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So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:21

Rumours are sweeping the web that Arsenal will next season bring out a new shirt to celebrate 125 years of Arsenal and that it will be a replica of the first ever kit(an old nottingham forrest strip), two thinks that seem to be confusing alot of people is

1. will it be a kit for just a one off game at christmas or will it be for the whole season

2. what colour was the first strip, many seem to think it was the maroon like the one Arsenal wore in 2005/2006 for last season at Highbury, but that strip was to replicate the strip worn in first season at Highbury, many say our first strip was a red similar to what we wear now.

so does anyone know what colour it was, also I know it did not have white sleeves, that was a Chapman inovation, so will the club go back on its promise that our next strip will have white sleeves after so many complaints about the lack of white in this seasons strip

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: celine dion (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:22

black and white mate.





I makes meself laugh.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:26

to borrow a phrase from tom god awful,

most pointless comment ever


but funny celine(Sm126)

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:31

I just thought of something on this topic, would it not be season 2011/12 that we should be celebrating 125 years and not as reported by these sites 2010/11, as it would be christmas 2011 that would mark the foundation of Arsenal

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: celine dion (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:32

To make a serious point, I tend to ignore the world of Arsenal merchandise. I normally have a home shirt which I wear about the house (never to games). I get my 2 year old shirts but I'm not sure how long for because he still says he supports Chelsea the little f*cker.

But apart from that I have never been a one for Arsenal dressing gowns tracksuit tops or god help us the 'executive range' of travel suitcases, ties, embossed shirts etc. Horrible horrible horrible.

But last week before the game I went into the armoury, to try and find a baseball cap because my head was cold, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing, it was like the Harrods sale, you couldn't MOVE for people fighting over tracksuit bottoms, Arsenal jumpers, wooly hats, scarves with huge pictures of theo walcott on them, etc etc. It was seriously like Tescos a day before xmas. It completely changed my view on why football clubs concentrate on merchandise, there were people buying literally HUNDREDS of pounds worth of poor quality sh*te.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:42

well I hope that I can make it to the game that celebrates 125 years of Arsenal, I was at the game that marked 100 years of arsenal christmas 1986

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: celine dion (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:45

If you want me to sort you out a seat mate, and I am being serious because you are obviously a committed Arsenal fan, let me know nearer the time.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:52

thanks Celine, if I can make it to the game I will take you up on your offer,

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: celine dion (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 21:54

just a quick one, my set up changes from year to year. At the minute I can get 2-3 seats to any home game. Could change next year, but hopefully it wouldn't.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 22:07

well we will see closer to the time, God knows what will change in next two years

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 15 January, 2010 23:12

We didnt win the league in bkack and white. Unlike Spurs, who will celebrate the 50 years since they won the league.
Hey 2011 has a one in it, in fcat two ones. They might win two trophies.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 16 January, 2010 02:55

Quote:
celine dion
To make a serious point, I tend to ignore the world of Arsenal merchandise. I normally have a home shirt which I wear about the house (never to games). I get my 2 year old shirts but I'm not sure how long for because he still says he supports Chelsea the little f*cker.
But apart from that I have never been a one for Arsenal dressing gowns tracksuit tops or god help us the 'executive range' of travel suitcases, ties, embossed shirts etc. Horrible horrible horrible.

But last week before the game I went into the armoury, to try and find a baseball cap because my head was cold, and I couldn't believe what I was seeing, it was like the Harrods sale, you couldn't MOVE for people fighting over tracksuit bottoms, Arsenal jumpers, wooly hats, scarves with huge pictures of theo walcott on them, etc etc. It was seriously like Tescos a day before xmas. It completely changed my view on why football clubs concentrate on merchandise, there were people buying literally HUNDREDS of pounds worth of poor quality sh*te.


its the sort of people the club want.

sit down in silence all game and spend plenty in the merchandise shops.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 17 March, 2010 22:58

The official history says the kit was red, no mention of plum or maroon. the team was know as the "Reds"



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
Danny Blanchflower

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 17 March, 2010 23:04

can anyone clear up for certain which season we celebrate the 125 years, several sites who have "EXCLUSIVES" mock ups of what the 125 year shirt will be all say its 2010/11 but surely it has to be 2011/12 as its christmas 2011 that marks 125 years of Arsenal, the 100th was in 1986/87 season as far as I can recall, I was at the game

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 17 March, 2010 23:41

Christmas Day 1886 to Xmas 2011 seems to be 125 years to me.
That would have been 1886-7 season so it was Xmas of season commencing 1886 so surely its seasson commencing 2011?



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
Danny Blanchflower

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: PKGooner (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:01

This'd look class



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Shimmi147 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:13

in American, the launch date reads January 6th, 2010.


but im guessing it's June 1st?



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:17

pk that will not be it cos fly emirates is way too small, on that shirt its the size it would be on a polo shirt, also why is that team photo part of it, cos its aint the 70/71 or 71/72 squad so what would the 69/70 or the 72/73 seasons have any significance on 125

one other thing the club aint going to have anyother badge on it except todays one as its the only one the club has copywrite over and so anyother can be reproduced and club makes no money from, just another fake I'd say

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rambo_16 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:35

125th anniversary? Hardly a major one isit really? All just a marketing ploy.

I'm not gonna get the Arsenal shirt this time unless it has white sleeves. Am I asking for too much?



"Rome wasn't built in a day. But I wasn't on that particular job."

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Super Hans (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:39

It has white sleeves, you will find.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rambo_16 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:49

Quote:
Goofle
It has white sleeves, you will find.

