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Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
29 January, 2010 11:21
you back sliding, word twisting, dishonest worm - you really should stand as an independent at the next election TC



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
29 January, 2010 11:33
INDEPENDENT? More of a `main-stream` (acceptable these days) trick isn't it.

Watched a bit of Question Time last night & heard Lawson (ex chancellor) mention summat about him setting up some group to discount, or at least discuss logically, the hysteria of `climate change`. Most seemed to disagree with his views, but, he wasn't jeered or shouted down as usually happens....maybe the tide is turning slowly.

It was also mentioned about the `scientists` @ East Anglia Uni acting unlawfully under the freedom of information act.

I read about it somewhere, but apparently, they can't be prosecuted because of some time-limit. Amazing isn't it that certain groups are immune from the law.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
29 January, 2010 11:53
Yeah - seems you have 6 months but the appeals process to the University takes longer than that

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7004936.ece



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
ManHug (IP Logged)
29 January, 2010 13:53
Thinks its all a complete waste of manpower and money - its just a load of garbage.

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
29 January, 2010 14:15
Oh Manhug, it's far far worse than that.



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
ManHug (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 14:06
Go on then...

Its completely made up, like ghosts, UFOs and fat free chocolate

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 14:21
You know all those mad conspiracy theorists - you now the once with tin foil hats?

Well it's looking like maybe they had a reason to be suspicious....













(by the way a tin foil hat is not required)



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 16:44

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 19:38
It now seems that claims about ice disappearing from the world's mountain peaks & glaciers, by the climate change panel, was based on a students essay and an article in a mountaineering magazine.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 19:39
Bloody brainwashed kids!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
02 February, 2010 19:44
Huge chunks of the IPCC report, the 'Climate Change Bible', the basis of the Stern report? Based on unverified articles by Greenpeace and the WWF - which means it is less reliable, balanced and lacking in bias than if Vince McMahon from the other WWF (now WWE) had written it.



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
16 February, 2010 00:53
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Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
16 February, 2010 10:00
I saw that a while ago FOY. I didn't put it up because of who it was & just thought it would automatically discredit us non-believers, (Sm14) but he does speak the truth.


Professor Phil Jones, the academic whose data has been the bedrock of much of the hype/cr@p, has conceded that there has been no statistically significant warming during the past 15+ years & that there were two other periods of warming during the 1900's.
Also, at least parts of the world, were probably warmer in medieval times than now ....centuries before the industrial revolution even began!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
16 February, 2010 11:53
Quote:
I saw that a while ago FOY. I didn't put it up because of who it was & just thought it would automatically discredit us non-believers, but he does speak the truth.

The truth is out there,does it really matter who tells us the truth?



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
16 February, 2010 12:21
You're right, it shouldn't! Unfortunately there are too many small-minded, brainwashed folk about.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
17 February, 2010 16:21
So what do the teachers teach the kids these days?

Not about the natural phenomenon of the sun i presume...?



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
17 February, 2010 21:26
Climate researcher Martin Parry, while speaking about criticism of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said;

"The IPCC is not like a political party with a manifesto that it's preaching ......."

Who's he kidding? (Sm9)



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
17 February, 2010 21:44
Not moi!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
17 February, 2010 22:34
Quote:
The Collector

"The IPCC is not like a political party with a manifesto that it's preaching ......."


I can understand the preaching bit, it's very much like a religion with the Spanish Inquisition for dissenters and heretics.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ClanClaret (IP Logged)
18 February, 2010 12:08
global warming by homo sapians mi ar$e. the earth does it on its own without help from US. but the good thing is, we humans can make the planet cleaner and healthier which is the good thing that comes out of this global warming myth.(Sm126)(Sm63)

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
18 February, 2010 13:27
At a bloody price though Clan



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ClanClaret (IP Logged)
18 February, 2010 13:37
f.o.y. at a price yeah right. but a good price in the end.
everything has a price tag on it, even whinny the POO, tha nuw.(Sm126)(Sm63)

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
18 February, 2010 13:40
At a price that is unnecassary



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
19 February, 2010 14:56
From an article in The Washington Times; [www.washingtontimes.com]

`Joseph D'Aleo, (the first director of meteorology and co-founder of the Weather Channel) and Anthony Watts, (a meteorologist and founder of SurfaceStations.org) are well-known and well-respected scientists.

On Jan. 29, they released a startling study showing that starting in 1990, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) began systematically eliminating climate-measuring stations in cooler locations around the world.
Eliminating stations that tended to record cooler temperatures drove up the average measured temperature.

