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Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:14
Says he has made his decision and will announce it soon. (Sm20)

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:15
Lets hope it's f*cking goodbye all.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:16
I just heard that and it definitely comes across that if that is the case he's leaving.

I'll believe it when I see it mind.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:17
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Boston Gooner
Lets hope it's f*cking goodbye all.

Get Allegri in tie up the deal now let Wenger get a send off players may actually play then we can move on.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
tigerline (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:25
HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!!

Please let this be true.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:26
They are reporting it now I saw him say it in the post match press conf they showed some of it on sky

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
SandyB (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:35
I saw his interview post game on MSNBC after the match n heard nothing of that sort... may be on sky.
Anyway, he believes no one can force him out, club isn't going to let him go so it's all up to him to make the call. What a joke!!



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:37
He's a smart dictator as long as he goes I don't care who he blames or turns it onto no doubt it will be all Arsenal fan fault for the failures.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 15:52
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has confirmed he has reached a decision over his future and will announce it "very soon".

After his side slumped to a fourth Premier League defeat in five games at West Brom, leaving them six points adrift of the top-four with 11 games to go, Wenger said his side are in "unique" peril.

"Don't worry, I know what I will do in my future so you will soon know, very soon," Wenger said after a 3-1 loss at The Hawthorns.

"You will see. Today I don't necessarily worry about that.

"We are in a unique bad patch that we haven't had in 20 years. We lose game after game at the moment, and that is more important for me than my future.

"We have a big fight and it will be very difficult now, but there is no other way than fighting and we must do it until the last game of the season. If it's not good enough we take the consequences.

"And maybe, one day, if we don't do it, people will enjoy it more to be in there."

More follows..

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
younghansolo (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:05
Well he hasn't made his mind up last week so if today has made it for him surely he's leaving?

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
tigerline (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:08
Both NBC studio analysts just interpreted his words and demeanoUr in his print interview as indicative that he has decided to stay .... Dammit to HELL.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:15
Wenger has signed the bloody contract. he doesn't care about the results nor has his actions ever shown he gives a damn what fans say or want.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
SandyB (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:16
Quote:
tigerline
Both NBC studio analysts just interpreted his words and demeanoUr in his print interview as indicative that he has decided to stay .... Dammit to HELL.

(Sm164)
This isn't a football club we are talking about...bunch of thieves running the club.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:18
If he even thinks the thought of staying the fans will lose their @#$%& media will feed off it it.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 16:43
Why are you getting your hopes up guys?

The Board has offered him a contract, Stan obviously wants him to stay and doesn't care about the football or the fans and only cares about the money, and Wenger still things he is the best man for Arsenal, so he will stay.

They will annouce Wenger staying afer a good run of games and/or when we secure top 4. If we don't finish top 4 then Wenger will drag this on the whole summer but will still end up staying.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
SuperRob (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 17:21
Well he can't announce he's going to stay after another loss can he.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 17:22
Quote:
Optimistic Gunner
Why are you getting your hopes up guys?
The Board has offered him a contract, Stan obviously wants him to stay and doesn't care about the football or the fans and only cares about the money, and Wenger still things he is the best man for Arsenal, so he will stay.

They will annouce Wenger staying afer a good run of games and/or when we secure top 4. If we don't finish top 4 then Wenger will drag this on the whole summer but will still end up staying.

exactly. same tactics whenever his contacts talks come up



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
tony ronson (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 17:35
HE SAID he doesn't pay attention to the stands. So, if what I read is correct, he's been offered 10 mill PA to sign for another 2 years, minus 50% tax equals 10 mill for 20 odd months twork with no chance of being sacked. My guess is he'll sign. Not exactly a bad deal, is it?

