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I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:20
In my 29 years, I have done quite a few rather stupid things.

In 2017, I accepted an invitiation by a quintet of Quebec-based West African gangsters to smoke weed in a car, and genuinely feared for my life during the ordeal. In 2005, I p*ssed against the window of a police station in broad daylight prior to a Metallica concert. In 1996 or 1997, I picked up a syringe on a beach during an outing with the Cub Scouts.

Point is, my judgement fails me at the best of times - you could probably chalk that last one down to a bit of childish naievity - but for my next trick I'll be doing something so unbelievable, something so outrageous, something thicker than Nutella: I'm backing Arsenal to qualify for the top four.

Wenger claimed today that it remains his goal and, although it seems completely ludicrous when you consider our form, I can't ignore the 22/1 for a number of reasons. It's not quite a free odd as De Times would say, but I do believe there's quite a lot of value there and let me tell you why.

1) After Manchester City tomorrow, six of our next seven Premier League games are against teams in the bottom half - Brighton, Watford, Stoke, Southampton, Newcastle and West Ham. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, 'Shane, I wouldn't back us to beat any of those' and you're right, because neither would I on current form, but is our form about to improve?

2) We all think Arsenal are done under Wenger, and that's entirely plausible because Sunday was pathetic on so many different levels, but if the modern history of Arsenal has taught us anything it's that no matter how much it looks like the end, it genuinely never is.

I mean, if you wanted to you could find similar 'this is the end' moments in probably four of the last six seasons, but whether it's bouncing back from a 3-0 defeat at Palace by beating City and Chelsea to win the FA Cup, or clawing back a 12-point deficit on Tottenham to finish in the top four, results do pick up in a major way in times like these and if they do so again, is a top-four finish that unlikely when you consider our fixture list?

3) Tottenham and Liverpool are both one injury away from complete disaster, whereas Chelsea really aren't that much better than us.

It might not be tomorrow, but we're going to go on a good run pretty soon. That 22/1 is overpriced in my view and I think it'll be slashed on a gradual basis over the coming weeks and months.

I'll post a photo of the docket when it's done.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
PKGooner (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:30
No.

This prediction even more disastrous than the time you accidentally sliced your balls.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
MattySadler (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:51
Good luck mate.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:55
Quote:
PKGooner
No.
This prediction even more disastrous than the time you accidentally sliced your balls.

There is plenty of value here PK. Ask Flava, Celine or De Times.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:55
Quote:
MattySadler
Good luck mate.

Who needs luck when you have logic and a knowledge of how Arsenal historically respond to crisis.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
MattySadler (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 16:35
We'll see!

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 16:37
Wenger is finished and so are we under his management. The demise has been getting worse and worse for well over a decade to the point now we are a top 6 side, at best.

We have have lost half of our away games already (7 out of 14) and only won 3 (out of those 14). That form and this manager will never land us a top 4 spot again.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 17:04
Official confirmation of this investment (because that's what it is) will have to wait until tomorrow, because my local turf accounts is closed and there's a deposit limit on my PP account which I don't want to waste on a bet that can't be settled for another three months, but rest assure your deterring words will have no affect. I'm certain that it's a very good bet.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
younghansolo (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 17:22
I've been thinking for a couple of weeks of a cheeky bet on us making CL. Still think it's doable, if extremely unlikely. I have some faith in Pierre to get us the goals to give us a shot.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 17:25
Quote:
In my 29 years. I have done quite a few rather stupid things.
The worst thing happened to you growing up in la la Land!! (Sm22)

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 17:30
Quote:
younghansolo
I've been thinking for a couple of weeks of a cheeky bet on us making CL. Still think it's doable, if extremely unlikely. I have some faith in Pierre to get us the goals to give us a shot.
That's the backdoor route by winning Europa league, possible.. probably one or two teams are slightly better than Arsenal but I'd advise putting money against it, simple reason Wenger n his team can't perform under real pressure on a fixed target of winning a trophy or bust. Not gonna happen, there are much easier bets with better odds.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Bergmars (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 18:26
Think you've had too much of that weed mate



A shadow of what we were

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 19:35
Quote:
younghansolo
I've been thinking for a couple of weeks of a cheeky bet on us making CL. Still think it's doable, if extremely unlikely. I have some faith in Pierre to get us the goals to give us a shot.