The stations eliminated were in higher latitudes and altitudes, inland areas away from the sea and more rural locations.
The drop in the number of weather stations was dramatic, declining from more than 6,000 stations to fewer than 1,500.`


Hmmm, surely not!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
19 February, 2010 21:03
Saw a new book on climate-change in the Library yesterday so, being fair-minded, I had a peek at it. Over 200 pages of unremitting doom and gloom all based on hundreds of horrendous statistics which, although some seemed dubious to me, were stated as indisputable fact.

On the discussion about renewable energy sources it was claimed that Nuclear was unreliable as, in an ever warming world, the water supplies to cool the reactors could not be relied upon. The book then went on to push the case for Windpower without ever mentioning the intrinsic unreliability of this energy source due to the simple fact that when the wind drops the blades don't turn.

What is the matter with these people ? Why are they so deluded ? You can argue, if you want, the case for Windpower over Nuclear, but to claim that Wind Turbines, which don't function when the wind drops, are a more reliable source of energy than Nuclear because some rivers might dry up at some unknowable time in the future is just plain bloody stupid.

The more I read and hear on this subject the more I'm confused. Is this one the cleverest scams of all time or the product of an co-incidental almagamation of chancers and halfwits ?



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
20 February, 2010 07:12
Far too many folk are gullible,the powers that be play on that.

That is the problem we have to live with!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
25 February, 2010 22:45
[www.guardian.co.uk]



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
08 March, 2010 23:56
More evidence of the cover-up. They really can't come clean about anything:-

[www.timesonline.co.uk]



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 00:27
"..Only three hours sleep a night is torture"


Tell that to the guys & dolls in Iraq & Afghanistan you pompous pampered gits!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 00:39
Quote:
F.O.Y.L.O.T.
"..Only three hours sleep a night is torture"

Tell that to the guys & dolls in Iraq & Afghanistan you pompous pampered gits!

If you like a comfy, warm bed and 8 hours sleep a night, why would you join the Army ?



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
fulledgelad (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 00:47
8 HOURS SLEEP A NIGHT???..i'm buzzing if i get four!



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 10:35
The global-warmers`climate-changeists` have been relatively quiet this last 3 months, I bet they can't wait for summer to arrive. eye rolling smiley

They seem to be focusing on `methane` again atm, being released from the seas.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ClanClaret (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 13:03
not to bother, it all comes to a big END on the 21st December 2012 Armageddon.(Sm78)(Sm126)(Sm63)

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
ozchippie (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 13:12
[quote clanclaret]not to bother, it all comes to a big END on the 21st December 2012 Armageddon.(Sm78)(Sm126)(Sm63Acc) According to a people who are no longer whith us.What happened to them? Did they get their dates wrong?

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
Braindead (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 13:17
I wondered that about the Mayans - if they were so advanced and had the answers to when time will end - why did they not forsee the end of their own race at the hands of the Spanish in the 16th century?



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ozchippie (IP Logged)
09 March, 2010 13:22
Like I Said then,wrong dates, big party big fight ,lights out.!

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
06 April, 2010 11:11
All seems fairly/relatively quiet from the doom-sayers atm, I bet they can't wait for a long, hot, Indian summer. (me too if i'm honest (Sm3)) They will already have their stats prepared to un-leash upon us as soon as they can!

So thought i'd point out, before they retreat again, the Arctic ice-cap has now expanded to normal levels for the time of year.

Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Colorado, said; “In retrospect, the reactions to the 2007 melt were overstated. The lesson is that we must be more careful in not reading too much into one event.” ....No 5h!t Sherlock. (Sm109)



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ManHug (IP Logged)
06 April, 2010 11:20
The money and time put into this 'Global Warming' drive over the last decade or so is scary, its criminal.

Then people have the nerve to say we waste money in War!

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
21 June, 2010 10:08
On it goes.....

[www.telegraph.co.uk]



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
21 June, 2010 10:24
was blind but now I see



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
pipindripin (IP Logged)
21 June, 2010 19:46
Always thought it was one of the bandwagons that the ne'er do wells have jumped on, a bit like your C.N.D. lot of 2 decades ago, or the hole in the ozone layer that was going to destroy us all( wonder what happened to that hole) or the people who said when we had a severe drought in the 70s that it is so severe that the water table would take 50 years to normalise when it in fact it normalised over the following winter, the same people who say you are never more than 10 yds from a rat. Funny isnt it that all these people who issue these warnings have a vested interest in issuing these negative statements ? Most of these scientists have never achieved much in their life or done a proper job, and are only there because the standards of qualification have been lowered & lowered. The person who shouts the loudest or the man who plays the bass drum will be heard most comes to mind.

