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Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:24
A bit premature still 30 minutes left until game time but once it's on, discuss.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
BIGSNOOP (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:29
(Sm102) 4FS give the kid a chance

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:30

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
karsene16 (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:35
Actually looking forward to this match, Kompany, that Vert guy, Verminator, Hazard, Dembele, fellaini.

People have been talking about Belgium for years and I ignored them.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:38
Probably because they never do anything.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:43
Vert said on twitter that the talk in the papers is not true today, he didn't say he is not joining the spuds though.

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4FS give the kid a chance

FFS calm down, I'm merely interested.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:49
Interested in what? That Hazard is a million miles ahead of Chamberlain?



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:51
stop it. england will beat them with ease. but ox is getting way overrated now. he has no right to go to the euros after barely playing for us

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:52
Why? Michael Owen did ok at the world cup at 18 years old.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 15:58
just because OX didn't play that much for us doesn't mean other managers don't rate him or think that he should ave been playing...it only means he couldn't get ahead of Wenger's hierarchy system



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Shane (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:06
Belgium could be a threat in a few years, was gonna put money on them today but I got smokes and lunch instead, 4/1 tho.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
flynchstone (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:06
Or that he turned 18 this year, and had only played league one football before this season. Whichever.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Shane (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:09
Mignolet, Vermaelen, Kompany, Lukaku, Felliani, Hazard, Witsel, Vertonghen - what a team Belgium could potentially be.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:13
Yes, 32 million vs 15 million...hype, hype, hype match. lol.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
flynchstone (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:16
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Mignolet, Vermaelen, Kompany, Lukaku, Felliani, Hazard, Witsel, Vertonghen - what a team Belgium could potentially be.
I don't know how this team hasn't made it to a tournament yet, they'd want to pull those socks up.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SuperRob (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:18
mirallas is one to watch for me. Heard good things about him.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:40
Ashley Young has been to the ground at least 4 times and the ref isn't having any of it...think they've been warned about him

don't think he can get a legitimate foul called



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:41
Ooops, England midfield missing in action.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:48
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Posted by: Rockstaar (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2012 17:40

Ashley Young has been to the ground at least 4 times and the ref isn't having any of it...think they've been warned about him

don't think he can get a legitimate foul called

Ashley Young is diving even at the middle of the pitch,lol.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
tigerline (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:49
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just because OX didn't play that much for us doesn't mean other managers don't rate him or think that he should ave been playing...it only means he couldn't get ahead of Wenger's hierarchy system

Exactly right.

And then there are those who were postulating that wenger was holding Ox back from playing time in order to hide him from being selected for the Euros or the olympics.

they might have been right - the old fool IS that stupid.

oh well ...

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:49
horrible football by the hosts I must say...playing like Brazil..bloody boring



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:51
well taken goal by Welbeck although that haircut he insists on staying with drives me bonkers



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 16:55
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Posted by: Rockstaar (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2012 17:49

horrible football by the hosts I must say...playing like Brazil..bloody boring

Brasil doesn't score less than 4 goals against these type of teams, lol

Rockstaar must be rocking, Man United deep water diving combo on action.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SA-Gunner (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 17:00
Lol Hazard looks no better than Ramsey so far.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 17:13
just messing with you Sandy lol...can't argue with you on this one..I agree Brazil would be up by at least 3 by now

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Lol Hazard looks no better than Ramsey so far.

is Hazard playing?



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Jack_is_the_truth (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 17:14
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well taken goal by Welbeck although that haircut he insists on staying with drives me bonkers

(Sm22)



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 17:42
Theodore coming for Ox, so far Ox won against Hazard. Must say, didn't see Hazard much before but Abramovic still have a last call before spending 32 million for him.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SA-Gunner (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 17:59
This guy Hazard reminds me of Nasri, except that with less dribbling capacity. I remember that the lesbian was also quite overhyped in France before he joined us. Moussa Dembele is much better.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SuperRob (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 18:07
This game proves nothing. PLayers often look rubbish for their countries but still play well for their clubs.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 18:17
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Posted by: SuperRob (IP Logged)
Date: 02 June, 2012 19:07

This game proves nothing. PLayers often look rubbish for their countries but still play well for their clubs.

