leagues as part of their development when they are not yet ready for the national,equally we borrow from league clubs players who may not be ready for league football but who can do a job at conference level. Dunn is a typical example.
Youngsters can have potential but it is no more than that. Kirby,for example,has looked OK at conference level but was not convincing when we were in the league.
It is however disappointing that in the last couple of seasons none of our young players have broken through to conference level.If that continues for many more seasons then there is a case for reviewing whether the youth system needs to be either changed or scrapped
Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Quote:efc0trfc3Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Quote:Viking TranmereQuote:efc0trfc3Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Thats OK efc0trfc3, I respect your opinion (& MM's!). But in my opinion Dunn is overrated. No assists and no goals in his appearances so far. It was his poor pass to Buxton that ended up with the latter diving in and getting sent off in that fateful Bromley game. Its a shame our scouts couldnt have picked up Benyu instead.
Our own Mitch is a far better player, and much fitter.
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Viking TranmereQuote:efc0trfc3Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Thats OK efc0trfc3, I respect your opinion (& MM's!). But in my opinion Dunn is overrated. No assists and no goals in his appearances so far. It was his poor pass to Buxton that ended up with the latter diving in and getting sent off in that fateful Bromley game. Its a shame our scouts couldnt have picked up Benyu instead.
Our own Mitch is a far better player, and much fitter.
Dunn did not look overweight at Guiseley to me-he played well when he first came here until he injured himself racing out after a long clearance from our area. He was then out until last Monday when he was poor in the minutes he was on.But he hadn't played for umpteen weeks so it's hardly surprising.
Duggan came on against Dag and Red away and was MOM for the last thirty minutes. He then played IIRC against Woking[when I was away] but since I came back I haven't seen him.He's been at Warrington but it's hard to find out how many games he's actually played for them.Presumably MM thinks he is better off there for the moment
What do you base your comment that ''our own Mitch is a far better player,and much fitter ''on?
Quote:Viking TranmereQuote:Hoots MonQuote:Viking TranmereQuote:efc0trfc3Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Thats OK efc0trfc3, I respect your opinion (& MM's!). But in my opinion Dunn is overrated. No assists and no goals in his appearances so far. It was his poor pass to Buxton that ended up with the latter diving in and getting sent off in that fateful Bromley game. Its a shame our scouts couldnt have picked up Benyu instead.
Our own Mitch is a far better player, and much fitter.
Dunn did not look overweight at Guiseley to me-he played well when he first came here until he injured himself racing out after a long clearance from our area. He was then out until last Monday when he was poor in the minutes he was on.But he hadn't played for umpteen weeks so it's hardly surprising.
Duggan came on against Dag and Red away and was MOM for the last thirty minutes. He then played IIRC against Woking[when I was away] but since I came back I haven't seen him.He's been at Warrington but it's hard to find out how many games he's actually played for them.Presumably MM thinks he is better off there for the moment
What do you base your comment that ''our own Mitch is a far better player,and much fitter ''on?
Dunn is not the answer.
Opinion on Mitch is based on his cameo in the Woking home game, and his MoM performance at Dagenham away.
Quote:Hoots MonQuote:Viking TranmereQuote:Hoots MonQuote:Viking TranmereQuote:efc0trfc3Quote:I can't agree with you on Dunn, and I'm pretty certain Micky doesn't either.Viking Tranmere
Cole counts as one of our young players and with 2 hat-tricks in 2 months is doing a great job.
Mitch imo is a great prospect and should now be in the team.
Our best loan player recently has been Ben Tollitt who we then signed. I don't think Jack Dunn is anywhere near that quality and is certainly no better than our own Mitch. He is also overweight for a professional footballer, like Buxton and McNulty and am amazed that Micky and Jacko tolerate this. I agree on Aldershot's Benyu he must be the best loan player in the Conference at the moment, and will be a problem we will need to deal with if we get them rather than Dover in the playoffs. Collins and Sousa look very useful in the very short game times they have been given, and sharper and fitter than Dunn imo.
Thats OK efc0trfc3, I respect your opinion (& MM's!). But in my opinion Dunn is overrated. No assists and no goals in his appearances so far. It was his poor pass to Buxton that ended up with the latter diving in and getting sent off in that fateful Bromley game. Its a shame our scouts couldnt have picked up Benyu instead.
Our own Mitch is a far better player, and much fitter.
Dunn did not look overweight at Guiseley to me-he played well when he first came here until he injured himself racing out after a long clearance from our area. He was then out until last Monday when he was poor in the minutes he was on.But he hadn't played for umpteen weeks so it's hardly surprising.
Duggan came on against Dag and Red away and was MOM for the last thirty minutes. He then played IIRC against Woking[when I was away] but since I came back I haven't seen him.He's been at Warrington but it's hard to find out how many games he's actually played for them.Presumably MM thinks he is better off there for the moment
What do you base your comment that ''our own Mitch is a far better player,and much fitter ''on?
Dunn is not the answer.
Opinion on Mitch is based on his cameo in the Woking home game, and his MoM performance at Dagenham away.
Bell Baggie had two great performances against Notts County but was nothing like as good against anybody else. He wasn't the answer either but Dunn needs to play in the two remaining games for a proper fair opinion to be formed. Based on the games before his injury ,I would disagree with you.