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Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
28 May, 2018 06:57
UEFA defines locally-trained or 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the age of 15 and 21. Up to half of the locally-trained players must be from the club itself, with the others being either from the club itself or from other clubs in the same association.

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Above is the UEFA homegrown rule with at least 4 no. homegrown players must be from the club itself.

Our homegrown players are:
1 - Bellerin
2 - Iwobi
3 - Maitland-Niles
4 - Macey

5 - Wilshere
6 - Ramsey
7 - Chambers
8 - Holding
9 - Welbeck

If WIlshere, Ramsey, Welbeck, Iwobi and Chambers are to leave, we will need to buy 4 no. homegrown players.

Emery must balance this homegorwn rule and I can see him only selling Welbeck (to free up space for another attacker cum winger or attacking midfielder) or sell Ramsey if he refuses to sign the extension.
Wilshere?
Not too sure whether Emery will want him.

Iwobi?
Emery may keep him for at least one more season to oversee his development.


Our foreign players:
1 - Cech
2 - Ospina
3 - Koscielny
4 - Mustafi
5 - Monreal
6 - Kolasinac
7 - Xhaka
8 - ELneny
9 - Ozil
10- Mkhitaryan
11- Aubameyang
12- Lacazette
13- Perez
14- Joel Campbell

We have only 12 slots for foreigners.
Players that will move on to free up space in the squad:
1 - Ospina
2 - Mustafi
3 - Perez or brought back to replace Welbeck as a budget striker cum winger?
4 - Joel Campbell - I doubt he has a future and most likely sold.

Then, there is only 2 slots to accommodate Lichtsteiner and Sokratis.

But if Emery wishes to bring in a new goalie, there is no more slot in the 12 no. foreign players rule ... unless he get rid of Cech?

Therefore, even if Emery wishes to bring in Rabiot or Fosberg or Seri or Pellegrini or Meyer or Draxler, he must sell to free up slots in the 12-man foreign player quota.

CB?
Perhaps based on homegrown player rule, Jonny Evans is looking as the more attractive option than Sokratis.

In summary, Emery must trim his 25-man squad and sell to free up the 12-no. foregin players quota before he can buy new foreign players.



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
younghansolo (IP Logged)
28 May, 2018 08:55
I've read he's going to blood our youngsters so I think we'll be ok. Nelson, niles will get plenty of game time

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
SandyB (IP Logged)
28 May, 2018 20:06
I see from the homegrown player list at least one player will be gone most likely wilshere, should be at least 3, Welbeck n Iwobi too but unless they get very good money they won’t sell.
From the foreign players list, Ospina, Mustafi,Perez, Campbell will be gone should try to sell Montreal if can get some money n may be buy a new LB or promote someone to first team.

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
29 May, 2018 21:56
Interesting analysis.
It is not how much you spent to get into Top-4, but how astute you are in the transfer market and how many quality players you nurtured and coached into 1st team.

The fact that Arsenal are looking to sign the likes of Stephan Lichtensteiner (£0) and Sokratis Papastathopoulos (£15m) this summer is evidence of the dire financial consequences of having to play Europa League Football for what will now be two consecutive seasons. New manager Unai Emery has a quoted summer transfer pot of £50m, which appears to be reasonably accurate.

When Arsenal’s accounts were released in September last year, they demonstrated a cash balance of £180m. More in the bank than most clubs, but from that had to be subtracted debt repayments of £35m and £42.7m outstanding from transfer instalments. This brings the cash balance down to around £100m, therefore, considering a reasonable amount of operational cash flow has to be withheld, the £50m transfer spend figure seems fairly logical.

Having said that, this amount should increase by around £10m when you take into account the fact that Per Mertesacker (retired) and Santi Cazorla (left) are no longer sucking a combined £170k per week from the wage bill. Should Jack Wilshere also depart, this would add another £5m to the pot, taking Emery’s available budget to around £65m.

Of course, this amount of money doesn’t buy you much these days, and we can now see the disastrous effect that Arsene Wenger’s final few years has had on the club due to non-Champions League participation. Considering Arsenal would normally achieve Round 16 status in the CL, the club has lost out on around £106m worth of funding over two seasons.
The Europa League brings in some income, but not much. Despite going as far as the semi-final, because Arsenal lost, the club will only inherit a feeble £5.7m in prize money. Even if the Gunners were to win the Europa League in 2018/2019, the very most Arsenal could make over two seasons combined from Europa League participation is £20m. Therefore non-CL participation has denied Unai Emery a minimum of £86m in transfer funds.

