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Did anyone have the misfortune to see his speech yesterday, when he told his gathered party they were lucky to have someone like Nichola Sturgeon, her problem is that she is too compassionate, what a load of bollocks,

we are more than lucky to have someone of the undoubted quality of Jimmy Krankie as our deputy president of the toy town executive.

As a wee treat for all the boys here's wee Jimmy using some nifty wrist action to keep a cock up.

Dear Christ! I never realized how much she looks like the b'astard offspring of Eric Faulkner and Herman Munster.

arthur & older B.

Im sure i dont need to tell you what their policies are. im sure you know them all well and dont agree so why waste my time?
its quite clear you dont have time for snp like i dont have time for labour.
Also i could give you plenty of things labour have done that are just as bad as the things snp have done so get off your high horse ffs.
but again why bother.
feel free to continue giving labour your vote and let them treat you like muppets.

Speaking as someone who has voted for Labour in the past, I wonder for how much longer will the other people of Airdrie continue to take it up the @$$ from their local Labour representatives whilst reassuring themselves "that it's better than having an SNP MP".

I'm not pro-Independence, but I'm willing to give Sophia Coyle a chance to show whether she can be a good constituency MP after years of neglect by John Smith, Helen Liddell and the current absentee Labour tennant of the post.

I reckon her service as a councillor at least entitles her to that, especially in the face of Labour's rejection of similarly experienced candidates such as Dick or Logue.

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I reckon her service as a councillor at least entitles her to that, especially in the face of Labour's rejection of similarly experienced candidates such as Dick or Logue.

Bad form to reply to one's own post I know but does anyone know what the background is to the CLP selecting Pamela Nash ahead of Cathy Dick?

From the press reports of the resigning chairman's comments, there's a suggestion that there's a bit of a split in the local party.

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arthur & older B.
Im sure i dont need to tell you what their policies are. im sure you know them all well and dont agree so why waste my time?
its quite clear you dont have time for snp like i dont have time for labour.
Also i could give you plenty of things labour have done that are just as bad as the things snp have done so get off your high horse ffs.
but again why bother.
feel free to continue giving labour your vote and let them treat you like muppets.

Your earlier remarks were very specific though. They implied Labour would hand more control to Europe. That is probably the case, however you also implied The SNP wouldn't do so, as far as I'm aware they will integrate far more fully than any of the other mainstream parties. I therefore asked you to explain. Will they or won't they?
My vote is undecided, Older B will speak for himself.

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arthur & older B.
Im sure i dont need to tell you what their policies are. im sure you know them all well and dont agree so why waste my time?
its quite clear you dont have time for snp like i dont have time for labour.
Also i could give you plenty of things labour have done that are just as bad as the things snp have done so get off your high horse ffs.
but again why bother.
feel free to continue giving labour your vote and let them treat you like muppets.

Firstly I don't live in Airdrie and I also don't vote Labour. So I can assure you the Labour local government will not be treating me like a muppet. Please don't jump to conclusions regaridng people's politics!
Also you mentioned the UK debt and I merely pointed out that over half of that was to save 2 Scottish banks, which you conveniently didn't mention in your reply. Please confirm what the SNP could/ would have done to save these banks, and don't forget it was Alex Salmond who said we could have a banking system like Iceland- great idea in hindsight eh?
Also you won't bother going into any policies as basically you don't know any. You have watched Braveheart and therefore think all the English are baddies and we are the goodies, and that's generally what people like you base their opinions on.
Good day to you, and away and have another finger of Shortbread and get the Jimmy Shand CD on!

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arthur & older B.
Im sure i dont need to tell you what their policies are. im sure you know them all well and dont agree so why waste my time?
its quite clear you dont have time for snp like i dont have time for labour.
Also i could give you plenty of things labour have done that are just as bad as the things snp have done so get off your high horse ffs.
but again why bother.
feel free to continue giving labour your vote and let them treat you like muppets.

Firstly I don't live in Airdrie and I also don't vote Labour. So I can assure you the Labour local government will not be treating me like a muppet. Please don't jump to conclusions regaridng people's politics!
Also you mentioned the UK debt and I merely pointed out that over half of that was to save 2 Scottish banks, which you conveniently didn't mention in your reply. Please confirm what the SNP could/ would have done to save these banks, and don't forget it was Alex Salmond who said we could have a banking system like Iceland- great idea in hindsight eh?
Also you won't bother going into any policies as basically you don't know any. You have watched Braveheart and therefore think all the English are baddies and we are the goodies, and that's generally what people like you base their opinions on.
Good day to you, and away and have another finger of Shortbread and get the Jimmy Shand CD on!

Pish. Change the record, eh?

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Pish. Change the record, eh?

Would you prefer The Alexander Brothers?

I know they have now dropped the independence in Europe slogan which was the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever heard. They seemed to be making the same arguments for closer integration with Europe as the pro Unionists did when the English and Scottish parliament swhere united two hundred years ago. I presume the still think the same however not publicising it.

The thing is around 50% of the population do not vote. Why? Because there is no party that represents their views. As a Protestant I refuse to vote for any party that is in the pocket of a paedo ring so that rules out Labour and the SNP.