The leaked image has yes, well done. But this wouldnt be the first time that a leaked kit is completely wrong.

Whether it's a 125th anniversary ploy or what I don't really care, just aslong as it has white sleeves!



"Rome wasn't built in a day. But I wasn't on that particular job."

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:51

Gazidis has promised a fans forum that it will have white sleeves

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rambo_16 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:53

Quote:
eduardo
Gazidis has promised a fans forum that it will have white sleeves

Thanks for that, I hope he keeps that promise (and I'm sure he will).

Isit also true the Clock End is coming back?

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 00:56

clock end, north bank, east and west stands all coming back

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rambo_16 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 01:00

Quote:
eduardo
clock end, north bank, east and west stands all coming back

Excellent! Gazidis is really bringing a homely feeling to the E******* and I applaud him for it.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: TheCharlieGeorgeist (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 14:03

Clock INSIDE!

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Simon68 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 14:11

Padre should know what colour our first shirt was as I think he was there.

He's probably forgotten as his memory isn't what it was!

Anyway, I think you'll find it wasn't black and white, it was sepia.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 16:00

problem is the old memory Simon



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
Danny Blanchflower

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Chapman's Ghost (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 16:50

Are you really Arsenal fans?

The first kit was red. It was actually the same kit
as Nottingham Forest's as the fledgling club couldn't
afford a kit so one of the Arsenal players wrote to
Forest asking for help. Forest generously sent them
a set of red shirts and a ball (not sure what colour
that was).

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 17:08

Yes we do know that GC, but the issue is what shade of red.
As I posted earlier their nickname was the reds



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
Danny Blanchflower

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Chapman's Ghost (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 17:15

Ok my mistake. I'm not sure of the actual hue but I imagine
it's much like the colour Forest wore for years, that
is the colour of their kit in the 70's.

Have they changed their kit colours that often?

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Lewis1886 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 17:18

It was Forest red, Chapman gave us white sleevs for distinction.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Chapman's Ghost (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:07

Never heard of Forest red. Forest green yes.
Thing we want to know is what shade of red.
For that we might need a Forest fan.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Lewis1886 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:14

bloody red?

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rockstaar (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:32

Quote:
I'm not gonna get the Arsenal shirt this time unless it has white sleeves. Am I asking for too much?


thumbs down



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Super Hans (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:34

I will buy whatever they throw at me. Makes no difference as long as it looks nice.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Rockstaar (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:36

not me..I want my white sleeves..I have send numerous emails to arsenal

no more Man U shirts or Chelsea and Spuds away kits

red and white
yellow and blue



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Super Hans (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 18:38

I agree with that concept, but I dont care if there is a little red on the sleeve if it looks good. The latest hone shirt is very very nice, as was the last one.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Padre Pio (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 21:54

Yet by the time they got to Highbury they were allegedly wearing "Plum" - where did that come from?



The game is about Glory. It is about doing things in style with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom".
Danny Blanchflower

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Lewis1886 (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 22:01

did it have something to do with Charlton seeing as we were near them, when we moved we changed to plum to stop the comparison? Stab in the dark there from me.

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: eduardo (IP Logged)
Date: 18 March, 2010 22:29

there is talk that the shirt for the 125th will be only for one game at christmas 2011 and that it will be all red just like the very first one, and that the new shirt in the summer for the next two seasons will for certain have white sleeves, and that one that is being copied from Arseblog is a fake, main two reasons are wrong crest(only the modern crest is copywrited by the club) and sponsors logo way way too small(no sponsor would alow it)

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 19 March, 2010 01:18

Quote:
Rockstaar
not me..I want my white sleeves..I have send numerous emails to arsenal
no more Man U shirts or Chelsea and Spuds away kits

red and white
yellow and blue

Agreed.

However I did buy our current home shirt to show my support.



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Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Lewis1886 (IP Logged)
Date: 19 March, 2010 04:35

The last shirt I got was the 06/07 home shirt with EBOUE 27 on the back I got it on the day of the Bergkamp testimonial. It has the old style premiership printing on the back. I missed out on the 'new' one as it's not to my liking so I opted for a training top instead

Re: So what colour was the first Arsenal shirt
Posted by: Optimistic Gunner (IP Logged)
Date: 20 March, 2010 14:22

Ok so according to wikipedia our first home shirts colour was a dark shade of red and was worn with white shorts and blue socks.

Quote:
wikipedia
For much of Arsenal's history, their home colours have been bright red shirts with white sleeves and white shorts, though this has not always been the case. The choice of red is in recognition of a charitable donation from Nottingham Forest, soon after Arsenal's foundation in 1886. Two of Dial Square's founding members, Fred Beardsley and Morris Bates, were former Forest players who had moved to Woolwich for work. As they put together the first team in the area, no kit could be found, so Beardsley and Bates wrote home for help and received a set of kit and a ball. The shirt was redcurrant, a dark shade of red, and was worn with white shorts and blue socks.

LINK


While according to historicalkits.co.uk our our first home shirts colour was "Garibaldi Red" shirts, a richer and darker shade than the conventional red.

Quote:
The club's first red and white strip wasarsenal crest 1888 donated by Nottingham Forest. At the time, Forest wore "Garibaldi Red" shirts, a richer and darker shade than the conventional red. It appears that the club retained this shade (aside from 1895-96) until the famous white sleeves were added in the 1930s.

I would like to see our old school Arsenal monogram in the 12th 125th anniversary shirt:

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Arsenal/crests/crest-1927-facf.jpg



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