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J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
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25 March, 2016 12:38
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2016 20:24 by Padre Pio.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 14:17
Not going to happen unless somebody is going to pay him £25,000 per share.

That is, Arsenal Holdings plc total shares of 61,000 is worth £1.5-billion, with Silent Stan collecting nearly £1.0-billion, laughing all the way to the bank.

Why should Silent Stan sells when Arsenal Holdings plc cash hoard will grow by at least £50-million year-by-year just from one source of income, i.e. Skysport TV rights for next 3 seasons.

In 4 yrears time, should Silent Stan wishes to sell to pay off his new LA Rams Stadium, he will easily collect at least £1.5-billion with a growing pile of cash hoard easily doubt to at least £500-million.

There is method to his madness in not collecting dividends and letting the cash lies in the bank. Silent Stan does not wish to pay 30% of dividends to Usmanov but issuing a challenge to USmanov:

"You want Arsenal Holdings plc? Make me an offer I can't refuse!"

There is no difference between Silent Stan and Usmanov.
Both are corporate predator who out-smarted those Etonians who sold away their undervalued family jewels to a group of smart fund managers who are onto a good thing.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 16:04
[www.mirror.co.uk]

Arsenal shareholder Alisher Usmanov has offered his full support for Arsene Wenger - and insisted the club “must retain” him as manager.

Gunners boss Wenger is under unprecedented pressure after the club crashed out of the Champions League and FA Cup while they have also fallen behind in the title race.

Fed-up fans have been calling for Wenger to go and have also pointed the finger at majority shareholder Stan Kroenke for not axing the manager.

But Usmanov’s comments to a Russian TV station have made it clear that he also supports Wenger as the Uzbeki tycoon made it clear the the club “needs” him to stay.

Usmanov, in an interview with Rossiya24, said: "Arsenal’s results are stable. They are always among the leaders of the English Premier League. This is a good and large sports business project, and I am pleased with it.

“The only thing is that today such situation occurred, like in any sport, there are ups and downs.

The club must retain its major symbol and main asset - manager Arsene Wenger.


“Failures have been haunting Arsenal for many years now, they cannot become the EPL champions. This has led to some discontent with Wenger's position as a manager.

“I believe that Arsene Wenger is a great coach, and Arsenal has to give him the opportunity to plan the succession process and leave his legacy when he deems it necessary.

“It is very important for the football club to maintain the principles that were established by those people who created its victories. Arsenal needs Arsene Wenger.”


That could be a major blow for some fans who have seen Usmanov as the preferred option because they believed he would demand success.

Usmanov has upset Wenger in the past by demanding more trophies and being critical of the club’s recent lack of success.

But this very noticeable change in direction is good news for Wenger and - indirectly - good for Kroenke as it proves that even if he went there would not be further change.

Fans have recently started chanting and banners against Kroenke who has been strong in his staunch defence for Wenger’s record.

Usmanov, who has recently taken up sole charge of his 30 per cent stake in the club, hinted at a succession plan but there is clearly no view from him to axe Wenger.

Wenger, 66, who has a year left on his current £8million-a-year contract has told those close to him that he wants to stay and rebuild the squad.

Firm backing from the club’s hierarchy and boardroom will only strengthen Wenger’s belief that he will carry on and not walk away this summer.

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Least we forgot that in 2009, Arsenal fans begged Arsene Wenger not to go as Real Madrid was seriously plotting to snatch him should contract negotiation failed.

And in our delusion of grandeur, Arsenal fans had real short-term memory that it is not Arsene Wenger's fault that he was under severe budgetary constraint - imposed by those terms of that £260-million mortgage bond till 2031 - that every transfer activities are needed the permission of the banking consortium during those lean years from 2004/05 to 2013/14.

Yes, he is only human and made mistakes, most unforgivable in 2007/08 and somewhat in 2013/14 and 2014/15 when our rivals were under transition and a few astute buys will turn us into title-winner. But of course, all these are alternative history and "what if". We will never know.

