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Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
kickitkeith (IP Logged)
08 September, 2017 20:57
Article says Sebastian Rudy to bayern is the best free transfer but it has to be the Bosnian beast for me! Thoughts? Can see him becoming the best left back in the league in the near future and to get him for free is great business - kudos to Wenger for that.


https://rushfootball.co.uk/2017/09/08/the-good-the-bad-and-the-free-part-3/

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Flava (IP Logged)
08 September, 2017 23:12
The worst will be Sagna and/or Senderos when we sign them soon. We all know it will happen

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
08 September, 2017 23:37
It won't matter if Wenger keeps him on the bench or plays him as a CB.



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Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
09 September, 2017 00:19
I've seen him miss simple passes every game he has played and also seen him be very adventurous and leave his position a lot.
I've tended ignore the things when players first arrived but then see those players still doing it. Alexis (passing) and xhaka (positional discipline) are the ones in talking about.
He may well be good, but I've a sinking feeling he's gonna be like santossad smiley. From whatever i saw in the first 2 games he played, I'm inclined to play monreal unless there's a solid merchant on his wing.

He will probably do ok as a wing back but not sure about LB in a back 4

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 09:29
Looks trash to me

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 09:50
Not to sure about his defending.
But then again we don't defend .



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Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 10:07
He is good attacking, but, I sit quite near pitch level, yesterday I saw him making quite a few errors in defence. A better team than Bournemouth would have exploited them.
However, its early days yet, he needs to time to get up to the pace of the prem, its a bit pointless judging players after they have played 2 or 3 games.



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
younghansolo (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 11:32
I'm amazed we haven't been linked with Sagna yet

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Shane (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 14:20
Wenger could sign an in-prime Paolo Maldini tomorrow and I'm convinced he wouldn't be a huge improvement on Kieran Gibbs.

As a result, it's hard to judge defenders under Wenger these days. You never really know if they're sh*t or just look sh*t because they're in a system not famed for its defending.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 16:44
It's another reason Kos is such a good defender because he has generally managed to look good in a c.rap system and under a manager who hasn't got the first clue how to coach a defence.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 17:03
Quote:
Shane
Wenger could sign an in-prime Paolo Maldini tomorrow and I'm convinced he wouldn't be a huge improvement on Kieran Gibbs.
As a result, it's hard to judge defenders under Wenger these days. You never really know if they're sh*t or just look sh*t because they're in a system not famed for its defending.



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Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 17:30
Yeah defensive drilling is a pbm for the team as whole but when you see people make decisions to pass, where to pass, etc one can gauge.
His crossing and picking out players is good when he had the time. But he miss places simple passes and lacks defensive discipline from whatever i can.
Also if winger s isolate him one v one on the byline, they can get a lot of joy. That last thing was what gibbs was better than monreal. One v one, using his recovery pace and in general

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
litmus (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 17:41
Quote:
BootyDaddy
It's another reason Kos is such a good defender because he has generally managed to look good in a c.rap system and under a manager who hasn't got the first clue how to coach a defence.

The fact that we play an attacking system with hardly any protection from the midfield and the team is not build around the defends is more prove that Koscielny is a top defender. How many times has he stopped quick counter attacks and won one on ones and cleared the lines when the team was exposed (which is a lot of times).

I am sure Kos would have much better stats and contribute to more clean sheets if he was playing for Juve, Stoke or any of Pulis teams.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
De Times (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 18:09
He's the best tackler in the team already.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
10 September, 2017 23:17
Sagna would be a more useful player. Would instantly become the best defender at the club.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 00:18
He is 35 in February



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 04:28
Quote:
De Times
He's the best tackler in the team already.
Lets not exaggerate. All the other 3 are better. Koshielny, mustafi, even bellerin with his better recovery pace. He's physically a presence and has good shooting/crossing ability which is very imp for a wing back.
But he lacks positional discipline and will be found out against tricky singers wingers.
One v One, gibbs was our best after cole and clichy

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 05:56
Quote:
Padre Pio
He is 35 in February

Would still be the best defender at the club, especially as a CB in the back 3.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
djarse (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 10:29
Kolasinac apparently had the highest number of assists for a defender in the Bundesliga last season.....