Playing well for their club one thing but didn't look like a 32 million player for sure who could win things for his club. Kun Agüero looked one before joining so did David Silva. I can tell you Hulk will be one.

Not a winger with pace and eye catching skill or eye for goal.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gunners R Us (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 18:49
I don't understand the logic on basing someone on one meaningless international friendly.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SA-Gunner (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 19:24
R Us, I have seen Hzard in many opportunities and frankly speaking I think he's overhyped. If he was the new Kaka or so, I think Belgium would have qualified for the Euros, or at least would have achieved the second position instead of Turkey.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Kalela (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 19:37
I think both players had an unimpressive game but Hazard was almost invisible. Ox had two good chances to score but he rushed himself and on both occasions missed widely. He reminded me of Ramsey the way he took those chances. I hope he is not losing confidence. Nacer Chadli and Dembele looked decent for Belgium but over all the Belguim team was horrible. THey were not threat to the England goal AT ALL. England could use someone like Wilshere really bad. Their midfield is dead.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gunnersingh (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 19:45
Hazard is known us a flat-track-bully in France. He's a great talent but I don't think he's suited to english football.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
weedz (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 20:29
Belgium have quality all over the field, except in the striker stakes. When that Lukaku comes of age, Belgium will become a Euro powerhouse, IMO



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
weedz (IP Logged)
02 June, 2012 20:35
Was Vince Kompany injured?



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
jar5 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 07:20
what do u mean when he comes of age, lukaku is already 32.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 11:27
hazard was man of the match....created 6 clear chances. Twice as many as any other player on the pitch. Not saying he had great game, but he was the best player on the pitch

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 12:49
OX was better than Hazard in this particular match..not even debatable



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 12:52
omg this is crazy....ox did nothing and was all over the place, I swear if oc played like hazard, thee would be several youtube videos of him now. Look at the stats

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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 12:55
Barely even knew Hazard was on the pitch. Helped by the commentator insisting on trying to pronounce his name in a french accent.
Don't see how EH could be called MOTM tbh. (Sm7)

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:03
Hazard was easily the best player on the pitch. Chamberlain did NOTHING at all. He was below average as per usual when playing on the wing (and probably in the middle too). Hazard, however, was taking people on with ease, keeping the ball, passing it everywhere and always moving in the right areas. Superb player.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Willy (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:04
That was probably because Hazard was taking all the set pieces. He looks very different to the Ox. A bit lightweight but that near perfect technique could still be deadly in any league if he is clever like david silva. AOC will not be bullied out of games and can work on his technique as he's a couple of years younger. For £20m less I'm happy based on that 1 game.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:04
Hazard did nothing the whole game and I do not remember any of these alleged 6 chances which he created.
Ox was the better player on the day, everyone saw that and so I am glad that I threw up this thread because Ox is clearly the better player.

Hazard is 23 and Ox is what, 18 ? (Sm126)

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:07
Oh my god. This is why I stopped posting here. Up your game on footballing matters, please.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:30
I'm glad you stopped posting, you were never ever right about anything and yet you tell me to up my game ?!

Yeh like when you said that Aguero was over rated but Denilsen was going to be the better than Cesc, but that David Silva wasn't good enough for Arsenal. Dude you made people laugh because your opinions were so south of actuality that they bore no resemblance to it, you are so wrong about everything that at some point it became highly amusing.

No one ever took you seriously, it was just hysterical to see you paint yourself into a corner and then attempt to talk yourself out.

Up my game ? I was one who you were arguing with about Aguero and Silva and now they are winning titles with Citeh, I was the one you were arguing with when I said that Denilsen looked average on his best day, I was the one you were arguing with when you said that there was no proof that money could buy success and so on and so on.

I'd go as far to say that when you have stuck your neck out that it got chopped off every time, you've never been right about anything but you know when to agree with the "right people" in order to be liked, pathetic.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:35
I will always love my lying eyes...I don't know too much about Hazard other than Jack absolutely creaming for us to sign him,

but evaluating his performance for this one match..he wasn't even the stand out player for Belgium and I really didn't notice him and thats with me paying special attention to see what all the hype is



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 13:52
People say stupid things all the time, especially when they are on a forum rampage for no reason other than boredom.