The greatest service Arsene Wenger had done for Arsenal fans is not those French Spine nor The Invincibles, but that £420-million (final cost) 60,000-seater stadium that dragged Arsenal FC into the rank of global football club that can compete and will compete against the likes of Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern Munich in the near future.

Regardless of the current failures of Arsene Wenger, he had done his duty to leave Arsenal FC with a from foundation in Emirates Stadium and Youth Development for the next manager to bring us to the level of Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern Munich.

In fact, we had caught up with our local rivals in ManU, Chelski and Abu Dhabi City, playing them on an even footing this season.

We always heard of the Board had so much cash that Arsene Wenger can spend and previously even PHW had said the Board will not stop Arsene Wenger from spending.

But that is not the whole truth. Yes, Arsene Wenger can spend all he wanted but the fine print said "within the approved budget please".

Arsene Wenger is an honourable man and will not stab nor bite the hand that feed him. Notice the silence from Arsene Wenger or confirmation from him as to how much he can spend?

Perhaps we have to wain for his biography to hear the side of his story.

In attacking Arsene Wenger, we are curing only the symptom(s) but not the cause of Arsenal FC illness.

The symptoms are:
1 - Arsene Wenger is fiercely loyal to his hand-picked coaching staff, regardless of whether they are dinosaurs with outdated and predictable attacking football tactics that every decent football managers knew how to pick our defence apart.

2 - In hindsight, the failure of those old boys and Etonians to leverage on sponsorships and naming rights during Emirates Stadium construction. On the other hand, the Board then was finding it extremely difficult to arrange loans and attracting sponsors as Arsenal FC, to be brutally frank, is just a local and well-known English club and not of the marquee status of the likes of ManU and Liverpool.

In fact, even during 2014/15 FY, Liverpool commercial business is still greater than Arsenal FC.

3 - We are owned by corporate predators and fund managers whose only interest is to enhance the selling price of Arsenal Holdings plc to prospective buyers and walk away with at least 200% capital gain.

Both Silent Stan and Usmanov are salivating now at the real prospect of those Chinese or Asian Billionaires or African Billionaires or Russki Sugar Daddy or petrodollar sheikhs willingly to buy Arsenal FC as a status symbol, price is of no concern.

Silent Stan is not daft and knew that he will to open his purse-string to provide funds for a desperate Arsene Wenger to build his 4th team in the summer to win title or CL Cup; which will in turn can only increase turnovers and enhanced the selling price of Arsenal Holdings plc.

That AJ is the real corporate world where captive customers are helpless and their only weapon is consumer boycott.

How many die-in-the-wool Arsenal fans are willingly to give up their season tickets and walk away from the local club that their great-grandparent, grandparent and parent supported and in turn pass this heritage to them?

That is the crux of the matter isn't it AJ?

Like the mythical phoenix, first you must destroy and burn the present phoenix to birth a new phoenix; which is no guarantee it will be better than the current devil you know.

Yes, AJ, you can destroy a gigantic tree by first cutting its root and watch it die gradually. Is that how you want to get rid of Silent Stan by first destroying the grassroots support of Arsenal FC?

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 19:52
there you go. we might as well accept our faith and forget EPL title or Cl. go into hibernation and wait till we see a change enough to wake up. its just tiring and too emotional being an Arsenal fan.



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Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 19:59
Merl ion is too tied to the system AJ he cannot envisage an alternative. But if the fans went into rebellion with anti Kroenke banners and chants, boycotts etc the sponsors would not like it and put pressure on for change.



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 20:23
Quote:
Padre Pio
Merl ion is too tied to the system AJ he cannot envisage an alternative. But if the fans went into rebellion with anti Kroenke banners and chants, boycotts etc the sponsors would not like it and put pressure on for change.

exactly what i was thinking but then will Arsenal fans do?? we are a peculiar fan group that just take whatever is dished to us. we make accuses, absolve wenger and blame every other thing but the real culprits.the board has managed to attract a band of ticket buying fans that believe the club is excellent as its being run now..



