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Tranmere Rovers v Charlton Athletic Match Discussion
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24/02/2012 16:55 by Deadly Submarine.

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bigmart
17 February, 2012 20:06
2 0 to them

@gony
@gony
17 February, 2012 20:30
3 - 1 great win for the Rovers !!!!! c'mon let get at em

S.W.A
S.W.A
17 February, 2012 22:36
it is going to be a draw

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Matt34
17 February, 2012 23:31
If it goes in a similar fashion to the Huddersfield game, then a cheeky 1-0 for Tranmere might be on the cards.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

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TranmereFan
18 February, 2012 09:25
We will be taught a footballing lesson at least 0-3 and at a guess plenty of Les shouts

kennel
kennel
18 February, 2012 11:24
we can win this game if Les picks the right team.....Fon-williams,Holmes,Goodison,Taylor,Buchanon,Deavaney,Labadie,Wallace,Welsh,McGurck,Tyriacki.

JonesMusic
Matthew the rover
18 February, 2012 11:52
Fonners back in the team, defence more confident, Devaney finding form, Showunmi and Robinson not too far away so players pushing harder for their place in the team. 1-0 Tranmere

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 15:29
unchanged side ! that's great ! fancy us to win this comeon Rovers

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 15:38
Brunt 1 up !!

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 16:22
bugga come on lads get in to them and ......................

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TT Admin
18 February, 2012 16:34
1-1 now sounds like Charlton came out all guns blazing second half.

I'll take a draw IF we can hang on (famous last words).

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 16:59
excellent

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TT Admin
18 February, 2012 17:00
Disappointing to lose a lead but great result!

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 17:06
oo deadly after your post ?!?!?!? did worry ! but another great result 15 places between us

pez
pez
18 February, 2012 17:08
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@gony
excellent

I apologise @gony, however I reserve judgement until the end of the season, but yes agreed, great result and a controversial Charlton goal

Onwards and Upwards!

Ricci
Ricci
18 February, 2012 17:35
Draws are no good to us. The gap to the bottom four has narrowed again and that is now 1 win in 18.

Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.

Still, we didn't lose I suppose.

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 17:43
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Ricci
Draws are no good to us. The gap to the bottom four has narrowed again and that is now 1 win in 18.
Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.

Still, we didn't lose I suppose.
six points off the relergation zone
or 6 points from 10th place ! well I'm happy with todays result

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BELMONT
18 February, 2012 18:27
Quote:
Ricci
Draws are no good to us. The gap to the bottom four has narrowed again and that is now 1 win in 18.
Charlton are not Real Madrid and we backed off too much in the 2nd half and invited them onto us. They probably deserved to win, certainly in chances created.

Still, we didn't lose I suppose.

A good result if we were not on the run we are on if Walsall win their game in hand we will be down to three points off the bottom four so really a win was what was needed today;Les puts on subs that were like for like that`s OK if we were winning but it does not change things ,OK perhaps players were getting to a point when they loose their legs but again we sat to deep when defending and why do they not leave some on the half way line when we are defending a corner it just leads to ball coming back at us when cleared,oh and why does Les still stick with McGurk as one of his main strike force but I am sorry to me McGurk chickens out to many times and fails to take his chances when given them,we need wins fast(a win I told is when your team scores more then the others)

welsh rover
welsh rover
18 February, 2012 18:28
good result, bossed the first half. should of went in more than 1-0 up at half time tho. happy with a point but got to start winning soon.

Mal again
Mal again
18 February, 2012 19:11
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 19:13
We stuck when we should have twisted. We sat so far back in the second half it was criminal and just a matter of time till they equalised. After that we showed no ambition or urgency to go for the winner.Considering the fact that their defence were not playing that well it was very poor that we did not put them under any pressure in the second half.Brunt was so far in front of the rest of them that he had no chance most of the time yet he battled really well and must be knackered tonight.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 19:16
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Deadly Submarine
Disappointing to lose a lead but great result!