We're a pretty good team with a bit of momentum at our backs, like any team in fairness, but there's a lot of points there for us in the coming weeks.

This bet pretty much hinges on two things: a) Arsenal going on a winning streak which, as I said, tend to follow these kind of crisis and b) any two of Spurs, Liverpool or Chelsea enduring a rough period.

So there's a few things which need to go in my favour, but sorry, 22/1 is such a worthwhile bet.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 20:28
The last time Arsenal lost the lge cup final under Wenger they only won three of the last remaining games. There is no run left in Wenger teams. There is no consistency and no hope whilst Lord Stumblebum remains



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
PKGooner (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 20:55
Quote:
younghansolo
I've been thinking for a couple of weeks of a cheeky bet on us making CL. Still think it's doable, if extremely unlikely. I have some faith in Pierre to get us the goals to give us a shot.

The way Wenger sets us up, Aubameyang (and Lacazette when playing) may as well not be on the pitch. It's like playing with 10 men. They get about 5 touches per half, never mind any clear cut chances.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 21:14
I think he'll get a lot more touches against teams who aren't City or Spurs PK.

Worth also mentioning that City and United are, on paper, the only really difficult games we have left. I say 'on paper' because a lot of games from now until May won't be easy, even the teams we ought to be hammering, but it's a handy last 10 or 11 games.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 21:23
I think this season we had won only 3 away games.

we have 5 more away games and must win all of them if we are to make it into Top-4:
- away to Brighton
- away to Leicester
- away to Newcastle
- away to ManU
- away to Huddersfield

- Man city (h)
- Watford (h)
- Stoke (h)
- Saints (h)
- WHU (h)
- Burnley (h)

How many wins do you fancy we will pick up?

That is, to have a sniff of a chance for Top-4, we must win 9 games and draw the other 2 games to collect 29 points.
Total points = 45 + 29 = 74 points, enough to regain Top-4 status?



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 21:35
We will finsh 6th.

However knowing Wenger, we might somehow win Europa and that will revert everything back to normal, just like how we won the FA Cup last season.



http://i.imgur.com/b1SeVpw.png

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 12:25
http://i67.tinypic.com/2a7sghe.jpg

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 12:37
You will never know ...

Either you are thick as a plank or has the rub of the green ...



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 13:15
Either I'm thick as a plank or a bonafide betting genius comparable only to De Times.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/03/2018 13:16 by Shane.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 16:36
Mate there's more chance of Lord Lucan riding into the Emirates with his pet Dodo on Shergar tonight, than us making top 4.

You're forgetting we are s.hit and have a completely incompetent manager.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 17:29
I haven't forgotten either element pal, but as incompotent as he may be, there really is no denying that he has been able to get a response from the players when his job is under serious, serious threat.

Question is, will the players bounce back for him again? Who the f*ck knows, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least because in years gone by that has been the case and, with our fixture list, we just aren't out of the race if he gets another response from them.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SA-Gunner (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 18:04
I can't see us beating Milan. They are a team on the up, while we're going down and haven't hit bottom yet lol.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
hahanice (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 19:20
so stupid...

and you have done some dumb things yes...

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Flava (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 20:53
How’s that bet looking mate? F.uck me.

I hope it comes in for you but seriously....

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Flava (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 20:54
Penalty mate, it’s back on

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Flava (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 20:55
It’s not on again now

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 20:58
Dang dang... another 3-0!! (Sm6)
Anyway, he spent the money to show in Arsene he trusts!! (Sm22)
Dumbo!!

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 21:54
Quote:
Shane
Either I'm thick as a plank or a bonafide betting genius comparable only to De Times.