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Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
25 March, 2016 21:19
We got rid of Billy Wright and Terry Neil.



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
26 March, 2016 04:09
Quote:
Padre Pio
Merl ion is too tied to the system AJ he cannot envisage an alternative. But if the fans went into rebellion with anti Kroenke banners and chants, boycotts etc the sponsors would not like it and put pressure on for change.

That is correct Padre.
Work within the system like how Liverpool fans got rid of Gillet & Hicks.
FSG took over and willing to spend but got the wrong manager in Daglish and Rodgers.

AJ, understands the last 2 paragraphs of my posts.
First you must destroy before rebirth.

What are the roots of Silent Stan's wallet?
Matchday revenues, broadcasting revenues and commercial business.

If Arsenal plays in Nigeria this summer tour, how many Nigerian Arsenal fans will boycott the match?

Arsenal FC is having a legion of sponsors and advertisers crawling out of the woodwork to do business to enrich Silent Stan?
How will continual demonstrations - like Liverpool fans - and boycotting of Arsenal FC products going to drive Silent Stan out?

Not a chance as turnovers are on an upward surge when the 3-Year Skysport TV Rights kick in next season.

Isn't it a coincidence that Arsene Wenger's new extension will expire at the same time of this new 3-Year TV rights contract?

By concentrating on getting rid of Arsene Wenger, Arsenal fans are shooting the messenger and not the King.

Wait for season end on May 15, 2016 before giving up hope on Arsene Wenger.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
SandyB (IP Logged)
29 March, 2016 19:00
There is only one person to shoot that's Wenger n no one else...

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Merlion96 (IP Logged)
31 March, 2016 01:29
Quote:
SandyB
There is only one person to shoot that's Wenger n no one else...

After you shot the messenger, what happen?

Arsene Wenger on high expectation of disgruntled Arsenal fans during 1998/99 fiasco:
"After you have caviar every day, it is hard to go back to sausages."

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
AJ The Gunner (IP Logged)
31 March, 2016 12:24
Quote:
SandyB
There is only one person to shoot that's Wenger n no one else...

i doubt that shooting wenger will solve the problem. yes wenger is stuck a terrible rot that can easily be solved if he wasn't so delusional and stubborn but getting another manager with this board and stan in the driving seat is the major major issue.



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Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Bergmars (IP Logged)
01 April, 2016 10:48
Wenger is the face of the club but like any other employee does his masters bidding or walks,we know AW for all his faults is no quitter.
I have for some time held the notion Wenger does as Gazidis(via SK) tells him and has been told his budget which is in all probability not what we hear it is.Yes he makes mistakes tactically and in his selections but is working to his enforced restraints,the fact he is happy to do so whilst taking his pot of gold makes him a very attractive prospect for a man just here to make dollars.



DB10,the best.

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
YANKONTHIS (IP Logged)
01 April, 2016 12:46
We could do a lot worse than Silent Stan. We could have Mike Ashley or Blackpool's owner, or (fill in the blank). Plenty of crappy owners out there. Silent Stan leaves the management structure alone; he doesn't meddle in things he doesn't know anything about. That model is ok with me.



SUPREME BEING: "I should do something very extroverted and vengeful to you. Honestly, I'm too tired. So, I think I'll transfer you to the undergrowth department, brackens, more shrubs, that sort of thing... with a 19% cut in salary, backdated to the beginning of time."

 
Re: J'accuse Wenger and Kroenke The Curse of Silent Stan
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
02 April, 2016 00:51
There are also some good owners out there, owners that have invested in the team, owners that actually want to win trophies



- until Wenger moves on, they'll always be the also-rans in the major competitions. A club in elite purgatory. Always good enough to make it to the big race, never fast or smart enough to push over the finish line in first place. That's all about the manager. Until he changes, Arsenal fans will continue to celebrate glorious failure.


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