Thinking Aguero and Silva won't make it in the Premier League based on what I had seen is not ridiculous. In fact, Silva wasn't very good at all in his first year at Man City, but when he started playing more centrally he flourished, but even then he only gave them around four months of World Class performances.

The idea that Chamberlain is better than Hazard is the opinion of a serial mental case.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
jar5 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 14:03
hazard is easily the best player in the premier league, bar none.

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SandyB (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 14:47
Err Billy, i thought you were one of the big Hazard camp guy! But fair enough, i'll go with your opinion rather than Tom's about Hazard's performance on yesterday's match.

Didn't see one of those 6 goal scoring chances that reportedly made upto the stats even if i consider any half chance. If those dodgy stats mafe Edin Hazard hyped then god save his potential employers. I wouldnt pay a dollar more than 20 million for him and i"m sure there are plenty simar capability players availabe who are not so hyped, as far i've seen for Shakhtar i'd take Willian ahead of Hazard in that left wing position.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 15:00
funny thing is that if no one knew who Hazard was before that match you sure as hell wouldn't know who he was after...did absolutely nothing...not even a glimpse

he may turn out to be the best thing since myself...but talking about yesterdays performance and only that...he was out-shined



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 15:11
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Err Billy, i thought you were one of the big Hazard camp guy!

I was, he looked great on youtube. (Sm126)

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People say stupid things all the time, especially when they are on a forum rampage for no reason other than boredom.

The admission of a troll !

I hate it when you do this Tom, getting me all churlish. I was a bit mean before and you are liked even by me but why do you always insult people whilst making your point it only leads to conflict ?!

I'm going to redress the karmic balance and say that I love you, no homo. smoking smiley

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
karsene16 (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 15:32
I for one was watching to see what the hype was about and saw nothing. Hazard was involved in the match but not influential, Dembele was much better for Belgium.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
03 June, 2012 16:25
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funny thing is that if no one knew who Hazard was before that match you sure as hell wouldn't know who he was after...did absolutely nothing...not even a glimpse
he may turn out to be the best thing since myself...but talking about yesterdays performance and only that...he was out-shined
outshone by who? ox(Sm22) boy looked out of his depth and I felt sorry for him. Hazard was the best player on the pitch. i know some of you are bitter he went to chelsea, but stop deluding yourself. its embarrassing

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 00:55
sorry to disappoint you gooney, but I personally don't know what the hype is all about concerning Hazard so it doesn't make one bit of difference to me if we signed him or not

I truly was paying special attention to him and he was still invisible, but if he was the best player on the pitch to you..then who am I to argue



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Billythekid (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 01:04
Someone using logic to draw a conclusion based upon observation of the facts ?

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 03:39
allright....we will see next eason after chelsea is far ahead of us and hazard one of the best in the league

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
karsene16 (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 08:19
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allright....we will see next eason after chelsea is far ahead of us and hazard one of the best in the league

What he does in the league has no relation to him being the MOTM in this game. He wasn't Belgium's best player imo.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
gooney (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 09:12
vermaelen was the best player for belgium....he was the most successful attacking player on the pitch. For example he completed 71 passes to Ashley Youngs 7 passes and Oxlades 12 passes lol. He created 6 chances according to opta stats, twice as many as any england player. He was the best attacking player on the pitch

 
Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
flynchstone (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 09:15
Another pointless thread. Ox has a great future ahead of him and Hazard will have the better season. I didn't see the game but the game doesn't matter. It's weird because there's conflicting views on both players. Regardless, it's an international friendly. It means nothing.



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
Rockstaar (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 12:34
I think most people are evaluating this game and this game only

saying he'll have a better season than OX is more than likely because for one thing knowing Wenger (based on past behaviour)...Hazard will be playing 3-4 times as much as OX



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Re: Hazard vs The Ox, let's see whats up now
SuperRob (IP Logged)
04 June, 2012 18:14
Also hazard will have better players around him.


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