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Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 20:25

Yao 5 heads or Arshavin

Yao Gervinho
Andrei Arshavin

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Seeing as Yao seems to have inherited AA place on the bench.
Andrei has recently stated he is coming back next year too. His kids are still over here in an English school.

Who would you rather have on the bench.

Me.....
I'd rather have AA. But Yao just needs his confidence back. I'm sure he's got a lot more to offer than we've seen so far. But for my money, Andrei has the quality, just not the work rate.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
80'sGoona (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 21:34
Gervinho all day long. He's just suffering the effect of the ACN. We can't forget what he brought to the team pre ACN.

It's all about competition for places though

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Jack_is_the_truth (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 21:36
i think this poll is unfair



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Gunners R Us (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 21:51
I think we are seeing wit gervinho how hard it is to come into a side from the bench and instantly perform.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Boston Gooner (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 22:16
Out of the 2 it would be Arshavin for me.
Still think he can offer us something.
Have more faith in him than I do fiveheads who will probably only end up being a bench warmer, if that.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Gunners R Us (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 22:18
you have to be pragmatic about these things

from september to January gervinho did more than arshavin. Therefore if they were both to still be here, Gervinho would be playing still

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 22:29
Arshavin was awful this season.

I like Gervinho's directness, but he can't finish his dinner. I just wish his eye for goal was a 100th the size of his forehead.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 23:13
Stupid question.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Mad Jens (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 23:29
Gervinho, hands down.

Im annoyed we got rid of Arshavin but he was woeful for the most part.

Gervinho goes for a tournament, comes back a little tired and has some so-so performances and all of a sudden people are questioning him now. Thats fans for you.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Padre Pio (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 23:35
What a joke, Arshavin probably has more goals and assists than Gervinho



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Mad Jens (IP Logged)
13 March, 2012 23:38
Not this year he don't.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
14 March, 2012 00:05
There was a touch of brilliance about Arshavin at times which I think made us all love his potential but to be fair we didn’t see much of it in 2011. His body language at times was awful, first off the pitch at the end of the game no matter what the result and his pitchside warm ups as a sub were laughable. What Paddy Rice was doing I don’t know but all AA did was a few gentle stretching exercises and spent most of the time watching the game.
Gerv seems to have a good change of pace which deceives defenders. I think he’s going to be very effective in the future if he can get a bit of confidence in front of goal.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Gööfle11 (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 02:32
Gervinho is obviously the best option.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Indiangooner (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 04:14
can some1 pull the stats on mins per goal n mins per assists for them both this season????

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Kalela (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 04:25
Gervinho for me.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 06:01
Arshavin, bendtner, and denilson should never get anywhere near arsenal again.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Amit_rulesworld (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 08:20
Vela

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Indiangooner (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 08:32
Quote:
Amit_rulesworld
Vela

(Sm145)

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Amit_rulesworld (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 08:38
Vela for me

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 11:03
Yeah, you said.
Not in the question though is he!!

It's a valid question too. 10-4 at the moment. Not a white wash as some seem to believe.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
karsene16 (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 11:09
Gervinho for me.

The fitness of Arshavin makes him a striker or nothing these days, which doesn't work in a 4-3-3/4-5-1.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
holzini (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 14:32
hidden answer ....---> SĂ©bastien Squillaci !

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Mad Jens (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 14:37
Quote:
Indiangooner
can some1 pull the stats on mins per goal n mins per assists for them both this season????

Sure thing. I nominate Indiangooner.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Indiangooner (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 16:41
Quote:
Mad Jens
Quote:
Indiangooner
can some1 pull the stats on mins per goal n mins per assists for them both this season????

Sure thing. I nominate Indiangooner.

better idea wld be to nominate Amit as Manager (Sm159)

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
BootyDaddy (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 16:57
And promote Chamakh to no.1 striker and drop RVp to the bench.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Mad Jens (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 17:21
Oh god.

The sad thing is Amit probably would...

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
SuperRöb (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 17:25
you can easily find stats like that on espn soccernet.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Indiangooner (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 18:57
AA: 1 goal n 3 assists

Gerv: 4 goals n 5 assists

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
nhoj14 (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 19:23
Apparently Arshavin has been terrible so far in both games for Zenit. The russian press think he's overweight, lazy and not committed to the cause. He has been subbed in both games and is said to be a lot slower than the rest of the team and is slowing the team's play down. After seeing our recent performances of the team and players who play in his position I hope he never plays for Arsenal again. Just don't think we'll be able to get any money for him.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
weedz (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 20:20
AA for me. And easily too.

Yao has not had enough time at our club to be judged on yet, IMO.

Yao has played 5 full games for us in only 20 starts. Pretty hard to make a comprehensive analysis on that showing.

AA has had over 90 starts and even this season has played 8 full games.