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
The Collector (IP Logged)
21 June, 2010 20:54
bc, the new Burnley MP is pushing for Government funding to bring the development of a new wind turbine to the town.

Burnley Campus(UCLan) have helped to create what they believe to be the most efficient wind turbine in the world! So if they're paying to NOT use them at present, why spend money on a new design?

Great for the local job market though if they're produced here I guess.



There's also been a survey published eye rolling smiley by the North West Climate Change Partnership which says over the next 10 years 25% of the 3 million workers in the region will need some level of skills enhancement in order to make the transition to a low carbon economy.

The report, entitled ‘Assessment of the Skills Need and Provision for a Low Carbon North West’ (Sm45) highlights how reducing carbon emissions is paramount for the region’s economic vitality and environmental wellbeing.

To reach the North West’s goal to become less carbon intensive, 70,000+ regional employees per year will need some level of training in new climate change-related skills over the next 10 years to equip themselves for the economic transition ahead.
Over half of them will have to incorporate a professional understanding and industrial knowledge of how their job role will have to adapt.

A sample selection of expertise required for a low carbon economy ranges from knowledge in sustainable procurement, green construction and biofuel production to offshore wind energy installation, energy efficient product design and specialised environmental service advice.

These `greens` are well entrenched now eh (like the lefties in education etc)

Oh & who's gonna pay for all this? (Sm163)



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Panorama 8.30 TONIGHT - Global Warming
ManHug (IP Logged)
28 June, 2010 20:18
Tonights covers the modern (cough, bollox) myth of Global Warming.

Should be a good 'un.

I know there was a thread in here recently where quite a few of you seemed interested in the subject so just thought I'd highlight it smiling smiley

I'd 'search' for said thread but I'm on my
Mobile, with 'one bar' of signal and it's on in 15 mins.

Just a heads up anyway - hope it pours more water on the claims.

 
Re: Panorama 8.30 TONIGHT - Global Warming
The Collector (IP Logged)
28 June, 2010 20:28
Cheers for the heads up, I'm recording it.

Can't see it poo pooing the idea tbh & it'll be interesting to see if it's a `balanced` proggy.

Merged threads.



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Re: Panorama 8.30 TONIGHT - Global Warming
unclegroucho (IP Logged)
28 June, 2010 20:40
My post disapeared in the merge



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
ManHug (IP Logged)
28 June, 2010 20:43
Not a great start.

Hilarious "Hitler Youth" comments from nowhere, I was crying with laughter grinning smiley

No time for Green lot hasn't ManHug.


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Re: Global warming. A myth?
PlymouthClaret (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 13:54
Been a while since TC posted on here and bumped this one up.

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

We know the models are wrong because the top layer in the met office model is cloud and the middle layers where all this nasty carbon dioxide accumulates is not warming at all. All the warming is happening at ground level.

In addition to this, if the data you put into the models comes from places where the data is compromised then this makes things much worse. Most of the data collected these days comes from airports and with well placed equipment like the following, it's little wonder this unrepresentative data shows we are undergoing global warming at ground level next to jet engines at an airport

I've recently also seen some wonderful photographs of weather stations at airports in Nigeria, weather equipment infested with ants, weather equipment deployed with protective caps meant to provide protection during shipping. If the equipment cannot even be installed and maintained properly then what's the point.

[wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com]

Nothing wrong with providing representative weather data to pilots landing planes but definitely something wrong with using this data in climate models.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
Longsiders1882 (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 14:00
Good science does not need to be fiddled - if there was solid evidence for this we'd have seen it.



"A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

 
Re: Global warming. A myth?
bordeauxclaret (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 16:26
And in the meantime, the windmills keep on turning, well when the wind blows anyway, and we keep paying the subsidies. Daftest idea since the euro, and like the euro, in ten years time we'll all be wondering why so many fell for it.



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Re: Global warming. A myth?
PlymouthClaret (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 16:47
This is what happens when our turbines take advantage of the strong winds which they say makes the UK the ideal place for wind turbines.

[i.dailymail.co.uk]

So... it's either not windy so there's no electricity, it's windy but not enough to be economical or it's too windy and they have to turn them off.



Truth is, I thought it mattered. I thought that music mattered. But does it bollocks. Not compared to how people matter.

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