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It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 16:43
“I am manager of Arsenal Football Club. As long as I manager of Arsenal Football Club I will decide what happens on the technical front. That’s it.”
It’s impossible to look at those comments and see them as anything other than Wenger laying down the law.
They are the words of a manager who for the first time in 20 years is feeling threatened, of a manager who knows there is someone at the club looking to wrestle power away from him.

He is saying, either we continue to do things my way - or I’m off.
Normally it will be career suicide to take on a chief executive, but this is Arsene Wenger and this is Arsenal.
For the Frenchman to openly mock the idea of such an appointment he has to be very confident that he retains the backing of the majority shareholder Stan Kroenke, a man who hasn’t been seen or heard from in a long time.

So where does this leave Gazidis? If he is unable to force his plans through this summer his position would be bordering on untenable.
Rumours have been rife about how frustrated the American has grown at Arsenal this year. There were whispers that he had been on the verge of quitting just a couple of months ago, whispers that was brushed off as ‘rubbish’ by Arsenal.
But if Wenger gets his way and the club carries on as normal, then Gazidis will have every right to question his position. What is the point of a chief executive who doesn’t have any power?
Arsenal is a club crying out for a shake-up behind the scenes. It needs reinvigorating, it needs a fresh approach.

[www.football.london]

Interesting summer.

Either Gazidis gets his way to appoint a Director of Football or Wenger gets his way and that leaves Gazidis effectively emasculated as a CEO and surely he will leave then.

The cat is out of the bag.
And all our ills and woes for the past 12 seasons are effectively lie at the door of one petit Hitler at Emirates.
It is beyond reasonable doubt that the Board is bending over backwards and effectively let just one deluded and arrogant pillock running the club as a profitable business corporation nd no more a football club which put its fans and supporters first and foremost.

Instead, it is the fiduciary duty of an Executive Vice-President (Football Operation) to maximize revenues and profits to his shareholder that is his primary responsibility and not winning glories and silverwares for the fans.

If they are decent and honorable man with a sense of pride in their works, Gazidis and Sir Chip should just walk away from Arsenal Holdings plc in the summer if they continue to bend over and get shaft by this pillock.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2017 18:54 by Padre Pio.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way?
MattySadler (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 16:48
Control freak.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way?
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 16:50
In 2016, talk was all about how Dortmund could keep hold of Europe’s hippest young coach when the continent's super-rich clubs came calling. Now, public disagreements mean he’s on the verge of a brisk departure.

Borussia Dortmund are facing the very real possibility of needing a new head coach in the summer - and not because they can’t keep other clubs at bay. The relationship between Thomas Tuchel and the club from North Rhine-Westphalia is strained to the point of no return as months of sparring finally approaches a knockout decision.

Tuchel guided Dortmund to the best runners-up finish in Bundesliga history, scoring more goals than any other team

Brought in to take a stagnating Dortmund team to the next level in 2015, Tuchel broke records in his first season in charge. The now-43-year-old guided BVB to the best runners-up finish in Bundesliga history; his team scored more goals than any other while going unbeaten at home in the league (still the case as his second season ends). They also made the German Cup final.
It was a start beyond expectations. Dortmund were building something.

Read more at [www.fourfourtwo.com]


Thomas Tuchel may be tempted to join Arsenal FC to take up the challenge to turn around Arsenal FC like he did at Dortmund after Klopp left.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way?
SandyB (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 18:23
Fake news and drama.
Gazidis isn't American he isn't frustrated. He reports to Wenger, Wenger reports to no one but manages the interest of Stan Kroenke. Rest of the people's name on Arsenal payroll are no shows.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 18:56
I dont think it is fake news. Wenger clearly angry over restructuring, and his claim that he deosnt know what an SD is, is ludicrous.
This could be a battle to the death



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
SandyB (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 22:44
Quote:
Padre Pio
I dont think it is fake news. Wenger clearly angry over restructuring, and his claim that he deosnt know what an SD is, is ludicrous.
This could be a battle to the death
lol padre, you are still holding your breath hoping someone could deal with Wenger, there is no such dispute at Arsenal everyone knows where they stand, even if they appoint a sporting director which I doubt they ever will as long as Wenger runs the show rest are his puppets.
100% fake news!