It could have been better if we'd tried to push forward more in the second half.Quite disappointing in some aspects-nothing like as good a performance as against Huddersfield.

HalfManHalfBrewery
HalfManHalfBrewery
18 February, 2012 19:17
Agreed, we need to start winning games and fast! My concern is that we simply cannot score a second goal to kill the opposition off! Thank god we started the season so well otherwise we would really be in trouble! Lets hope we can get a result at Oldham next weekend! The stats do look dreadful for Les and the boys. A good point against the league leaders today!!!

StickManChrissyMalkin
StickManChrissyMalkin
18 February, 2012 19:23
Good result against the league leaders but this terrible run is very worrying! The players inability to kill off games is troubling! We simply cannot get that vital second goal to give us a cushion and relieve the pressure! Mind you playing 4-5-1 i'm not surprised we cannot score a second! WE sit too deep and invite the opposition on, especially at home!

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 19:27
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Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.

Were you there?

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 19:52
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Hoots Mon
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Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.

Were you there?
does the fact that he may have been there or not alter the stats he states ???? and the Fact we held high flying Charlton to a draw ! credit where it is due

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bigmart
18 February, 2012 20:06
A good result and one which for me was unexpected, goodison & taylor both had really good games.

We were the better team in the first half but they came out and got on top of us straight away in the 2nd half, we got pushed back too deep and were holding on for the point in the end.

1 win in 18 really is very worrying indeed and we really need to get a win or two soon as the pack are starting to close.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 20:08
If you were not there,you have no idea how we performed.Charlton did not perform like a top of the table team and were there for the taking.

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bigmart
18 February, 2012 20:18
In isolation its a good result but put it into the run ere currently on and its a bit diffrerent.

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 20:22
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Hoots Mon
If you were not there,you have no idea how we performed.Charlton did not perform like a top of the table team and were there for the taking.
and again for the 2nd time how does thet alter the stats Mal printed ? to me it doesn;t so why are you picking on him !? when all he has done is support TRFC ! ??????????????????????????????

Burrows
Mikey
18 February, 2012 20:25
He never said it did alter the stats. (Sm164)

He was trying to justify why it could be OK for some people to have a moan, and he's right. We sat well to deep.

A good point on the whole but could quite easily have been all three. Teams below starting to catch up now and we are in a rot. L2 bound, draw or not unless we start winning games back to back.



http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac168/total-tranmere/goodison.jpg

@gony
@gony
18 February, 2012 20:30
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@gony
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Hoots Mon
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Mal again
To those still moaning... Charlton's away record is W11, D3 L2. So 1-1 was a fine result.

Were you there?
does the fact that he may have been there or not alter the stats he states ???? and the Fact we held high flying Charlton to a draw ! credit where it is due
chat in black and whie miky

MalkinsNobblyKnees
MalkinsNobblyKnees
18 February, 2012 20:59
I thought that was a good performance against an excellent team that had some misfiring players today. Down the spine of the team - Ash, Goody, Weir, Wallace, Welsh and Brunt - we were excellent. Down the flanks maybe the difference in class showed a little but we wont be playing anyone of Charlton's quality again this season.

I'm going to place a bet on us winning our next four in a row because I'm convinced we've turned a corner. Roll on Oldham.

P.S. I don't know what Charlton's no.5 took at half time. In the first half he looked like he'd never even seen a football before. In the second half he was initiating all of their attacks.

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Matt34
18 February, 2012 21:10
A decent result all things considered and I just have to hope the goal they were awarded was justified annd not another example of referees pooping on Tranmere again.

As for McGurk, McGurk whether he avoids tackles or not, scored 3 goals in 3 consecutive games and is the only striker in the squad this season, who has shown any ability to find a bit of consistency, so he must be favoured right now.

Injuries have to some extent cost the team some points, with all the chopping and changing and therefore more chopping and changing of fit players, might not be beneficial either.