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
SuperRob (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 17:36
here's the video

[www.bbc.co.uk]

at the end he admitted he has made a decision but hasn't let anyone at the club know what it is, which is just all wrong in so many ways.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
younghansolo (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 18:05
Agreed. If he knows he has a duty to inform everyone now. Especially the players, it's clearly impacting them

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 18:34
Would not be surprised if he has a deal tied up with psg wouldn't care either infact I hope he has

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
De Times (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 18:59
Wenger stays or goes, the outcome would be the same or even worse as long as we don't invest significantly in the club. He should be given a 3 year contract and 250 million pounds to spend every single year, that's how other top teams roll. We can't give him the budget of a midlevel club and expect him to perform better than top level clubs like Bayern and Barca.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Eboractos (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 19:08
I can't think of any mid table club that can sign a central midfielder for 35m who the manager openly says is incapable of tackling properly. Can you?

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
tigerline (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 19:35
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Eboractos
I can't think of any mid table club that can sign a central midfielder for 35m who the manager openly says is incapable of tackling properly. Can you?

You have to give wenger SOME credit, however ... he did evaluate and consider signing Kante at one time.

See? There's that to be proud of.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
SuperRob (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 20:46
Quote:
De Times
Wenger stays or goes, the outcome would be the same or even worse as long as we don't invest significantly in the club. He should be given a 3 year contract and 250 million pounds to spend every single year, that's how other top teams roll. We can't give him the budget of a midlevel club and expect him to perform better than top level clubs like Bayern and Barca.

So which clubs are spending £250m per year every year?

According to [www.transfermarkt.co.uk] these are the net spends of Arsenal, Bayern and Barcelona in the past 3 seasons

AFC

14/15 - £77.50m
15/16 - £22.53m
16/17 - £87.25m

Bayern

14/15 + £0.2m
15/16 - £47.18m
16/17 - £15.05m

Barca

14/15 - £72.18m
15/16 - £2.30m
16/17 - £77.05m

And some other clubs for comparison

Real Madrid

14/15 - £15.56m
15/16 - £59.37m
16/17 + £6.38m

Manchester Utd

14/15 - £124m
15/16 - £37.95m
16/17 - £117m

Chelsea

14/15 + 7.14m
15/16 - £2.56m
16/17 - £20.74m

so the only club of these ones that we've spent less than in the past 3 years is Man Utd.

In my opinion, the return on that investment in terms of results, hasn't been worth it

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 20:55
Give wenger 250m you wtf did you see what he did with 33m and who he spent it on whilst passing up on Kante for 29m are you actually serious.

Yep he is certainly a spud and he knows it

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 22:15
Quote:
De Times
Wenger stays or goes, the outcome would be the same or even worse as long as we don't invest significantly in the club. He should be given a 3 year contract and 250 million pounds to spend every single year, that's how other top teams roll. We can't give him the budget of a midlevel club and expect him to perform better than top level clubs like Bayern and Barca.

Utter bull yet again.
Wouldn't trust him spending £250 let alone £250 mill.

By the way will you be moving on with Wenger ?



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
18 March, 2017 23:41
I watched the interview on MOTD, he looked a beaten man who is about to go



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 00:36
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Padre Pio
I watched the interview on MOTD, he looked a beaten man who is about to go

But he likes that, as he himself has said that he is a masochist.

Arsene Wenger says he is a 'specialist in masochism' after 20 years at Arsenal

‘Masochist’ Arsène Wenger admits his job hurts but hints at staying at Arsenal



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 06:34
Wenger will not like to repeat the bitter experience at AS Monaco when the players stopped playing for him and the Board lost confidence in him. He was sacked.

Silent Stan will not want to be distracted from his Inglewood project.
He will retain Wenger to maintain stability like he retained Jeff Fisher to maintain stability at LA Rams.

Arsene Wenger will not want to leave now with his legacy soiled and being a laughing stock.

He is determined to fight on, meet-up with Silent Stan, mapped out his direction for next season with plenty of spineless players shown the door.

