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The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Mr Jingles (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 13:37

Disgusting if you ask me, its no wonder we are penny pinching if we have to pay a salary like such. I wonder what beetroot face pays himself then??!! Figures are out tomorrow, lets see how much has been siphoned out this year compared to last years £16m profit

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Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Alkaponewolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:21

Jamie O'Hara earns £1.9M per year
Doyle £1.6M, Hunt £1.3M, Henry £1.1M and a whole list of others on more for NO responsibility...

If they don't perfrom individually whats the worst that happens...'they don't get picked'! But still pick their money up for the term of their contracts...

If Jez doesn't perform the company goes bust or into the red!

All this hatred towards Moxey astounds me as he's the only one that has consistantly performed under two ownerships, as we've always been in profit under him!

Yes, I do agree now that the way we went about searching a new manager was a PR disaster, however time to let it go and see the full picture.

I also agree that Jez has one of those faces you want to slap! But this doesn't mean he's doing a bad job....from what I hear, he's the first in of a morning and last out of an evening so he does the hours.

Also, he negotiated all of our sponsors from Chaucer and Admiral etc, which equated to more than 3 times when Richards was in charge...

Yes, Richards is a legend and a footballing man through and through but lets not forget the bo11uck he dropped with Robbie Keane's ZERO signing on fee! We've earned good money through the sales of Joleon Lescott and negotiated well getting rid of wasteful signings such as Surman, Halford, Shackell and load of others.

So, in a nutshell give Moxey some respect....people are very quick to remember the 1 bad thing he does and neglect the 20 good things!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: SteWolves (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:42

Good post alcapone. Just wish he and morgan wouldn't come out with promises they can't keep.

Morgan saying we're going to finish mid table with 1 signing and moxey saying we need an established manager shows they're completely deluded from reality

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: ewan roberts dentist (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:44

spot on Alkapone, i honestly don't know why people hate him so much!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: SteWolves (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 15:52

Quote:
Alkaponewolf
Jamie O'Hara earns £1.9M per year
Doyle £1.6M, Hunt £1.3M, Henry £1.1M and a whole list of others on more for NO responsibility...

If they don't perfrom individually whats the worst that happens...'they don't get picked'! But still pick their money up for the term of their contracts...

If Jez doesn't perform the company goes bust or into the red!

All this hatred towards Moxey astounds me as he's the only one that has consistantly performed under two ownerships, as we've always been in profit under him!

Yes, I do agree now that the way we went about searching a new manager was a PR disaster, however time to let it go and see the full picture.

I also agree that Jez has one of those faces you want to slap! But this doesn't mean he's doing a bad job....from what I hear, he's the first in of a morning and last out of an evening so he does the hours.

Also, he negotiated all of our sponsors from Chaucer and Admiral etc, which equated to more than 3 times when Richards was in charge...

Yes, Richards is a legend and a footballing man through and through but lets not forget the bo11uck he dropped with Robbie Keane's ZERO signing on fee! We've earned good money through the sales of Joleon Lescott and negotiated well getting rid of wasteful signings such as Surman, Halford, Shackell and load of others.

So, in a nutshell give Moxey some respect....people are very quick to remember the 1 bad thing he does and neglect the 20 good things!

Good post al. Just wish him and morgan would stop making promises they can't keep. Morgan saying we'd finish mid table with one signing and moxey saying we will only employ an established manager is completely deluded.

If morgan and moxey said at the start of the season that we were going to have to have another relegation battle this season and all the supporters help then I think we would have had a bit more respect for them. As they would have been completely honest.

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Stourport Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 16:07

Al, top players have a short career. Their pay results from market forces, which we may or may not agree with but we know that in general Wolves pays below the going rate for players.

In 12 years at the club nobody appears to have tried to lure Jez Moxey away from Wolves. If he was that good why wouldnt other clubs be queueing up for his services and thus establish a market rate for his services? Stoke still celebrate the day he left and have gone on to much bigger and better things without his "help".

I absolutely believe that Jez Moxey is holding this club back and in general I think he does more harm than good. I'm no anti-capitalist socialist type. If our club had a top notch football CEO who genuinely helped our club to overachieve, to stay in the premier league and persuade quality staff to join us then I would be quite happy to see the club paying an equivalent salary. IMO Moxey is just another underachiving salaried fat cat whose pay does not reflect his contribution much like bankers in receipt of undeserved bonuses.

His one dimensional inflexible negotiating tactic of waiting and bluff calling has cost us very dearly over the years IMO in recruiting players and dare I say it managers. He has alienated many fans with petty charges on phone lines, booking fees and the like. I personally havent attended cup ties for a few years now and the main reason is I refuse to pay his booking fee admin charges so I know for a fact it definitely costs the club revenue from me and I surely cant be the only one.

For me JEZ OUT!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Alkaponewolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 16:39

Stour, both mine and your posts are based on our own presumption.

You ask "Why hasn't anyone tried to lure Jez away?"....how do you or I know they haven't?

12 years at the club could be down to loyalty...or as you predict no-one else would have him. One thing's for sure, me nor you have a clue really what goes on behind the scenes.

All I know is the past CEO's i.e. John Richards and Jonathan Hayward were very very poor. One was a footballing man with no business brain and the other a greedy son that wanted to milk his own father for all his worth! Are you stating Jez is no better?