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 11:32
Quote:
Goofle
Quote:
Padre Pio
He is 35 in February

Would still be the best defender at the club, especially as a CB in the back 3.

I know you love to be different, but lets not chat too much nonsense ay.

Sagna was good in his day but is old and way past it now, hence why he was only a bit part player for City for the last 3 years and then released.

Also why he's still a free agent and nobody wants him now.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
younghansolo (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 12:16
I suspect the reason he's still a free agency is money. He will only want to earn big money or play for a big team. Most big teams won't bring in a defender for a season unless they are desperate and all the other teams that would take him would want to pay him a lot less.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Gunnersingh1 (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 13:39
I'd bring Sagna in ASAP. Not As a full back as a CB, he's a perfect player for 3 at the back, plus he's not a wimp like most of our players!

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 13:42
Quote:
younghansolo
I suspect the reason he's still a free agency is money. He will only want to earn big money or play for a big team. Most big teams won't bring in a defender for a season unless they are desperate and all the other teams that would take him would want to pay him a lot less.

Under that criteria, he’d have gone to China or America then but it would appear he’s not still the superstar some believe him to be at nearly 35 years old.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 15:38
A so called big club and some think we should bring Sagna back.
Get real folks.



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Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Bergmars (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 19:19
Quote:
Gunnersingh1
I'd bring Sagna in ASAP. Not As a full back as a CB, he's a perfect player for 3 at the back, plus he's not a wimp like most of our players!
I'd have him back as well.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Gunnersingh1 (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 19:31
Quote:
Boston Gooner
A so called big club and some think we should bring Sagna back.
Get real folks.

Beggars can't be chooses. We've got shite like mustafi playing CB for us.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Bergmars (IP Logged)
11 September, 2017 20:46
Good cover across the back four Hector could learn a lot



DB10,the best.



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Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
litmus (IP Logged)
12 September, 2017 06:07
Quote:
Boston Gooner
A so called big club and some think we should bring Sagna back.
Get real folks.

I don't think bringing Sagna back as cover is a bad idea. He can sign a one year deal, and he is one of the most versatile defenders around, and like someone says he is a no-nonsense type. Never seen him monkey around at the back. He is at ease in every position - RB, CB, LB. With our record with injuries and suspensions, a defensive crisis is very likely down the road. And with 2 and a half days between Europa and the weekend games, the need for rotation is crucial.

And since we play 3 at the back, someone who is very good across the back four can be important to have. Its not a big signing, its a "cover". As a big club, why not have someone proven and experienced as cover?

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
13 September, 2017 05:11
Agreed litmus. And we might need cover very soon as we seem to be stuck with 3 at the back. More teams coming around to 3 at the back as well now

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
13 September, 2017 13:59
We should never have let Sagna go. Our best defender in the second half of the Wenger era.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
13 September, 2017 15:07
^ He wanted to go.

All our top players end up wanting to leave when they realise the club has no ambition, the manager is incompetent and they will earn more elsewhere.

I mean when has Wenger EVER talked one of our top players in to staying after they say they want to leave?

Viera, Henry, Adebayor, Nasri. Fabregas, RVP, Sagna, Ox.