After yesterday match, Ozil is vital for Wenegr to rebuild the team with players like Alexis, Walcott, Ramsey, Coquelin, Gibbs and even OX who dhow no fight or do not wish to play for Arsenal FC can leave.

If Arsene Wenger is determined to fight on, then he must take out the butcher knife and start a massive bloodbath with his existing squad.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 07:02
Arsene Wenger has agreed to stay on at Arsenal for one more season, according to reports.
The Sunday Express claims that a two-year deal was on the table but the 67-year-old has committed to a contract which will keep him at the club for another campaign.
Following the 3-1 defeat to West Brom, Wenger indicated that he has already decided his future but refused to elaborate if that meant he will call time on his 21-year reign.
‘I know what I will do,’ he said. ‘You will soon know.’


Read more: [metro.co.uk]

This is the best deal for Arsene Wenger to bow out with dignity.

One last chance not to leave as a laughing stock and soil his legacy, but a dignified farewell with the funds to build the team he wanted, never mind the cost.

Those who refuse to paly for Arsenal FC can f**k off.

Those who lack commitment ans spirit to fight when the chips are down at WBA can f**k off.

Arsene Wenger owns nothing to those players he trusted, and who badly led him down at WBA.
Time to start a bloodbath in the dressing room ... starting with Alexis. Just announce he has no future and tell him to find a club.

Pointless to keep a player who did not fight for the badge ... and sulks when the chips are down.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Bergmars (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 07:32
This is a recipe for more unrest on and off the pitch.Apparently Walcott and Primo what's his name had a fight in training we have the obvious dissatisfaction of Sanchez and a swathe of unsettled players, this will do little to soothe these problems but more like add to them.
There is something with Ozil as well mystery injuries and illness of late why sign a one year deal which will just add to the uncertainty and the barage of pundits constantly beratting the club in general. Wrong thing to do if true.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 09:52
Wenger has nothing to offer. he is even a bigger fool if he thinks he will leave on a high if he stays for 2 more seasons or one. he is done. the football jet left him on the tarmac 12 seasons ago

the worst part of this disaster is that the whole system is such that without Wenger everything will spiral out of control because this board are clueless as to the football aspect of things. thanks to so much power given to Wenger.

kroenke may not give a @#$%& what fans thinks and is all for Wenger and his plans, but the minute revenue falls short, TV rights are lost due to woeful performance by the team, no CL and 4th place trophy, he will axe anyone responsible cos no matter what, we are his cash cow and as soon as the milk is not flowing in as usual, adjustments must be made. he needs constant flow of revenue to fund his new stadium pet project.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 10:01
Only at our club could a decision on his future be allowed to drag on and on.

Wenger running the club.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 11:24
If he thinks he can sign on for another year that's him and the club showing how detached from reality they are

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
SandyB (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 12:42
One more chance doesn't make a loser to winner.He's in denial as usual n self create then self sign contracts after contracts to prove everybody wrong. @#$%& joker!!

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 13:23

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 13:24
Rumours are its another year of bullshit.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 16:09
Then watch Allegri end up at Barca or Bayern there is nothing he can do in one year if he cant do it in 13.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 16:46
hate to wish this but I hope the team will crash and burn and all hell will break loose if it will get this fraud out of this club.

I don't mind becoming a mid table struggling team cos that may get Stan to sell and get lost.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
tigerline (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 16:58
Quote:
Boston Gooner
Rumours are its another year of bullshit.

And the rest of the League celebrates for another season ...

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Bergmars (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 19:28
I'm fed up of the whole shebang @#$%& it throw myself into my golf



DB10,the best.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 21:50
Arsenal have made an offer to Borussia Dortmund boss Thomas Tuchel to replace Arsene Wenger next season, according to reports in Germany.

According to Bild, the Gunners have made their move for Tuchel - who has been heavily linked this season with a possible move to the Emirates.

Tuchel has been boss at Dortmund since 2015 when he replaced Jurgen Klopp. Prior to that he had spent six seasons in charge of Mainz 05.