Frankly if Mcgurk avoids challenges, then that's his decision, but if he goes for two many and gets crocked for a long time, it would seriously crimp the goal tallies the team gets and they aren't getting a tonne of goals this season, so McGurk may be looking at big Enoch's woes in the past 9-10 months and knowing he might be more likely to suffer similar problems, because he's not as big and solid as Enoch and probably couldn't take some of the knocks as much as he could.

However I'm just speculating, because on Adam knows exactly what goes on in his head, except when he tells other people that is.



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 21:45
His 2 long range shots were virtually our only efforts on goal in the second half.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
18 February, 2012 21:51
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MalkinsNobblyKnees
I thought that was a good performance against an excellent team that had some misfiring players today. Down the spine of the team - Ash, Goody, Weir, Wallace, Welsh and Brunt - we were excellent. Down the flanks maybe the difference in class showed a little but we wont be playing anyone of Charlton's quality again this season.
I'm going to place a bet on us winning our next four in a row because I'm convinced we've turned a corner. Roll on Oldham.

P.S. I don't know what Charlton's no.5 took at half time. In the first half he looked like he'd never even seen a football before. In the second half he was initiating all of their attacks.

Save your money.

jade-trfc
jade-trfc
19 February, 2012 00:23
dont no how you can say they didnt perform like a top of the table team unless you have been watching them week in week out also if they didnt perfrom like a top of the table team doesnt that mean we done well to contain there pressure more so in the first half

Mal Again
Mal Again
19 February, 2012 07:26
I will try again. Before the game, and regardless as to whether anyone attended, there was just over 76% chance Charlton would win, just under 12% chance they would draw and same for a loss. The actual result, totally disregarding performance or who was watching was far less likely than a loss against Charlton. That makes it a good result.

HughJarce
HughJarce
19 February, 2012 09:00
Disappointed that we lost the lead.........when have we done anything different?!

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bigmart
19 February, 2012 09:42
Mal, chesterfield beat sheffield wednesday yesterday it can happen that teams near the bottom beat teams at the top

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TT Admin
19 February, 2012 10:35
This whole thread has me in stitches. Absolutely hilarious!

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bigmart
19 February, 2012 11:10
Sub, it was a decent result and for me unsexpected but the fact is our dismal run continues and if we dont start winning soon we will be in the bottom 4.

1 win in 18 no wins in 9 this year and 8 wins in the league all season is dismal to put it mildly.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
19 February, 2012 11:14
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Mal Again
I will try again. Before the game, and regardless as to whether anyone attended, there was just over 76% chance Charlton would win, just under 12% chance they would draw and same for a loss. The actual result, totally disregarding performance or who was watching was far less likely than a loss against Charlton. That makes it a good result.


We've drawn 1-1 against Charlton on the last 4 or 5 occasions we've played them. What are the odds of that o mathematical genius? I'd work it out myself but,in the words of a maths teacher at the school I used to go to many years ago, who got stuck trying to show us how to do the homework that nobody could fathom out'Huh,I would if I could but I can't so I shan't.''

What also were the odds of six teams below us all winning?

As I said yesterday-we stuck when we should have twisted. We played safe when we should have gone for it.

garyrov
garyrov
19 February, 2012 11:58
yes a good result 1-1 against the top of the league ,but its another 2 points droped at home ,so our record seems to be draw at hom lose away thats why we are 1 win in 18 games,so thats 5 points dropped every 2 games ,thats sorry to say is relagation and theres no good trying to stick our heads in the sand and hope other teams below us lose so we stay up again ,results went against us yesterday most picked up 3 points we drop another 2 points ,we do need to win soon ie next game and get on a bit of a run ,or the trap door will loom even larger ,so even though 1-1 with a top team is a good result but its not enough ,we need wins les and at least 4 to 5 of them ,w know he wont be sacked this season i dont know if thats a good or bad thing but after 3 saesons of scrapping down the bottom a change is needed we mustr get a ream manager in ,say thanks les for your efforts but your not and never will be a manager ,bye bye les and good luck in your next venture

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bigmart
19 February, 2012 12:49
Walsall play Scunthrope at home on tuesday, a home win and we are 3 points off the bottom 4

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BELMONT
19 February, 2012 13:00
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bigmart
Walsall play Scunthrope at home on tuesday, a home win and we are 3 points off the bottom 4


Walsall play Scunthorpe away on Tuesday not at home but a win for Walsall would still result in the gap only being THREE POINTS *LES* now it`s time to start to be panicky because the other day you stated we were not in the drop zone so we had nothing to worry about,Les that door getting nearer we need wins and fast.

