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Independant Article on Bishoff
Discussion started by Gooner_Mike , 31 July, 2008 00:48
Independant Article on Bishoff
Gooner_Mike 31 July, 2008 00:48
Wenger seeks to work old magic on 'Werder nobody'

By Sam Wallace
Thursday, 31 July 2008

When Amaury Bischoff first told Werder Bremen at the end of last month that he was leaving the Bundesliga club for Arsenal, the German tabloid Bild responded in typically blunt fashion. "Werder nobody signs for Arsenal" was their take on a player who surely proves there is no limit to Arsène Wenger's belief that he can build a team out of hitherto undiscovered talent.


Arsenal completed their third signing of the summer yesterday with the free transfer of the Portuguese midfielder, who had refused to sign a new contract for Werder. Virtually unknown in Portugal, and notoriously injury-prone so far in his career, the 21-year-old is not exactly the big-name signing anticipated of Wenger all summer.

Remarkably he has played just 16 minutes of senior football for Werder, as a substitute against Celta Vigo in the Uefa Cup last year. Arsenal have tracked his progress for some time but waited until this summer to pick him up on a Bosman free transfer and to check that he would recover from his injuries. Bischoff has undergone two operations on his groin, although the club said this week that he would be fit to join up with the squad for this weekend's Emirates Cup games.

As leftfield signings go, this has the potential to be Wenger's greatest coup yet, on the proviso that Bischoff turns out to be as good as the Arsenal manager hopes he is. While Wenger has often cast his net wide in order to sign players from Africa and South America, this particular player has come from very close to home. Bischoff's father is French, from Alsace to be precise, which is the region where Wenger grew up as a child in the post-war era.

It is through his Portuguese mother that Bischoff qualifies to play for Portugal, despite having represented France at Under-18 level. He has chosen to be available for the Portugal Under-21 side, although injuries have prevented him from actually playing for them yet despite having been called up for squads. The Portuguese Football Federation was alerted to Bischoff by the Portugal striker Hugo Almeida, who plays at Werder.

Despite his having made minimal impact at senior level with Werder, their technical director Klaus Allofs tried hard to persuade Bischoff to stay at the club but he rejected the new deals offered to him. The Portuguese Football Federation had called him up to play in the Under-20 World Cup in Canada last year but injury prevented him from playing. They were suspicious that Werder discouraged the player because they were concerned about him being scouted by bigger European clubs.

Few escape the eye of Wenger and his scouts, however, and Bischoff, who can play in the centre of midfield or on the right, has a good chance of figuring this season with Gilberto Silva and Mathieu Flamini already departed. His age means that he can no longer be considered one of the kids, certainly not by Arsenal's standards – he is 35 days older than Cesc Fabregas.

It is understood that Wenger has not ruled out considering Jack Wilshere, the precocious 16-year-old from Hertfordshire who has played for Arsenal this summer, as a first-team player once the season begins. With two goals in a 10-2 friendly win in Austria, Wilshere has about as much senior experience as Bischoff, who has played for the amateur French side SR Colmar as well as Strasbourg, where Wenger himself had a brief but forgettable stint as a player in the Seventies.

(source: Independant)
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Not going to judge Bishoff, not until ive seen him play, but anyone who says Wenger doesnt have a little bias towards him is a liar.

I really hope there are is another siging or two to come though, a goalkeeper and a centre back are at the top of my wish list, a new goalkeeper primarily as we had 2 good ones last season and only 1 half proven one this term.

We lost 2 first team regulars this summer (flamini, hleb) and brought in 1 (nasri - for the 1st team) and 4 who might be in the mix after a few months/seasons of integration (Ramsey, Coquelin, Bishoff, Vela*) only Nasri is ready to jump in I reckon, so have we really strengthened the team enough in any department??

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Immovable object 31 July, 2008 00:55
haha what a ridiculous argument. Wenger signed him because he was born where Wenger grew up and played at a club that Wenger did. Yeah, sure.

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Padre Pio 31 July, 2008 00:56
He has also brought in Vela who looks a real possibility in the here and now, but there isnt an expensive transfer fee so he doesnt count.

Ramsey is not far away either and even though he cost £5 million is not as advanced as Vela, but probably more advanced than Walcott at the same age.

Wenger has spent his budget on a youth farm, thats his strategy - its not free it still costs. Now you can agree or disagree that its right or wrong, but its central to Wenger's strategy.

He might buy a centre back if he cant make one out of string and old toilet rolls

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
ArsenalForever 31 July, 2008 01:09
the next arsene wenger???

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Gooner_Mike 31 July, 2008 01:51
He might buy a centre back if he cant make one out of string and old toilet rolls (Sm22)

True about the youth farm, but Wenger promised he would be taking his "chequebook to the euros". So surely he had a bit of dosh to spend. If you take into account the ~ £5 mill we will recieve from the Bentley transfer that means that our net spend is about 1 million pounds, if not less, so really weve had to sell to buy, does that add up considering sources said we had atleast 20 mill to bolster the squad which is a fair figure.

And AF, I agree I feel Bishoff may be an understudy to Wenger (Sm60)

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Padre Pio 31 July, 2008 09:03
I would like to see him buy a quality CB - are there any available?

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
perrygroves 31 July, 2008 09:53
woodgate...

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
ArsenalForever 31 July, 2008 10:13
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger admits he's taking a gamble on signing Werder Bremen winger Amaury Bischoff.

He said: "Bischoff is a new player that is young and promising with talent. He has had a long break due to surgeries on his groin injury and we may have to wait two to three months for him to reach full fitness, and it is a gamble on his talent."

thank god he came for free

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
~-X-Gooner-4-Life-X-~ 31 July, 2008 10:41
dont panic...he will be a a sqaud /back up player..to strengthen only...then he can go on from there...

this is certainly no replacememnt for flamini

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Optimistic Gunner 31 July, 2008 16:01
Quote:
Padre Pio
I would like to see him buy a quality CB - are there any available?

I know Padre, but if Man U can find Vidic and Liverpool can find Agger and Skrtel, then why can't we find someone?



http://i.imgur.com/b1SeVpw.png

Re: Independant Article on Bishoff
Merlion96 31 July, 2008 16:43
I think he has a target in mind after wathcing Euro 2008.

But the price may not be right.

And if buying a CB, who wil be on the bench?
Kolo if Gallas is stil the Captain?

Then we will have one very unhappy quality CB if Wenegr buys a quality CB, age between 24 to 27 year old.

And meaning Senderos or DJourou will not have a future here.
And Nordtveit palying time will be very much reduced as well.


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