I mean think about it when replacing the manager could be easiest solution why they have to bring in SD giving a new contract to him? Even the dumbest of asses wouldn't make such decisions unless they are trying a hogwash.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
09 May, 2017 23:02
Wenger didn't react as if it's fake news. If it was he would have said so.
Wenger might not be the loser, it might be Gazidis who loses. In that case if had any self respect he would leave. I think that Wenger,s reaction has validated the story, his reply was code for Phuk you Ivan.
Kroenke may be forced to decide between either backing his CEO or his manager.



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 00:26
Quote:
SandyB
Quote:
Padre Pio
I dont think it is fake news. Wenger clearly angry over restructuring, and his claim that he deosnt know what an SD is, is ludicrous.
This could be a battle to the death
lol padre, you are still holding your breath hoping someone could deal with Wenger, there is no such dispute at Arsenal everyone knows where they stand, even if they appoint a sporting director which I doubt they ever will as long as Wenger runs the show rest are his puppets.
100% fake news!

I mean think about it when replacing the manager could be easiest solution why they have to bring in SD giving a new contract to him? Even the dumbest of asses wouldn't make such decisions unless they are trying a hogwash.

Sandy, the deafening silence from Gazidis on Wenger for the past months said it all.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 00:34
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been told he must accept a radical overhaul of his backroom staff and the structure of the club if he wants to remain in charge for another two years, sources close to the club have told ESPN FC.

Sources have said that the delay in making a decision on the future of Wenger, who is out of contract in the summer, has been due to an internal move to try and ease the control he has built up over his two decades in charge.

Wenger may be reluctant to loosen his grip on control at Arsenal if he is to stay, having ruled out the possibility of the club hiring a sporting director as long as he remains manager.

Arsenal chairman Sir Chips Keswick and chief executive Ivan Gazidis have embarked on a project that is looking towards a future after Wenger's departure as they aim to put together a new structure for the club.

Wenger has been told that Arsenal want to revamp the club's scouting setup and have a new department that is not controlled solely by the manager.

They are also looking at the possibility of hiring a director of football to take over some of the duties Wenger has assumed since the departure of David Dein from the role of vice-chairman at Arsenal a decade ago.

Wenger has held talks over changes to his coaching staff, with club officials keen to see their manager have less of an overall influence.

Club officials are also determined to make some statement signings to quell fan unrest in a summer that could see the departures of key men Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez, who are both out of contract at the end of next season.

Sources have told ESPN FC that Wenger made it clear to Arsenal officials as early as January that he intended to continue as the club's manager and a new two-year contract offer was presented to him.

Arsene Wenger has been in charge of Arsenal since 1996.
However, the alarming slump in the team's fortunes in recent months -- highlighted by a 10-2 aggregate Champions League defeat against Bayern Munich and the prospect of Arsenal missing out on a top-four finish in the Premier League -- has inspired Keswick and Gazidis to bring forward their restructuring of the club.

Keswick and Gazidis have made no public comment on Wenger's future in recent months and are reluctant to give their full backing until they convince him to accept changes.
Arsenal want Wenger to oversee a transitional period for the club, with the prospect of withdrawing their contract offer on the table not yet an option.

Former Arsenal players Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann and Sol Campbell have reminded supporters of the successful days Wenger has inspired at the club.

Former Arsenal midfielder Paul Merson has been outspoken in his criticism of Wenger in recent years and he suspects his former boss will not be willing to give up too much power at the club.

"He will accept changes to his coaching staff, but I'm not sure he will go with the idea of a director of football role," Merson told ESPN FC.

"I'm sure he will do everything he can to try and stay. What else is Wenger going to do? Without Arsenal, he hasn't got too much in his life, so he will want to stay. But I don't see him accepting a director of football coming in over him. I just don't see that.

"Of course he should go now, but I still don't see that happening. If he wasn't staying, he would have said he was going by now. If they are going to have a director of football, then I'd say bring David Dein back. He would get that club moving in the right direction again."