Since Jez joined we are financially more stable, marketed much better within the community, commercial sales and profits are up, merchandise sales are more profitable and more exciting for the consumer, and dare I say it our player assets have a better liquidable value.

Peter Ridsdale any better? Who knows?

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Stourport Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 17:43

Al, I pretty much guarantee our top players will leave if we go down to ply their trade at the highest level, Fletcher, Doyle, Jarvis, Hennessey, O'Hara will all be gone.

Moxey whose pay is no doubt linked to us being in the Premier League will get a massive pay cut (not as massive a cut as it ought to be mind!) and he will stay. No-one will step in and say "hey Jez, Wolves cant afford you any more come and work for us".

The only way Moxey is leaving Molineux is if he is sacked and he gets a pay off. Mark my words!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: WolfyWolfWolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 17:54

so great he was thrown out of stoke city

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: ewan roberts dentist (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 18:06

he wan't thrown out of stoke he was asked to get stoke into a position where they'd be a good club for someone to buy & he did just that!

i would assume thats why SJH brought him to the molineux but with the club in such a mess it took alot longer with us.

both SJH & morgan are both very succesful business men so do you think they'd employ such a waste of space on a good salary if he wasn't doing good for the club? i think not!

yes some of the things he's done do rub the fans up the wrong way but it helps the club out so, so be it!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: wolverina (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 18:10

Seems cheap to what some CEOs get. I've no problem with his wages - he's behaved like an idiot all week but Morgan was worse - and he must be doing something right because the bank balance is OK.

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Alkaponewolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 18:26

Me and you agreeing all the time ERD....what has the world come to! (Sm14)

Wolves were estimated at losing £55k per week under JR and JH, and as ERD suggested Jez put a stop to that almost immediately.

'Thrown out of Stoke' don't think so, as there was a similar pattern going on there £50k per losing and Jez again within 6 months reduced that deficit to less than £10k...

The only reason the fans wanted him out there, are for the same reason most want him out here....he WILL NOT EXPOSE this football club financially!
Of course I would love to see the likes of Keano, Wayne Bridge, Zamora, Scotty Parker down here....although I wouldn't at ANY cost!

Look at West Ham, Leeds, Sheff Wed, Charlton etc etc and lets not forget Man City were well and truly in the poo before the Asians rolled into town...

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: ernesto hunt (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:08

Once again, and for the n'th time, our predicament is not about how much Moxey is paid but about how much Moxey is willing to pay!

Our position is primarily dictated by the wages we pay to players - not how much we pay in transer fee's but how much we pay in wages.

We are the second lowest payers - and all the gatherable evidence seems to say - pay the lowest and you will finish bottom!

This evidence - get it from google by doing a search for wages paid in the Prem and compare with the teams relegated and the coincidence is over 87% - condems us to repeating it season after season, no matter who we have as a manager, unless Moxey realises it (he actually does and thats why he supported MM to the end).

The ramifications for Morgan, though are unacceptable - the end of his dream (unless he doubles the timescale) of creating a club run at an unsubsidised profit!

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: . (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:13

Agree entirely with EH ....which is a first grinning smiley

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Arthur Tannen (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:19

Quote:
Alkaponewolf
Yes, Richards is a legend and a footballing man through and through but lets not forget the bo11uck he dropped with Robbie Keane's ZERO signing on fee! We've earned good money through the sales of Joleon Lescott and negotiated well getting rid of wasteful signings such as Surman, Halford, Shackell and load of others.

He didn't drop a b#llock, he was offered two deals - £6m from Coventry with no sell clause and £5.5m by Villa and 10% of any profit. If he chose the Villa deal then was sold to Inter for £12m we would have got £650k from the sell on clause, £6.15m in total. So we missed out on £150k, he hardly dropped a b@llock.

The way people go on you would think he'd simply forgot to put the sell on clause in but Villa offered one so he knew about it. Anyway if Coventry didn't want to put one in there wasn't much he could do, I think he chose the best deal at the time.

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: . (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:22

and of course Keane was a boyhood coventry fan so what can you do ...

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Arthur Tannen (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:36

haha angry, true he had a coventry bogbrush throughout his childhood.

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: ernesto hunt (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:51

Don't think so Angry - it's just in your nature not to appear to agree with anyone!

Don't tell me it's any different - I see a lot like you in the Institution where I've been confined these last 3 months.

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: Pattingham Wolf (IP Logged)
Date: 27 February, 2012 21:54

Blimey it's a love-in (Sm93)(Sm93)

 
Re: The Pie Man Earns £1.1m Per Year.
Posted by: ewan roberts dentist (IP Logged)
Date: 28 February, 2012 08:34

whats this board coming to? me agreeing with alkapone angry agreeing with ernesto oh how i long for the old days!!

(Sm133)

but back on topic i think moxey is doing a good job as alkapone says we're miles away from being like leeds pompey etc if we do go down it would be the players themselves wanting to move on more than a case of the club needing to sell them.we're very well run off the field i agree the investment in the stadium/team was the wrong way round but the club is in a very strong position it wouldn't be a firsale of players they'd be sold on wolves terms not just accepting what was offered to get them off the wage bill

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