[www.football.london]

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
SandyB (IP Logged)
19 March, 2017 21:59
Quote:
Merlion96
Arsenal have made an offer to Borussia Dortmund boss Thomas Tuchel to replace Arsene Wenger next season, according to reports in Germany.
According to Bild, the Gunners have made their move for Tuchel - who has been heavily linked this season with a possible move to the Emirates.

Tuchel has been boss at Dortmund since 2015 when he replaced Jurgen Klopp. Prior to that he had spent six seasons in charge of Mainz 05.

[www.football.london]
Why Wenger decided to take the Barcelona job offer offer of mopping the locker room??

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
litmus (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 04:27
Quote:
Merlion96
Arsenal have made an offer to Borussia Dortmund boss Thomas Tuchel to replace Arsene Wenger next season, according to reports in Germany.
[www.football.london]

Wow, another "report". It seems that they are 5 different "reports" of someone been offered to replace AW for nest season. Even if its true, I am not convinced with Tuchel, Allegri or Simeone is a better bet. First of all, we need to build a team that's solid, hard to beat, organised, Tuchel's teams are not great defensively, I seen some of the goals they concede.

Allegri and Simeone would do that. Focus on the spine the backdone, make us a strong dominating unit first.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
tony ronson (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 11:15
I just heard on the radio that he has signed for one more year.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 11:30
Quote:
tony ronson
I just heard on the radio that he has signed for one more year.

(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)(Sm164)

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 13:25
Which radio station and who did they give as their source?



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
De Times (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 17:32
Quote:
SuperRob
Quote:
De Times
Wenger stays or goes, the outcome would be the same or even worse as long as we don't invest significantly in the club. He should be given a 3 year contract and 250 million pounds to spend every single year, that's how other top teams roll. We can't give him the budget of a midlevel club and expect him to perform better than top level clubs like Bayern and Barca.

So which clubs are spending £250m per year every year?

According to [www.transfermarkt.co.uk] these are the net spends of Arsenal, Bayern and Barcelona in the past 3 seasons

AFC

14/15 - £77.50m
15/16 - £22.53m
16/17 - £87.25m

Bayern

14/15 + £0.2m
15/16 - £47.18m
16/17 - £15.05m

Barca

14/15 - £72.18m
15/16 - £2.30m
16/17 - £77.05m

And some other clubs for comparison

Real Madrid

14/15 - £15.56m
15/16 - £59.37m
16/17 + £6.38m

Manchester Utd

14/15 - £124m
15/16 - £37.95m
16/17 - £117m

Chelsea

14/15 + 7.14m
15/16 - £2.56m
16/17 - £20.74m

so the only club of these ones that we've spent less than in the past 3 years is Man Utd.

In my opinion, the return on that investment in terms of results, hasn't been worth it
We're talking about actual spend and you're talking about net-spend. If Barca decides to sell Messi today, what do you think their netspend would be in that window? We're not at the same level yet, we don't all have the same quality of players in our team, so you can't begin to talk about net-spend. You need to talk about actual spent, and even at that, we should be spending twice as much as the top teams to be able to get to their level and meet your expectations.



"A club is a union between players, supporters and directors". - Wenger.
Arsene wenger has done an absolutely masterful job within the constraints he has... Every single year, he has outperformed our spending every single year he has been manager. It is extraordinary. -Gazides.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Big Guhnz (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 18:20
Quote:
De Times
Quote:
SuperRob
Quote:
De Times
Wenger stays or goes, the outcome would be the same or even worse as long as we don't invest significantly in the club. He should be given a 3 year contract and 250 million pounds to spend every single year, that's how other top teams roll. We can't give him the budget of a midlevel club and expect him to perform better than top level clubs like Bayern and Barca.

So which clubs are spending £250m per year every year?