You are betting a trend that we always go on a run in March/April/May to salvage the season, and hoping Man City beats ManU, Chelski, Liverpool and Tiny Totts.

Plus Tony Totts and Liverpool having a mini-slump during Easter Weekend.



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 22:36
Quote:
Flava
How’s that bet looking mate? F.uck me.
I hope it comes in for you but seriously....

It's no more stupid or less realistic than it was yesterday Flava. Avoiding defeat tonight would've been a bonus but I've been working off the assumption that we'd be 10 points behind and that remains the case.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
01 March, 2018 22:39
Quote:
Merlion96
You are betting a trend that we always go on a run in March/April/May to salvage the season, and hoping Man City beats ManU, Chelski, Liverpool and Tiny Totts.
Plus Tony Totts and Liverpool having a mini-slump during Easter Weekend.

I said that already mate.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
MattySadler (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 07:45
Nice of Merl to recap for us though.

Previously on Shane's betting thread...

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 08:08
Quote:
Shane
Quote:
Flava
How’s that bet looking mate? F.uck me.
I hope it comes in for you but seriously....

It's no more stupid or less realistic than it was yesterday Flava. Avoiding defeat tonight would've been a bonus but I've been working off the assumption that we'd be 10 points behind and that remains the case.

Were you also working off the assumption that our team is f.ucking s.hit and the manager completely deluded and incompetent?



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
younghansolo (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 10:09
We will likely lose to United because we always do. But other than that, I think we'll get something form every other game. Think there could be a few draws in there though.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 10:28
LOL we are finished under Wenger, even the DeTimes and Ty's from AFTV know it.

Of course we may win a few games, but which games I honestly couldn't tell you because we're capable of dropping points and losing ANY game. That is the reality, it doesn't matter whether it's a relegation battling team, Nottingham Forest or a Swedish pub side at home, the facts are we can and are losing these games.

Gone are the days when there was actually some excitement in supporting Arsenal and going to places like Old Trafford or the like with an "I fancy us there" mentality. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Brighton turn us over on Sunday FFS.

That is what that parasite Wenger has turned this club into. It's pathetic.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 19:15
Quote:
younghansolo
We will likely lose to United because we always do. But other than that, I think we'll get something form every other game. Think there could be a few draws in there though.

The United match is about seven weeks away. Between now and then we could feasibly put a big dent in that 10-point gap.

We don't have to be as good as Spurs, Liverpool or Chelsea - we just have to be better than the team we play week by week.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 21:40
Quote:
MattySadler
Nice of Merl to recap for us though.
Previously on Shane's betting thread...

Shane is betting we can go 9 wins 1 draw and string together a run during wintry months.

Spring is not here yet where we actually can go on a run.

Even the weather is against Arsene Wenger and we will draw or lose a few games during current artic conditions.

Arsene Wenger's teams usually go on a run during spring and not before.

Why Shane will lose his bet is simply global warming had shifted winter right into March.



"Coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is a success.”
Henry Ford

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Nikfonso (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 22:14
Why didn't you wait until after yesterday's game Shane, odds are even bigger now!?



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Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 22:23
Quote:
Merlion96
Quote:
MattySadler
Nice of Merl to recap for us though.
Previously on Shane's betting thread...

Shane is betting we can go 9 wins 1 draw and string together a run during wintry months.

Spring is not here yet where we actually can go on a run.

Even the weather is against Arsene Wenger and we will draw or lose a few games during current artic conditions.

Arsene Wenger's teams usually go on a run during spring and not before.

Why Shane will lose his bet is simply global warming had shifted winter right into March.

Nope, coz he's new DeTimes.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
02 March, 2018 23:48
Quote:
Merlion96
Shane is betting we can go 9 wins 1 draw and string together a run during wintry months.
Spring is not here yet where we actually can go on a run.

Even the weather is against Arsene Wenger and we will draw or lose a few games during current artic conditions.

Arsene Wenger's teams usually go on a run during spring and not before.

Why Shane will lose his bet is simply global warming had shifted winter right into March.