I'll be voting SNP for reasons too lengthy and boring for a football forum. I acknowledge that the arguments against independence are substantial and not without merit. I don't hate the other parties. I don't hate the English. (I do however hate the repugnant synical reprehensible Daily Record....That felt good!). I don't think that people who vote for other parties are collectively stupid, moronic etc etc... Contentious stuff I know.

I do of course believe that Braveheart was a fully accurate depiction and historically flawless description of the life and times of William Wallace.

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The thing is around 50% of the population do not vote. Why? Because there is no party that represents their views.

Or dozens of other reasons ranging from "it's raining on poll day" to "they can't be bothered to vote and justify it through lazy cynicism".

My money is on the latter.

or the fact that politics is a middle classed pastime

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or the fact that politics is a middle classed pastime

Absolutely. Let's re-enfranchise the working classes. Cheryl Cole for prime minister!

Edited to say .... Cheryl Cole. What am I thinking of? It has to be Jordan.



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This has been an entertaining thread.

Labour have dug themselves out a whole by finding a local female candidate.
They were being offered a short list of London women to choose from.
Ms Nash probably had a gun pointed at her head to solve the problem.

I hope the SNPs Sophia Coyle wins.
The more SNP folk who win the better deal we will get from Westminster, who are desperate to cut spending in Scotland to the bone. despite the fact our tax take is a lot higher than the spending we get.
Give Scots Parly all the tax and spend powers and then no-one can argue the toss about it being unfair.
What we raise in tax in Scotland we spend in Scotland.
The Oil taxes are ours - by the way.

More important than that is that we must have a Referendum on Independence ASAP. The people must decide without the policies, likes and dislikes of individual parties getting in the way. Large percentage of Labour voters like the idea of Independence, and a survey said even 10% of Tories like the idea.

An old Foreman of mine used to have a saying "If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got" So if you are happy to see the continuing decline in Airdrie by all means continue to vote Labour, it aint going to change. Their policies of decanting @#$%& into better areas does not work, it only causes a deterioration in that area. Don't start me on immigration!!
Right now I am struggling to find anything positive in politicians in general, the expenses scandal and the latest cash for lobbying just makes them all look like greedy scumbags seeking nothing but to improve their own standard of living.

Older B. Now who is jumping to conclusions abotu other peoples politics.
You keep ging on about the banks.
Who is to say if we were governed by ourselves that the bank state woudl have been as bad?
i dont know myself but you seem to be pretty sure what ever SNP woudl have done woudl have failed. You seem to know a lot about banking so why shoudl i even bother.
and trust me i know plenty about politics, i just dont go on like some on a msg board all the time, like someone said, change the record.
all high and mighty on here!!
so keep your narrow minded views about me watching braveheart adn think what you want.

and for the record i base my opinions on the english politicans actualy being @#$%& and the amount of shady things that go on with that mob down there.

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Older B. Now who is jumping to conclusions abotu other peoples politics.
You keep ging on about the banks.
Who is to say if we were governed by ourselves that the bank state woudl have been as bad?
i dont know myself but you seem to be pretty sure what ever SNP woudl have done woudl have failed. You seem to know a lot about banking so why shoudl i even bother.
and trust me i know plenty about politics, i just dont go on like some on a msg board all the time, like someone said, change the record.
all high and mighty on here!!
so keep your narrow minded views about me watching braveheart adn think what you want.

and for the record i base my opinions on the english politicans actualy being @#$%& and the amount of shady things that go on with that mob down there.

The Prime Minister and Chancellor are from........


answers on a saltire please to:

Crazy Jock McMads Nationalist Funhouse
Hoots Mon Hoose
26 Glebe Street
Mucklefuckysucky
Scotland

Shady things that go on in England? Apart from the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, here is a list of the Scottish politicians who were ordered to repay expenses, along with how much they were ordered to repay:

Speaker of the House Michael Martin (£lots and lots and lots)
Airdrie and Shotts MP Dr. John Reid (£2731)
Jim Murphy (£577)
Danny Alexander (£290)
Russell Brown (£1146)
Malcolm Bruce (£622)
David Cairns (£2782)
Menzies Campbell (£1490)
Katy Clark (£782)
Alistair Carmichael (£480)
Michael Connarty (£5181)
Ian Davidson (£1241)
Nigel Griffiths (£4005)
Jim Hood (£5413)
Stewart Hosie (£379)
Eric Joyce (£8602)
Angus MacNeil (£133)
Jim McGovern (£266)
Rosemary McKenna (£3008)
Sandra Osborne (£2612)
William Rennie (£2573)
John Robertson (£2975)
Mohammed Sarwar (£245)
Jim Sheridan (£400)
John Thurso (£548)
Peter Wishart (£1632).

So, it looks like it's not just the English who can be accused of troughing. I think Scotland has more than its share of greedy politicians who are willing to take taxpayer money over and above what they are legally entitled to. And that's just expenses; there's also all of the nepotism and patronage associated with politics north of the border as well.

I'm afraid, Weasel, that it's more than just an English problem.


Sources: The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Scotsman.



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Three pages of posts and not one jibe at the original fat cat Karen, even though she is an MSP.