A bit of knee-jerk happening on this subject. Yao has got to do a lot more before you can say he`s the better forward.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Flava (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 21:42
Gervinho thinks too much of himself, he's such a bighead.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
14 March, 2012 22:43
Gervinho is our second best attacker after VanPersei.
Arshavin is worse than silvestre and denilson, considering how much he cost. If our biggest ever signing could be loan out to a small club at a time when our squad was so depleted, then he's gotta be one of our worst players ever.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
karsene16 (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 09:01
Quote:
De Times
Gervinho is our second best attacker after VanPersei.
Arshavin is worse than silvestre and denilson, considering how much he cost. If our biggest ever signing could be loan out to a small club at a time when our squad was so depleted, then he's gotta be one of our worst players ever.

We were in serious trouble 2008-09 he came in and got us in the champions league with 12 appearances 6 goals 9 assists. Can't be the worst player ever.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 11:37
He only scored against liverpool, wigan and blackburn in his best half season ever.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
karsene16 (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 11:49
Quote:
De Times
He only scored against liverpool, wigan and blackburn in his best half season ever.

erm..assists?



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 11:58
Assists mean nothing if most of them are from set pieces.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
younghansolo (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 12:40
They're totally different players imo. Wide left I'd have to say Gervinho probably but if it were a case of it doesnt matter what position they play we just have to choose one to play I'd say Arshavin. He's a far more talented player. On his day one of the best in the world. Look at Rosicky, same age and has got it back. Arshavin can too.

Gervinho isnt a clever footballer, he's a tremendous athlete, great dribbler and that is incredibly useful for a winger.

but Arshavin is a finisher, a chance creator and has vision Gervinho can only dream of. I don't think I'll ever see gervinho score four goals in a game let alone of the quality Arshavin managed. Or the goal he scored against united.

Ideally I'd play Andre in the middle and gervinho out wide interchanged with ox and theo but that wasn't the question

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 12:57
Quote:
De Times
Assists mean nothing if most of them are from set pieces.

Strange thing to say DT.
Couldn't care less if the assist comes from a throw in, so long as we score.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Amit_rulesworld (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 19:13
Vela 5 goals 7 assists.
For a inferior side like sociedad.
He is younger better quicker and more accurate in scoring goals than arshavin and gervinho.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 20:20
Quote:
Philly the kid
Quote:
De Times
Assists mean nothing if most of them are from set pieces.

Strange thing to say DT.
Couldn't care less if the assist comes from a throw in, so long as we score.
Me too, but i wouldnt allow it impair my judgement as to the overall quality of the player making the throw-in or taking the corner etc.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
weedz (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 20:48
Quote:
De Times
Gervinho is our second best attacker after VanPersei.
Arshavin is worse than silvestre and denilson, considering how much he cost. If our biggest ever signing could be loan out to a small club at a time when our squad was so depleted, then he's gotta be one of our worst players ever.

What`s `cost` got to do with anything? Nothing. We payed over 10m pounds for Yao and only 2.7m for RvP.

In saying that AA is worse than Silvestre or Deck-chair, you`re using your emotion, not your mind, to make that appraisal.

It`s as silly as saying who`s the better player, Park or Bendtner? How can you make a serious judgement? We have not seen enough of either Yao or Parky to make a judgement.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
De Times (IP Logged)
15 March, 2012 22:55
Weedz, park cost ÂŁ2.7m, and is on about 40k a week. Arshavin cost ÂŁ15m and earns 90k a week.
Any player wenger signs from 6m to 15m is normally a big hit. The price of the player therefore matters alot. Caroll and Torres wouldnt be such a flop if they wernt bought for so much money.

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
weedz (IP Logged)
16 March, 2012 00:06
If you set your standards on how much a player is paid, as the bench-mark of what he has to produce, as you have just explained it to me. You then must take into account players who are getting underpaid for their product.

RvP would then be entitled to 200k/wk and Chesney would a 80k/wk 21 yr old GK and so-on. It`s not a good way of looking at the subject

Mate, I recognise that AAs contribution to our club has not been up to scratch. And for parts of last season and even more-so this season, he has been plain flakey. All up we`ve seen about half an hour of great football this season from him, out of 8 starts and a few subs.

I would even agree with you that he is, at present, over-paid.

But when AA does it right, he does it better than either Ox or Yao. It`s that thing they call class. Somewhere inside of him he has that. We have all seen it. We have not seen that same class, that same skill-level in either Ox or Yao yet, IMO.

Not saying Ox or 5heads wont happen. Just that the perceived gap between them is not as clear-cut as you say.

I still believe there`s still a place in our squad for him. At 30+, he`s got no real re sale value, unless it`s silly money. So why not run his contract down and use him where he best fits the needs of our squad.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
16 March, 2012 11:08
Another point could be, without AA in training. Who do the younger lads learn class from?

 
Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
karsene16 (IP Logged)
16 March, 2012 11:14
Quote:
Philly the kid
Another point could be, without AA in training. Who do the younger lads learn class from?

Wenger.



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Re: Poll: Who would you rather play.....
Philly the kid (IP Logged)
16 March, 2012 11:55
........and in terms of skill on the pitch?!


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