Kevin Palmer is a sports writer. You can follow him on Twitter: @RealKevinPalmer.

[www.espnfc.com]

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
SandyB (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 01:42
Quote:
Padre Pio
Wenger didn't react as if it's fake news. If it was he would have said so.
Wenger might not be the loser, it might be Gazidis who loses. In that case if had any self respect he would leave. I think that Wenger,s reaction has validated the story, his reply was code for Phuk you Ivan.
Kroenke may be forced to decide between either backing his CEO or his manager.

None of them have any self respect...absolutely none of them. Wenger has proven time n again he's the biggest spin doctor in history of football, he could easily beat most of the politicians as a fraud spin doctor.
Together they are cooking up a new story, all of them will stay as it is with either one more puppet or without depending on situation. If Wenger fuc.ks up big time out of top 4 n not winning FA cup then the SD thingy will come into play otherwise if Wenger can win FA cup then he'll sign a new deal with pride n absolute backing of AKBs n Gazidis will remain as usual.
Once again 100% fuc.king fake news. *** We live in Trump land we know fake news when we see one (Sm6) this one has fake news written all over it. If you remember 4 years ago they already tested this once n successfully sold it then.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Bergmars (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 08:00
This just reiterates the fact that this man has too much power and has effected a decline in the club's performances pitch wise.
He won't change just another summer of dithering and smug interviews until he goes I have little interest in what happens we are in free fall what players will come to us now.



A shadow of what we were

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 16:48
I am not fully convinced by a Sporting Director but I prefer it to a Sporting Dictator



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
MattySadler (IP Logged)
10 May, 2017 18:38
It does sound like Arsene and the board could be at loggerheads over this, meaning Wenger really is an enemy of progress.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
11 May, 2017 21:32
Wenger is like Napoleon, flushed with initial 10 years of successes, believing himself omnipresent, until Duke of wellington changed traditional tactics and using guerilla warfare to destroyed his army in SPain.

Plus, trying to take on more than he can bite, was defeated by General Winter in Russia.

He was badly led down by his trusted subordinates at Waterloo, wrong tactics and a much tougher opponent that can take physical punishment; and being a one-man show, when he was sick, the whole army was demoralized, leaderless and was routed.

This Arsene Wenger's Arsenal FC now:
1 - a megalomaniac with dictatorial power who believed he can do no wrong;
2 - trusted subordinates who are below par and not up to scratch in modern tactics;
3 - one-man show who left the team leaderless, with the one-and-onlyleader no show virtually whole season long.

[dailycannon.com]
Law’s presentation was followed by related talks by David Dein and Edu Gaspar, who is currently Director of Football at Corinthians. Each of their segments were simulcast live, but may be seen on their YouTube channel [Dick Law’s presentation can be found between 1:02 and 1:30 in the video].

During the discussion, Law described his role as working with the CFO and contracting staff to help the CEO [Ivan Gazidis] and the manager [Arsene Wenger] to specifically perform squad planning, contract negotiations, negotiations with agents, executes player transfers, and coordination with the academy.

Most of this we already knew, although it was unclear what level of squad planning was actually provided, other than through long-term player acquisition.
Law also described the role of Director of Football as seen under several management structures used by Manchester City and Southampton, as well as in general at other clubs within the Barclay’s Premier League.

Here, the responsibility for Director of Football literally ranges from everything football-related; to leading player development, technical direction, and being in charge of the first team manager; to recruiting (but not scouting), player contracts, analytics, transfer negotiations, logistics (e.g., kits, travel, immigration), medical team, and strength and conditioning.

Interestingly enough, Law was described at the conference as Arsenal’s Director of Football, despite Arsene Wenger vehemently rejecting the entire premise of the position. Law certainly shares some of those duties, as described.

Arsenal’s functional organisation, as presented by Dick Law, 8 May.

He went on to describe Arsene Wenger’s role as having total day-to-day control of the football department, as well as being a non-voting Board Member. In particular, the Arsenal manager is in charge of logistics, first team coaches, strength and conditioning, medical team, scouting, analytics, and team psychology – all in addition to his primary focus: the first team itself.