To name a few.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
13 September, 2017 16:10
Ox was dead wood. Couldn't care less about him going anywhere.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Shane (IP Logged)
13 September, 2017 18:00
Oxlade-Chamberlain will join West Brom or Palace on loan next summer, Wilfried Zaha's replacement or some @#$%&.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 14:20
One player that big clubs would have been interested in was Kos in his prime. His Achilles probably got in the way and so wenger got him to sign on. The other was theo who was in scintillating form and ppl were singing sign da ting

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Flava (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 22:16
Quote:
Goofle
Looks trash to me

That means he must be awesome πŸ‘

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
grayfox1 (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 22:58
Quote:
Flava
Quote:
Goofle
Looks trash to me

That means he must be awesome πŸ‘

grinning smiley

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
14 September, 2017 23:02
I didn't comment on that because with Ramsey's performances I figured he must be joking.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
15 September, 2017 11:15
He does look trash.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Flava (IP Logged)
15 September, 2017 12:23
We don't know if he can defend but he's got it going forward, no doubt about that.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
15 September, 2017 12:47
He is good at crossing and has a sweet left foot and magus good runs. His passing is still suspect trust me. He misses simple balls every game.
Defensively in sl on the fence. He hasn't been under much pressure thsts yet.
This weekend we will know.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
16 September, 2017 10:48
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Goofle
He does look trash.

Come on, your need to be different is embarrassing sometimes.

Kolasinac was voted best LB in Germany last season. That obviously doesn't happen if you're 'trash' and he simply isnt if you actually watch him as he's been impressive so far considering he's only just joined.

You certainly haven't got a lot of credibility in calling good players trash anyway, especially when blindly insisting Ramsey is the next coming of Pele and lets not forget good ol' Denilson who you (and only you) was adamant was actually a good player.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Goofle (IP Logged)
16 September, 2017 13:19
He looks trash to me.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
grayfox1 (IP Logged)
16 September, 2017 21:01
Sooo...

Quote:
Flava
That means he must be awesome πŸ‘

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
De Times (IP Logged)
18 September, 2017 09:32
Quote:
CazOnARola
Quote:
De Times
He's the best tackler in the team already.
Lets not exaggerate. All the other 3 are better. Koshielny, mustafi, even bellerin with his better recovery pace. He's physically a presence and has good shooting/crossing ability which is very imp for a wing back.
But he lacks positional discipline and will be found out against tricky singers wingers.
One v One, gibbs was our best after cole and clichy

He only just started playing for us, saying he lacks positional discipline on the back of very few games in a new league and a new team is just unfair.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
Flava (IP Logged)
18 September, 2017 09:46
Quote:
De Times
Quote:
CazOnARola
Quote:
De Times
He's the best tackler in the team already.
Lets not exaggerate. All the other 3 are better. Koshielny, mustafi, even bellerin with his better recovery pace. He's physically a presence and has good shooting/crossing ability which is very imp for a wing back.
But he lacks positional discipline and will be found out against tricky singers wingers.
One v One, gibbs was our best after cole and clichy

He only just started playing for us, saying he lacks positional discipline on the back of very few games in a new league and a new team is just unfair.

Not as unfair as when you said Lacazette was at the level of Sanogo or Akpom.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
CazOnARola (IP Logged)
19 September, 2017 09:04
Quote:
De Times
Quote:
CazOnARola
Quote:
De Times
He's the best tackler in the team already.
Lets not exaggerate. All the other 3 are better. Koshielny, mustafi, even bellerin with his better recovery pace. He's physically a presence and has good shooting/crossing ability which is very imp for a wing back.
But he lacks positional discipline and will be found out against tricky singers wingers.
One v One, gibbs was our best after cole and clichy

He only just started playing for us, saying he lacks positional discipline on the back of very few games in a new league and a new team is just unfair.
Ok let me correct my comment. His body shape is nt right when defending one v one. It's better than santos but not better than gibbs or monreal.
That is exactly the reason he had to commit that foul late on.
But i dont see this as a regular pbm if u are playing 3 at the back. But he could have been sent off for the second challenge had he not been yellow carded a minute back, which made the ref generous



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19/09/2017 19:28 by CazOnARola.

 
Re: Kolasinac the best free transfer of the summer?
djarse (IP Logged)
19 September, 2017 17:13
Another take on Kolasinac here in the Guardian today:

[www.theguardian.com]

I agree with the article - I think he is an excellent addition to the squad


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