No we usually go on a run when the season is on the brink of being a complete write-off Merl, which it is at the moment. The month has nothing to do with it. In 2012 we won seven in a row from early February to late March.

Quote:
Nikfonso
Why didn't you wait until after yesterday's game Shane, odds are even bigger now!?

Good question Nik. Basically, defeat wouldn't have changed the odds that much (it's only moved to 25/1 since) but the 22/1 would've gone way, way down had we won for example. So waiting until after the game was a gamble in itself and one that didn't really make sense to me.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
03 March, 2018 01:02
Quote:
MattySadler
Nice of Merl to recap for us though.
Previously on Shane's betting thread...

(Sm6) missed this.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
younghansolo (IP Logged)
03 March, 2018 19:17
Without playing yet, it's already been a terrible weekend for Arsenal.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
03 March, 2018 19:24
Well today the odd should be 30/1 even before Arsenal playing. The difference of points between 4 th place Spuds n Arsenal is 13 points n they have only 9 games to play against Arsenal 10 to play. As all of them have better goal difference effectively it’s actually 15 points difference. So they have to loss at least 5 games out of 9 to drop off the top 4 spot n Chelsea who is 8 points clear at this time of Arsenal has to loss 3 more games than Arsenal by end of season not to take up the slip up of current 4th sport team!! Sounds like a plan, new DeTimes!! (Sm6)
All the best for Arsene Wenger’s podium clinching, AKB happy minnows beating run till end of the season!! (Sm22)

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 02:17
We can beat the minnows of we play like we did against city.
But looking at the speech episode, the players it looks like won't put the effort. That's precisely the reason we see appalling away day efforts. In taking about effort not quality of performance or the results.

It looks as if they were trying only because of the fans and at away days they just can't be arsed to play for arsene anymore.

Its a sad and bitter end



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2018 15:36 by CazOnARola.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
PKGooner (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 15:24
Good start mate.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 15:26
I was looking for this thread after todays match. lol



http://i.imgur.com/b1SeVpw.png

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 15:44
KInda dumb you meant?

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 17:01
Quote:
PKGooner
Good start mate.

The bet starts for the Watford game mate. Said this all along.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
hahanice (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 17:07
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 17:13
Quote:
Shane
Quote:
PKGooner
Good start mate.

The bet starts for the Watford game mate. Said this all along.

I suspect the collective sense of humour around here might be at an all-time low, but I should stress in advance that this was a joke.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
SandyB (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 17:23
Quote:
Shane
Quote:
Shane
Quote:
PKGooner
Good start mate.

The bet starts for the Watford game mate. Said this all along.

I suspect the collective sense of humour around here might be at an all-time low, but I should stress in advance that this was a joke.
Not really rather AKB joke.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 21:05
http://i64.tinypic.com/s3d7dg.jpg

I've trebled my outlay, so no harm done, but yes the top four bet is looking very bad right about now. I still find it very difficult to rule out a resurgence, but realistically it had to happen today for the bet to stand any chance at all.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Shane (IP Logged)
08 March, 2018 20:24
http://i64.tinypic.com/vhqh4p.jpg

I'm cleaning up on these c*nts.

 
Re: I'm doing something potentially very stupid
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
11 March, 2018 21:41
The 24-year-old, who is currently tied in the race for the Golden Boot with Mohamed Salah, was replaced by Erik Lamela and headed straight down the tunnel. Sky Sports spoke to Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino at half-time and he said Kane’s injury is ‘in his right ankle, possibly ligaments, similar to the injury sustained against Sunderland last season’. Kane missed almost two months of the 2016-17 campaign with the same injury on his right ankle. Speaking after Tottenham’s emphatic win, Pochettino confirmed Kane would be sent for a scan on his ankle on Monday.

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ALL you need is another Liverpool end-of-season spectacular collapse.

Chelski?
Conte is savvy enough not to allow his side to collapse now.

All that is left to us is to laugh at Tiny Totts joining us at UEL Cup.


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