READ MORE:

Wenger: Chelsea league win helped by no Europe, let's see next season

Law related this this level of control was similar to that of Sir Alex Ferguson whilst manager at Manchester United. This is not only an exceptional amount of power, but carries an overwhelming amount of responsibility for a modern football club.

Traditional management philosophy constantly examines a modern organisation’s structure with respect to how many things a manager actually manages before he can no longer be successful. Typically, that number is between 5 and 7 sub-organisations. Naturally that depends upon the size of each sub-block.

In stark contrast, Wenger is dealing with 8 and only if you count the first team as a whole. We’ve already seen that he deals with everyone individually on the first team to the point where the role of Team Captain is merely a formality.

It is clear that some restructuring is necessary if Arsenal are to be successful. In doing that, perhaps it is time that Wenger relinquish responsibilities such as scouting, recruitment, long-term squad planning, and analytics to a true Director of Football.

This is not to mention the overall club budget and profitability that was never mentioned in the discussion. In fact, there was no mention of where the responsibility to manage club finances resided.

By organising in this way, Wenger can stay technically in charge of day-to-day squad planning and filling needs by requesting specific player talents and qualifications to a Director of Football’s equivalent of a Human Resources department. They can in turn provide him with candidates that he can interview and select as he chooses, as any manager in most companies do.

This would finally free the manager up to do the things the fans expect him to do… like focusing on winning the next match.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
13 May, 2017 07:08
More likely Gazidis packing his bag than Wenger.
Of course, it is too much to hope for both of them leaving and leaving Kroenke Family in the lurch.

Anyway, most likely Josh Kroenke may takeover as General Manager and imposes his authority over Arsene Wenger by bringing in Henry and Overmars as Director of Football and "technical advisor".

Fun to watch this Boardroom battle of Egos.


[www.football.london]
Ivan Gazidis could be offered an escape route out of the boardroom power struggle that is currently engulfing Arsenal.
With the club’s chief executive and manager Arsene Wenger at loggerheads over the appointment of a director of football, tensions are running high in north London.
They reached boiling point on Tuesday when Wenger slammed the plans and insisted he would he would stay in sole charge of the technical side of things as long as he remained as manager.
Read More
Defiant Arsene Wenger throws down the gauntlet to Ivan Gazidis as summer exit looks certain
The very public comments put the Arsenal boss on a director collision course with Gazidis - with many observers now convinced one or the other will eventually be forced to leave.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
13 May, 2017 13:53
Wenger to sign one-year deal as Stan Kroenke gives green light for 'dramatic' spending spree - report
French newspaper L’Equipe claim the Gunners are set to splash the cash this summer

Stan Kroenke is to give the green light for a ‘dramatic shift’ in spending at Arsenal.
That is according to French newspaper L’Equipe - who claim the Gunners board will loosen the purse strings this summer following a disappointing season in the Premier League.
The report also states the Arsene Wenger has the backing of the club's majority shareholder and is likely to sign a new one-year contract extension and remain in north London.

Read More
Arsenal finances revealed: Transfer war chest, wage bill, debt and revenues explored
L’Equipe name Lyon midfielder Corentin Tolisso as one of Wenger’s potential targets, with the £30 million rated star expected to leave the Ligue 1 club at the end of the season.

But the report also adds that Wenger is currently working on deals to bring in several players during what is shaping up to be an busy summer at Arsenal.
Wenger takes his side to Stoke this afternoon in a game they must win if they are to keep their slim hopes of Champions League qualification alive.

[www.football.london]

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
mapleleafgooner (IP Logged)
13 May, 2017 14:00
Every @#$%& season they give promises to spend the mythical war chest. And every @#$%& season, Wenger will say that he cannot find the super duper quality that is better than what he has already. What a @#$%& boring story.

 
Re: It;s the Highway or Wenger's Way? Wenger angry over idea of Sporting Director
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
13 May, 2017 17:23
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mapleleafgooner
Every @#$%& season they give promises to spend the mythical war chest. And every @#$%& season, Wenger will say that he cannot find the super duper quality that is better than what he has already. What a @#$%& boring story.

Wenger knew that it is his last extension and he will spend to go out with a bang.


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