According to [www.transfermarkt.co.uk] these are the net spends of Arsenal, Bayern and Barcelona in the past 3 seasons

AFC

14/15 - £77.50m
15/16 - £22.53m
16/17 - £87.25m

Bayern

14/15 + £0.2m
15/16 - £47.18m
16/17 - £15.05m

Barca

14/15 - £72.18m
15/16 - £2.30m
16/17 - £77.05m

And some other clubs for comparison

Real Madrid

14/15 - £15.56m
15/16 - £59.37m
16/17 + £6.38m

Manchester Utd

14/15 - £124m
15/16 - £37.95m
16/17 - £117m

Chelsea

14/15 + 7.14m
15/16 - £2.56m
16/17 - £20.74m

so the only club of these ones that we've spent less than in the past 3 years is Man Utd.

In my opinion, the return on that investment in terms of results, hasn't been worth it
We're talking about actual spend and you're talking about net-spend. If Barca decides to sell Messi today, what do you think their netspend would be in that window? We're not at the same level yet, we don't all have the same quality of players in our team, so you can't begin to talk about net-spend. You need to talk about actual spent, and even at that, we should be spending twice as much as the top teams to be able to get to their level and meet your expectations.

What if barca bought the whole madrid team and then might of sold them? What else @#$%& can you cook up to say nobody on earth can be as deluded as your claiming to be.

Spud

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 21:07
Quote:
De Times
We're talking about actual spend and you're talking about net-spend. If Barca decides to sell Messi today, what do you think their netspend would be in that window? We're not at the same level yet, we don't all have the same quality of players in our team, so you can't begin to talk about net-spend.

Well we're about to lose our only two quality players in the summer, so don't hold your breath on us getting to the same level anytime soon either.

In fact do.



Albert Einstein once said: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
20 March, 2017 23:19
I got a feeling we are also losing Lucas and the Ox. Sadly we will keep Ramsey and Walcott



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: Wenger: Decision made
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
21 March, 2017 00:05
Quote:
Padre Pio
I got a feeling we are also losing Lucas and the Ox. Sadly we will keep Ramsey and Walcott

In fairness until we get a new manager we will be stuck with Wengers favourites and the rest of the deadwood.

In time we will challenge again for titles.
But it will take time.

A new team will be born that will actually perform to there capabilities.



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Re: Wenger: Decision made
tony ronson (IP Logged)
22 March, 2017 09:48
I think it was talksport, but I was still half asleep, and it could have been some pundit speculating. But from the conflicting reports, my guess is he'll have another year and why not? My reason being, this club will never win anything with that current board so why not hang onto a manager who has shown so much loyalty rather.

To be ambitious we'd need one of those foreign investors ala City or Chelsea who will look for the very best manager they can find and support his dream financially to give him the players he needs to fulfill his blue print and compete with rival managers with similar ideas of the players he wants.

I'm a terrible AKB as I know none of the above will happen with Kronke and co so stay loyal out basic sentiment. Of course I know we can never win anything with Wenger. Even the FA cups we won recently was only because the top clubs fielded reserve teams and got knocked out before they got near a round that was worth risking their full sides. This year will prove that, City will hammmer us in the semis. No good olf Aston Villa's or Hulls to rely on.

Soccer has moved on a generation and the new breed of Pep's, Klopp, Conte's, Poccac (Spurs guy can't spell his name) Simone's are reflecting the gulf in tactical superiority and freshness. Even once the master of tactics and boring everybody to tears, Moaniniho has been left behind and is morphing rapidly into our very own Wenger for excuses.

But change can never realistically come with that board, and they have no reason to go. They are about making money not success, and while the brand earns them millions abroad and at home with enough people to keep buying the merch, forget ever seeing AFC becoming a PLAYER. Say Weger quits, and he probably will after next season, then what? In with an average to semi good Italian guy who won't be good enough to rival the above new breed of names I mentioned, or will he be supported by a board that have zero interest. So, I say, might as well all suffer together with a face we've had for twenty odd years.


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