SFP White in Exile
SFP White in Exile
19 February, 2012 14:19
I thought that Charlton were going win easily but the way we played in the 1st half should have yielded the goals we needed to have won the game. 2nd half we defended to deep and allowed them to get into the game. A draw was deserved against a team who top the league.
Well done boys, we will be start winning games shortly!

sincethesummerof69
sincethesummerof69
19 February, 2012 16:55
very good performance against the team running away with the league and we should have won......but no.....wait....oh yes here it comes.....moan, groan, Les blaH BLAH BLAH, relegation blah blah, doomed blah blah, boring blah blah, theyre not Real Madrid blah blah.... if I was a player logging on I would be wondering why I bother. The same whingers would still have a go if we had won 6-0. One result blah blah, still in trouble blah blah, Les was lucky blah blah........... Prozac anyone?

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bigmart
19 February, 2012 17:17
maybe the fact theat weve only won 1 out of the last 18 games doesnt bother you and the fact that we are in a relegation battle as well.

garyrov
garyrov
19 February, 2012 17:28
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SFP White in Exile
I thought that Charlton were going win easily but the way we played in the 1st half should have yielded the goals we needed to have won the game. 2nd half we defended to deep and allowed them to get into the game. A draw was deserved against a team who top the league.
Well done boys, we will be start winning games shortly!
are you saying your happy with the way things arte then i win in 18 games ,if your happy then good luck to you but i wonder if you will be happy when we are going to crew accrington barnet and other such wonderfull games next year ,i dont think so ,so yes a good result but its another 2 home points dropped and another day nearer league to ,,,be happy mate

garyrov
garyrov
19 February, 2012 17:31
sorry sfp in exile my reply qoute was for sincethe summer of69 not you mate pressed the wrong button lol

SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
20 February, 2012 07:44
This topic is too funny. Every silver lining has its cloud.

Mal Again
Mal Again
20 February, 2012 12:01
I'll try for a third time to propose that.... it was a good result.

ste24yearsafan
ste24yearsafan
20 February, 2012 12:22
This was a result that most of us would have been grateful for before kick off, I for one was expecting us to loose. The next two games are the one to judge on, if we win them both (which I don't think we will) then we are probably okay. if we loose them both action (Surely) would be taken to address the concern. I suspect we will get at least two points which will leave us as we are now.

PeteTRFC
PeteTRFC
20 February, 2012 13:23
i agree that the upcoming games are more important. Never expected to get anything from Charlton, so a point was a bonus. Defeat in the next 2 away games however is different.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
20 February, 2012 13:28
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Mal Again
I'll try for a third time to propose that.... it was a good result.

For the third time 'we stuck when we should have twisted'-it could have been a better result.

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BELMONT
20 February, 2012 13:31
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ste24yearsafan
This was a result that most of us would have been grateful for before kick off, I for one was expecting us to loose. The next two games are the one to judge on, if we win them both (which I don't think we will) then we are probably okay. if we loose them both action (Surely) would be taken to address the concern. I suspect we will get at least two points which will leave us as we are now.

I suspect if we only get two points from the next two games this will have us on 36pts.so given the next two/three games have been played the bottom could look like this.

