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Wenger is a loser
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 11:56
That goes without saying but even though some people do not agree with me, he’s also a sell-out.

It was documented and stated by the club prior to 2006 that to accommodate the move to the Emirates and to be able to compete financially with the top clubs in the world, Wenger would have to tighten the purse strings and change his and the clubs mentality and evidently the season objectives from a PL winning and CL challenging team, to a 5 year plan of still finishing top 4 every season and collecting the CL money as a result whilst the stadium debt was paid off.

Despite not winning a trophy for 2 years prior, Silverware was put on the back burner and fans accepted this and generally for those follow on trophy-less seasons between 2006-2011 Wenger achieved what he needed to in keeping us in the top 4 CL places.

But after the 5 years were up an unrest snowball started to gather pace and got faster and faster until it became what we see today in 2017, an avalanche of angry fans who want him and the board gone. Where we have now not won the league for 13 years and only have two FA cups to show for the years of backing the club through the baron spell with nothing in return. Still not even nearly competing in Europe, crashing out in the last 16 year after year and now frantically holding on to a top 4 PL place as well. If anything we have gone backwards and are now even further away from competing with the top sides in Europe, or even domestically. As a result the fans unrest is now unprecedented under Wenger’s 20 year tenure.

So my question is what manager who ‘loves a club’ or is actually ambitious and puts winning ahead of greed is just happy being a puppet for the board and their financial objectives, and is happy to accept that a filthy rich club who robs their fans blind more than any other club on the planet, but still refuses to compete with the biggest clubs in the world in transfer fees or wages?

The squad and results year after year reflect exactly what sort of a club we are, a ‘profit first’ top 4 side at best. We do not compete for any major trophy and Wenger accepts this and is still happy to continue steering the club in this direction with this loser mentality year after year. He has even attempted a Jedi mind trick of telling the fans this is in fact ‘success’ or other nonsense like the club is actually in great shape (by which I can only assume he can only mean financially and the rich getting richer). He has at least finally dropped the 4th place is like a trophy saying having finally got the message after years of patronising retort that this was simply an insult to the fans intelligence, and back accounts.

Any supposedly top manager worth anything would tell the board to get f.ucked and move to a club who actually is ambitions to win trophies. But Wenger willingly fronts up this campaign of failure season after season, year in year out spinning more bullsh.it and only more pathetic excuses to show for yet another hugely disappointing season . Although I suppose if I was in his shoes and getting paid £8m a year to be the boards puppet and effectively achieve nothing other than to turn a profit for them and myself, greed would eventually take me over and I’d do the same in selling out the fans and lose all my morals and personal ambitions as well.

But do not tell me Wenger can or even wants to lead a revolution, I gave up on that 7 years ago. As the thread subject states, he’s a loser and sell out and happy to continue being so. New contract? Do me a favour.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 13:20
Good write up; he is A specialist in failure



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
SandyB (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 13:30
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Padre Pio
Good write up; he is A specialist in failure

His new name is 5-One, Padre.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 15:36
Why shoot the messenger?

Your target is Silent Stan.

With or without Arsene Wenger, it will still be status quo as far as Silent Stan is concern.

Last year, Silent Stan had said in not so many words that he got a business to run and winning trophies for fans is not his priority.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 17:03
See that's what irritates me as well as things such as 'the board are to blame, poor Arsene, he is working with what he has got and performing miracles under the circumstances'.

It's complete nonsense and grew very thin on me a long time ago. If this is the case and Wenger is this great ambitious manager but is being held back like some make out ... why doesn't he walk? He would walk into any other job in the world apparently where they would match his ambitions would he not?

The simple answer is because if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. He enforces the boards 'f.uck the fans and trophies, finances come first' mentality and is happy to pick up his £8m in doing so at the expense of rewarding the highest paying fans in world football with any form of success in return.

He likes to preach he has stayed loyal and could have moved on long ago, which is also complete nonsense because the simple reason for that is his failures at ANY other top club like he has at Arsenal would be rewarded with the sack .... not £8m a year. It's laughable.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
De Times (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 17:28
Why so much wailing and gnashing of teeth here? What is going on here?



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 18:02
Spot on BD.



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Re: Wenger is a loser
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 18:27
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De Times
Why so much wailing and gnashing of teeth here? What is going on here?

I guess I'm just bitter following Wenger's latest failure .... You know the West Brom game you said we'd have no problems winning.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
celine dion (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 18:28
Quote:
De Times
Why so much wailing and gnashing of teeth here? What is going on here?

Yes, I just can't understand it either. What's going on here?

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Bergmars (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 19:00
The team's he sends out are nothing short of a shambles,no passion no fight no organisation and seemingly bouts of in fighting.He and his cohorts sit on the bench and just watch us fall apart and then spins BS like we were a little short, physically,mentally or not prepared which frankly I in his shoes would be extremely embarrassed to admit.
What decent player with ambition is going to come to this circus run by this clown.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 19:08
Does Kroenke choose the stupid tactics? Put Walcott ahead of Perez, play a French Poodle 15 games in a row without scoring?
Bring up a squad without guts or courage?
Why is Wenger fronting for this man if he is to blame.

Did Stan choose Xenit over Kante?



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
celine dion (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 19:13
Kroenke has given Wenger plenty of money to spend in the last 3 years. The board have pretty much kept to their previous commitment to make funds available. It's hardly their fault that Wenger has more or less completely wasted it.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Bergmars (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 19:46
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celine dion
Kroenke has given Wenger plenty of money to spend in the last 3 years. The board have pretty much kept to their previous commitment to make funds available. It's hardly their fault that Wenger has more or less completely wasted it.
Correct


DB10,the best.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
tigerline (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 19:54
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celine dion
Kroenke has given Wenger plenty of money to spend in the last 3 years. The board have pretty much kept to their previous commitment to make funds available. It's hardly their fault that Wenger has more or less completely wasted it.

(Sm128)

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 21:03
And even when he hasn't wasted the money and bought in the odd top quality player like Sanchez or Ozil .... it makes no difference what so ever overall. We could have Messi and Ronaldo either side of Ozil and Sanchez up front and Wenger would still manage to f.uck it up because he cannot prepare a team mentally and is tactically inept.

Also another thing irritating me at the moment is people who are letting their pity for Wenger's long overdue plight outweigh their common sense and make excuses for him (as if he doesn't have enough of his own) and say things like 'the players have to take some responsibility'.

Whilst that is partially true, how many players over the last 13 years does this apply to exactly? There have been many many players over those years come and go and Wenger has failed to deliver time and time again throughout. It's no coincidence and the excuses have well and truly run out.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Shane (IP Logged)
21 March, 2017 02:22
I suddenly feel quite bad about my life if Arsene Wenger is a loser and a failure. Obviously Booty Daddy is personally flying care packages to Somalia and curing fatal diseases when he isn't bashing out hate-filled rants.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Bergmars (IP Logged)
21 March, 2017 07:21
No one needs to get carried away but Shane things at the club are obviously not as they should be.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
younghansolo (IP Logged)
21 March, 2017 10:27
I think it's slightly more accurate to say that Wenger has lost his ability to command Arsenal football club in a successful manner.

I'm not sure if it's, age, competency, external issues (money) or the game changing around him. But whatever the reason the result is the same. I'm not bitter or angry like some, I'm a little sad.

 
Re: Wenger is a loser
Bergmars (IP Logged)
21 March, 2017 14:26
It's been a gradual drift which all concerned at the club have allowed,finishing second last season just papered the obvious deficiencies which have been apparent for some time.



DB10,the best.


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