zidane was class, but messi is better
International Football isn't a concern of mine. Playing in a team that is based on nationality should never be the basis in which you judge a player.
Many great players were unfortunately born in awful footballing countries, doesn't mean they should be considered lesser players.
Quote:your an idiot if your truly believe thats hes going to be remembered solely for his headbutt
Quote:going back to one of Rockstaars old points, I reckon Zidane could do a job ANYWHERE on a football pitch, and in ANY team, not sure I'd say that for Messi ...
Quote:"The average person" does not have an opinion. If you ask "the average person" what the best band of all time is they would say something stupid like The Beatles or Radiohead. They should be ignored in favor of people who at least have a serious personal interest in the subjest.
Simple fact is Messi has done more in his tender years than most legends have done across their careers.
By the time Messi hangs up his boots there won't be much room for arguing against him.
They excelled in different role's on the football pitch.
If you have allowances for those comparisons why stop there, why not work backwards and compare Messi to Vieira, then Franco Baresi then go one step further and compare him to a goalkeeper.
right tom..thats why I quoted your comment..to misinterpret it
Quote:You seemed to confuse the idea of me ignoring idiots with those who buy Beatles CD's. Very strange that.
like I said I haven't confused anything...I was pointing out that your idiots (as you call them) are the ones that keep an empire going and relevant
doesn't matter if we're talking about Zidane's legacy or (your example) people that think the Beatles are the greatest band
the average person is the ones that keep these things going..just like your pele comment..tons of people think he's the best without ever seeing him play...that's from years and years of people saying he's the best and no one could ever touch his accomplishments, so people just believe it
Its pretty much indisputable that Zidane is more famous for his headbutt than any accomplishment he's had on the pitch
nothing to dispute really
Quote:Firstly, I think you now understand my comment, but are choosing to ignore it's very basic simplicity and changed my argument.
I don't care what the masses think. Most people in the world won't know who Mark E. Smith is, but I don't care because I listen to his music and enjoy it.
If Zidane is remembered as a head-butter by the general public (largely mindless idiots) I couldn't care less, because actual football fans are never going to see it that way.
Now, this is simple even for you mate.