Plyd Pts
31 Scunthorpe 37 two wins
33 Tranmere 36 two draws
33 Yeovil 36 one win
34 Exeter 36 one win
-----------------------------------------------------------
33 Walsall 34 two wins(3 games)
33 Rochdale 30 one win
34 Wycombe 29 one win
33 Chesterfield 28 one draw
This would result in Tranmere being grouped with 36 pts and only goal difference keeping us from being 20th in the league and only two points above Walsall in 21st position if we could get one win out of the next two it would put us on 37pts same as Scunthorpe but even this would still leave us only 3pts ahead of Walsall . I know it`s a bit if and may be but if the results go like my predictions the next period of two/three games with in the group shown will be crucial so by the evening of Saturday 3rd of March we will know what will have to be done during the rest of the games.Scunthorpe seem to have the best hand given they have played less games.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/02/2012 13:45 by BELMONT.

Ricci
Ricci
20 February, 2012 13:51
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sincethesummerof69
very good performance against the team running away with the league and we should have won......but no.....wait....oh yes here it comes.....moan, groan, Les blaH BLAH BLAH, relegation blah blah, doomed blah blah, boring blah blah, theyre not Real Madrid blah blah.... if I was a player logging on I would be wondering why I bother. The same whingers would still have a go if we had won 6-0. One result blah blah, still in trouble blah blah, Les was lucky blah blah........... Prozac anyone?

Same could be said of people who have their head in the sand. The wins will come blah blah, we played well blah blah, I have faith in Les and the team blah blah I also can't believe somebody is talking about percentages. Each game is different. If we all looked at percentage scenarios for every football match, what would be the point in going?

Mal again
Mal again
20 February, 2012 15:51
Not a bad result.

SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
20 February, 2012 16:10
In a way I hope that we don't win against Oldham. I don't think that I'm ready for the inevitable "TWO WINS IN 19!!!!!!" when someone comments on having enjoyed the victory. I'd have to set up some kind of padded room at home before checking the forums.

MESSAGES->author
TT Admin
20 February, 2012 22:35
Fans not wanting us to win now? That really sums things up in a nutshell for me.

SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
SprayItAboutLikeJimHarvey
20 February, 2012 23:35
It's a joke. I mean that I'm afraid of bashing my head against the wall in frustration if we win and people start saying that it's "only 2 wins in 19" instead of enjoying the victory.

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TT Admin
20 February, 2012 23:38
Fair enough mate. Finding it difficult to distinguish in general between a joke and general hatred these days on here.

Apologies!

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Matt34
21 February, 2012 22:12
If you want general hatred type stuff, ask HughJarce. I'm pretty certain he has never posted one thing on here that has been positive, about single individual or result Tranmere have had.

I seem to recall he was nowhere, when they won the first 2 games this season for the first time in a long time; nowhere when they won 3 in a row, but suddenly Tranmere lose to Cheltenham in the cup and he slunk on here with some vitriol and has skulked here ever since, sticking the boot in at anyone and anything at Tranmere (Sm7).



Then I ate his Liver.......... with some baked beans and a can of coke.

HughJarce
HughJarce
22 February, 2012 08:11
Realism I speak. Vitriol? I am less harsh that a lot of people. As someone has mentioned, everyone has an opinion. Mine is borne out of 45 years watching them and not recalling in recent memory such an appalling run of results and a 'Manager' who has taken us there accompanied by an inept Board.
I reserve the right to say what I want as long as I am not offensive. It is total frustration in what is in front of me.

I have not singled anyone out for criticism (except Les) and not spouted vitriol against anyone.

And your message against me? Vitriol?

HughJarce
HughJarce
22 February, 2012 08:13
Oh I forget to add. Seeing that you have noted when I post, which is not as much as many, are you stalking me then?

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
22 February, 2012 10:02
How do you slink or skulk on to a computer? I thought you sat in a chair and pressed a few buttons?confused smileysmiling smiley

Mal again
Mal again
22 February, 2012 19:43
There is always an 8.76894329998567432% chance that you accidentally skulk.

Hoots Mon
Hoots Mon
22 February, 2012 20:01
I'd rather purposely slink..........smileys with beer


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