In the past, I have released Arsenal’s wage bill and thought about doing that this summer too. However, I’ve come to realise that this is largely a waste of time. Wage bills are made up of many wildly variable factors. Theoretically, the truest comparison would be between first team player wages only – as it’s on the pitch where spend might most easily be equitable. However, even that comparison is questionable due to the fact that very wealthy clubs end up paying disproportionately higher transfer fees and wages. This distortion means you cannot accurately discern whether a club is getting true value for players no much how they spend, and fails altogether to include the impact of world-class managers like Klopp, Guardiola or a manager that punches well above his weight like Pochettino.

On the positive side, this shows there is still plenty of room for a club like Arsenal to improve and advance despite having a relatively limited transfer budget. Indeed, one only has to look at Tottenham who have managed to usurp Arsenal by achieving CL qualification on half the commercial revenues, with a £250k transfer deficit in 2017/18 (compared to Arsenal’s £15m profit) and a wage bill closer to Burnley than their North London neighbours.
Over to you Emery.
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Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 19:19
This just lena weight to the fact that champions league qualification is vital if the owner is not going to put their money and also the importance of scouting network.

Our scouting let us down big time since 2010 or so

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 01:22
Our foreign players:
1 - Cech
2 - Ospina
3 - Koscielny
4 - Mustafi
5 - Monreal
6 - Kolasinac
7 - Xhaka
8 - ELneny
9 - Ozil
10- Mkhitaryan
11- Aubameyang
12- Lacazette
13- Perez
14- Joel Campbell
15- Lichtsteiner
16- Sokratis or Jonny Evans?
17- 22 year old Caglar Soyuncu?
18- NZonzi or Seri or Rabiot or another DCM?
19- a winger?
20- a goalie?

We have only 12 slots for foreigners.
Players that will move on to free up space in the squad:
1 - Ospina
2 - Mustafi
3 - Perez or brought back to replace Welbeck as a budget striker cum winger?
4 - Joel Campbell - I doubt he has a future and most likely sold.

Then, there is only 2 slots to accommodate 6 no. new signings.
Who are the 8 no. foreign players we get rid off to accommodate 6 no. new signings?

Therefore, I am not getting my hope high that we will sign more than 2 new players without ripping out the core of Arsene Wenger's Team to start the rebuilding process.

Look more likely that Emery will start an evolution instead of a revolution to rebuild Arsenal FC.



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 10:18
Basically he will have to clear out the@#$%&what Wenger left us with first.



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Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 00:22
Oops ... the squad should be 8 no. homegrown players and 17 no. foreign players = 25-man squad.

By giving the no. 1 jersey to Cech, I believe he will stay for one more season.
We need that stability.

Ospina?
With a new goalie coach, it is a no-brainer that he can be persuade to stay on if promises more game time ... unless he is willing to move and buyer can afford his salary.

CB?
Doubt Mustafi will move on since even Inter cannot match his salary.

Lichtstiener?
An excellent back-up with no transfer fee involvement.

Sokratis or Jonny Evans?
Perhaps he will go for Evans at 3-mil and to fulfil the 8 no. homegrown players quota.

Other than that, I see Emery can afford to buy only 1 no. DCM or winger with his 70-mil budget.

And Gazidis will push him to promote youngsters like Maitland-Niles, Nketiah, Nelson, Joe Willock, Ben Sheaf and Macy to fill up the gaps left by departing players.

Let's not get our hope too high.
It is just that Emery cannot sign new players until he can sell and find a slot for new players in his 8 no. homegrown player quota.

And if FA and UEFA has its way, it may increase from 8 no. to 12 no. homegrown player quota soon.

Our homegrown players are:
1 - Bellerin
2 - Iwobi
3 - Maitland-Niles
4 - Macey

5 - Wilshere
6 - Ramsey
7 - Chambers
8 - Holding
9 - Welbeck

If Chambers, Ramsey, Wilshere and Welbeck are leaving, then we have only 5 no. homegrown players.



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
SandyB (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 00:44
Homegrown players aren’t issue merl, they can always dump some from their B team some players to replace the departing players. The issue is how much they can get by selling Chambers, welbeck.

 
Re: Are we in trouble with 8 no. homegrown players rule next season?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 16:09
But watching them from last season, apparently only AMN is ready to stake a regular spot in senior team.

Nelson, Nketiah, WIllock and Sheaf are not ready.

Loan returnees - Akpom, Mavididi, Martinez - are they ready?



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford


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